Devil, Devil Jin and Jinpachi VS Pyron

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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Pyron's presence affected the entire planet, destroyed an entire civilization, and heated the planet up to high temperatures. All with his presence.

He only heated up the planet when he grew to the size of a star. If we are using that form than he easily wins of course. I'm well aware that Pyron has more of a presence than Jinpaichi. I was simply responding to your claim about his only feat was when he crushed a rock.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx

As far as being a threat to the human race...So? ANY of the Devils could be a threat to the human race

They all are which is why it's a Big Deal, they are an extinction level threat.

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hell, HEIHACHI could if he wanted to.

Not under his own power and not without Mishima Zaibastu.

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2. Which we never actually saw. That "feat" happened off screen, and we have no idea how he did it, and it is likely hyperbole.

Pyron by flying into the Atlantic Ocean destroyed an entire species of creatures, the only named one(Rikuo) is a B+ ranked Darkstalker. This was after entering mortal form btw.

How is it Hyper Bole ? Just because we don't see it doesn't mean anything? Using that logic because we never canonically see Pyron jumping into the atlantic that feat is hyperbole 😬

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx

3. By yelling? More like releasing his power...

He absorbed Jinpachi's Devil Gene in that vid.

The forest point wasn't covered in this vid. Devils can get stronger by adsorbing each others power and even without that they are still powerful. I just wanted to illustrate that.

Just to show you how powerful Devils TK is. Heihachi who has remained conscious after being slammed through stone walls and being blasted from a nuke.You can hear him screaming at 2:47 of this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n79SQhgYsZI

Was K.O.ed from Devils TK when he wasn't even at full power:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVcSxE12LSE

Originally posted by Classic NES
He only heated up the planet when he grew to the size of a star. If we are using that form than he easily wins of course. I'm well aware that Pyron has more of a presence than Jinpaichi. I was simply responding to your claim about his only feat was when he crushed a rock.

They all are which is why it's a Big Deal, they are an extinction level threat.

Not under his own power and not without Mishima Zaibastu.

How is it Hyper Bole ? Just because we don't see it doesn't mean anything? Using that logic because we never canonically see Pyron jumping into the atlantic that feat is hyperbole 😬

The forest point wasn't covered in this vid. Devils can get stronger by adsorbing each others power and even without that they are still powerful. I just wanted to illustrate that.

1. True. But Jinpachi only changed landscapes, Pyron's arrival killed a race of Darkstalker level creatures.

2. Which is not a big deal at all in the Darkstalker verse. Humans are weak, a single A rank could easily wipe out every human, and mortal Pyron is A ranked.

3. True. But being a threat to Tekken's existence is no big feat for a Darkstalker.

4. What Pyron did is far less ambiguous and you know it. We have no idea whatsoever about the details of what Kazuya did.

5. I know it wasn't. I know they can absorb eachothers power, but I doubt any of the three will willingly go along with letting one of them get the other's powers...

and as for your second post, the Honmaru explosion was in no way a "nuke".

And I know how powerful Devil's TK is. But Hachi is by no means even a near equal to Pyron.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. True. But Jinpachi only changed landscapes, Pyron's arrival killed a race of Darkstalker level creatures.

I wasn't arguing whether it was greater, though. I agree'd that the presence of Pyrons power did a whole lot more damage. I commented on the fact that Jinpaichi was being underrated. It's pretty obvious that Pyron>>> Jinpaichi. I wasn't arguing that, but having all the devils together at the same time against Pyron holding back isn't a bad fight IMO.

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Which is not a big deal at all in the Darkstalker verse. Humans are weak, a single A rank could easily wipe out every human, and mortal Pyron is A ranked.

True. But being a threat to Tekken's existence is no big feat for a Darkstalker.

Humans as a collective rivals the lord of Makai in Darkstalkers 😬

Individually humans are classed as C class Makai:

5) Class C
The slave class of Makai. They are the livestock and servants for the higher classes. Without them, the economy of Makai wouldn't hold. Humans who wander into Makai by accident are classified in this class. There are roughly 120
million.

That's not true, there really isn't a Darkstalker that can take out all of humanity from the Darkstalker universe. Unless you referring to all of humanity from the Tekken universe then I would agree. But, so can each Devil. . .So, it's not as bad as you think.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
What Pyron did is far less ambiguous and you know it. We have no idea whatsoever about the details of what Kazuya did.

I know which is why we cannot say how Kazuya did it, but he still did it. It's most likely not Hyper-Bole to say that he did it nonetheless, the how is up in the air for now.

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I know it wasn't. I know they can absorb eachothers power, but I doubt any of the three will willingly go along with letting one of them get the other's powers...

Well, if they are in character then you would be correct.

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and as for your second post, the Honmaru explosion was in no way a "nuke".

It destroyed Honmaru completely so it could be a low yield nuke.

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And I know how powerful Devil's TK is. But Hachi is by no means even a near equal to Pyron.

Not saying it is. 🙂

See, somebody thinks the Devils can win, he's not a fanboi.