Wolverine (no claws) vs Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) [MA contest]

Started by TricksterPriest3 pages
TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by carnage52
cant name pople better at ma?let me list

shiva
karate kid
batman
prometheus
wolverine
batgirl
stick
elektra
daredevil

and many more.

Shiva=In contention for best MA on earth (not counting KK)
Karate Kid=Best MA of all time.
Batman=Better than Cap, but how much is up for debate.
Prometheus=Not a martial artist. His helmet makes him better than anyone here save KK, but it's technically a cheat, not pure skill.
Wolverine=not debating this one........
Batgirl=Assuming you mean Cassie, yes. Her body-reading trick is an incredible advantage.
Stick=Dunno.
Elektra=I hear she's good, but her TP and mysticism makes me question her overall skill.
Daredevil=Highly skilled, but not really better than Cap IMO. His powers are also a factor.

socool8520 Life's a garden, Dig it
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Shiva=In contention for best MA on earth (not counting KK)
Karate Kid=Best MA of all time.
Batman=Better than Cap, but how much is up for debate.
Prometheus=Not a martial artist. His helmet makes him better than anyone here save KK, but it's technically a cheat, not pure skill.
Wolverine=not debating this one........
Batgirl=Assuming you mean Cassie, yes. Her body-reading trick is an incredible advantage.
Stick=Dunno.
Elektra=I hear she's good, but her TP and mysticism makes me question her overall skill.
Daredevil=Highly skilled, but not really better than Cap IMO. His powers are also a factor.

I may be wrong but didn't Cass fight Shiva and win? or if not to a stalemate?
I didn't think Batman was better than Cap as an MA but his skills do keep going up.
How many styles does DD know anyways? I thought it was only like three but of course he was highly skilled in those three.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by socool8520
Really cuz I tried to argue the point that he could dodge bullets on another forum and even used some of Jinzin's scans (didn't take credit for them I swear) and the general consensus there was that he was only dodge the shooters aim not the bullets due to the fact that it was not specifically shown. Since I just started reading comics again, i just figured they were more informed than I was.
You tell those people that that is absolute NONSENSE. Wolverine on panel has been stated has dodging bullets, by his own estimation as well as impartial narrative boxes. He's shown reacting to bullets during bullet time panels. Daredevil has used his radar sense to determine that Wolverine was dodging multiple bullets, Spiderman used his SS to determine that Wolverine was dodging lasers.

People who argue that Wolverine's only dodging the aim of attackers are either A) Trying to discredit Wolverine from something that EVERY street level hero can do even on the lowest end from Robin to Night Thrasher or B) Trying to rationalize how Logan keeps from being hit by bullets since him literally dodging them would be illogical... Which is dumb since logic goes out the window the moment you start subjecting yourself to a fictionalize media like comics.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Due to a retcon/rewrite, Logan's healing factor is back to normal levels. He can die again.
that's already been ignored in pretty much every Wolverine related story since the supposed retcon. 😕

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by jinzin
You tell those people that that is absolute NONSENSE.
yeah, cuz the great Jinzin said so...

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, cuz the great Jinzin said so...
One wonders what someone hopes to accomplish by selectively quote someone, removing where they justify their opinion, then accusing them of having no real justification of their opinion. Besides of course looking rather stupid.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by socool8520
I think it would be Cassandra wouldn't it? Can't she like dodge bullets and read your moves seven in advance. I've been told that Wolverine is only an aim dodger. Their MA skills seem pretty even but I don't think Wolverine is fast enough. The only way I see Wolvie weinning is if he outlatsts her do to his HF.
"Aim dodger" as opposed to "bullet dodger." I like the sound of that. The way this fight is set up, I'd take Cassandra for the slight majority.

Batgirl 6/10.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
One wonders what someone hopes to accomplish by selectively quote someone, removing where they justify their opinion, then accusing them of having no real justification of their opinion. Besides of course looking rather stupid.
Lol... well when it concerns a question like this:

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, cuz the great Jinzin said so...

about Wolverine... a simple "yes" would have sufficed. 😄

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by carnage52
cant name pople better at ma?let me list

shiva
karate kid
batman
prometheus
wolverine
batgirl
stick
elektra
daredevil

and many more.

The only person on that list that is better then wolverine is kk and thats it.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
One wonders what someone hopes to accomplish by selectively quote someone, removing where they justify their opinion, then accusing them of having no real justification of their opinion. Besides of course looking rather stupid.
pwn-muddaf*ckin-age.