Karate Kid (Val) vs World War Hulk

Originally posted by spetznaz
Please note that the thread said Val at his peak.

Once again, he is a Deus ex machina type character, like Squirrel girl and miracle man.

Also, defeating (actualling pwning) pre-Crisis Kryptonians and daxamites puts you way above any iteration of the Hulk.

WW Hulk imo at the end of the story would be too much for KK here. Since KK is at his best then WW Hulk is also at his best. His mere foot steps were causing collateral damage and he would instantly heal from any damage sustained by KK.

Imagine how powerful one of his punches would be.

WW Hulk for the easy win imo.

Quan..............are you really claiming WWH>PC Superboy? 🤨

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Quan..............are you really claiming WWH>PC Superboy? 🤨

imp pc kk would wreck ww hulk

Originally posted by quanchi112
This particular thread is about WW Hulk vs. KK.

"Imo WW Hulk dominates and this my fried is spite imo."

In order for this to be true, WWH must be more powerful than PC Superboy. Because KK has stalemated and beaten PC Superboy.

So once again, are you claiming WWH is more powerful than PC Superboy? 😐

Unless one has Long range powers to destroy like the entire planet that KK is standing on, then He is pretty much unbeatable in hand to hand unless one is say, Pre Crisis Validus.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Imagine how powerful one of his punches would be.

This reminds me of just before the First Gulf War when people would say how the Iraqi Republican Guard was an 'elite fighting force' that would annihilate the Allied Forces in the deserts of Iraq.

It also reminds me of just before the Afghanistan war, when the same 'experts' waxed poetic of how the Afghani Taliban were an unbeatable force, and how the Mujahadeen had wrecked havoc on the Soviets during the 1980s, the British Empire way before them during older days, and even some of the forces of Alexander the Great.

Yet, all the Republican guard in the early 90s, and the Taliban in 2001/02, did not even manage to do anything significant.

The moral of the story is this: it is easy to imagine how powerful your arsenal is, however if you do NOT get a chance to use it, then it is all for naught.

WWHulk could very easily kill Val. Even Joe Fixit could do it very well (goodness, give Jubilee a bread knife and she can kill Karate Kid).

The only problem is getting the opportunity to do so.

Someone who pwns pre-Crisis Daxamites and Kryptonians does not just stand there to 'imagine how powerful punches are.'

Good grief. Karate Kid has nothing on WWH.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Good grief. Karate Kid has nothing on WWH.

um, Karate kid has beaten precrisis superboy and monel. you know, precrisis superboy the one who could move so fast that he could tavel billions of universes just playing with supergirl in agame of tag. the one who could move entire galaxies worth of planets. Please stop now. WWh couldn't even stop the juggernaut.

I suppose he can tap into the Speed Farce too right? Maybe even the Source?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I suppose he can tap into the Speed Farce too right? Maybe even the Source?

KK is good for a human. He ain't beating WWH. The fact that WWH couldn't stop Juggernaut doesn't support your arguement one bit.

I prefer it when my sentences make sense. But to each their own.

ToMAYto, ToMAHto. Enjoy the difference.

Some feats Karate Kid has done, Pre-Crisis/Pre-Zero Hour:

- Spar with PC Superboy and even placing him in a armlock that is designed for metas.
- Stop a mega Quake with his foot alone.
- Read others movements like Batgirl/Midnighter.
- Dodged Emerald Empresses attack by hearing her heart beat.
- Spar with M-Onel, while M-Onel was using SUPER-SPEED.
- Kicked M-Onel out of the atmosphere with one kick.
- Made a near invulnerable opponent cough up blood.
- Detect weaknesses in objects. Which is how he can break indestructible metals.
- Took on the Fatal Five by himself for a short time.

So, yeah, Val is capable of taking down the Hulk.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
KK is good for a human. He ain't beating WWH. The fact that WWH couldn't stop Juggernaut doesn't support your arguement one bit.

Wow...

Do people just completely ignore the feats the characters have on-panel when forming an opinion?

I guess the answer is an obvious yes.

Do people completely ignore what WWH did on panel?

And the obvious answer is?

Skrullposter Black Bolt. Iron Man. PIStrange. Sentry. Whoopdeefrickendoo. Craptacular wankfest... still not enough.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Do people completely ignore what WWH did on panel?

And the obvious answer is?

WWH was a beast, and no one will argue that.

However, YOU are ignoring what KK has done on panel.

You talk of WWH creating earth quakes with every step he takes, yet ignore KK getting rid of a very large earthquake with a mere stomp of his foot.

You talk about WWH having awesome power in his punches, yet ignore the fact that KK was not even being touched by pre-Crisis Daxamites and Kryptonians (who not only had more power than WWH, but were also exceedingly fast).

You ask how KK could hurt someone like the Hulk, thus ignoring how he would destroy things that were supposed to be invulnerable.

Someone brings up a point that Batman stood toe to toe with KK, yet ignores the story behind that encounter (and more importantly, ignores that the original poster stated KK at his best).

You accuse others of ignoring on-panel feats, when the fact is that it is YOU who is just looking at WWH and totally ignoring what KK has done on panel.

Pot-kettle-black.

World War Hulk pwns KK in minutes. KK's physical attacks wouldn't do jack to WWH.

Whether or not WWH is on the physical strength level of Kryptonians is very debatable, but I havent seen any that crack the continent with footsteps. Its a well known fact that WWH is capable as becoming even stronger. Dynamic HF+Dynamic Strength =Kid loses eventually.

He just doesn't have the level of durabilty and damage soaking necessary to stand here.