Off Topic Circle Jerk

Hahaha I'm loving this shit.

You guys still have to prove "Dark Fury" isn't cannon, BTW.

RJ gave lots of support for his claim that it was, so far this has been answered by opinion under the guise of "logic".

Originally posted by Nightstick
Indy. Terry may be the better "martial artist"(though only from the classical perspective, from a modern mma perspective its argueable), but that has never stopped Indy in the past. Then we have issues of Indy's durability which is well frankly super human. Takes a tank wrecking dive over a cliff, submerges with a submarine, survives and atomic blast in a fridge etc. Terry has to dig down after having a board broke with his head. Chances are Terry poses, grunts, does katas etc. Just to have Indy punch him in the face and knock his arse out. If it goes longer then that Terry can punch Indy 'til his hands are numb and Indy will get back up. Once Terry is spent. Indy knocks his arse out or lets him collapse on his own.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Here's a suggestion to prevent problems between different mediums of the same character. I recommend we add a "no-nonsense" rule to prevent contradictions in character ability. This will help with problems in "canon" and feat continuity across different mediums as well, such as comics, cartoons, CGI, etc.

Here's the reasoning with "cartoon" and "live-action" as examples: If there are contradictions between the feats seen in the live-action films or their cartoon adaptations, the medium chosen to be used in a debate will match the opposing side's medium, i.e. if the opposing side is also a cartoon, the cartoon feats will take precedence: if the opposing side is live-action then the medium chosen will be live-action.

This will make things such as Van Helsing: The London Assignment and Dark Fury easier to use or not use in debates. Established "canon" is not very common outside of major names like Star Trek and Star Wars. Established canon feats are further, still.

This is just a suggestion. Another suggestion would be having a "default" rule like that unless the thread starter states they want to cross-medium character versions.

What you're suggesting will only cause more confusion.

Originally posted by Blinky
Hahaha I'm loving this shit.

You guys still have to prove "Dark Fury" isn't cannon, BTW.

RJ gave lots of support for his claim that it was, so far this has been answered by opinion under the guise of "logic".

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Or the thread starter can simply specify in the OP, you know, adhere to MVF rule # 7. ✅ Details, specific details.

What you're suggesting will only cause more confusion.

No, it will preven confusion. If there's a catch-all rule like that, then things like the CGI movie of Clone Wars wouldn't be allowed if someone forgot to mention it in the OP. To expect every last detail to be covered is rediculous.

To expect peopole to use their common sense is also rediculous.

Originally posted by Blinky
Hahaha I'm loving this shit.

You guys still have to prove "Dark Fury" isn't cannon, BTW.

RJ gave lots of support for his claim that it was, so far this has been answered by opinion under the guise of "logic".

It's not rediculous at all. Prove that something like "canonicity" even exists for the films. On top of that, if you consider his Dark Fury feats "canon", why didn't he use them at any point in both films such as his "flash" speed? 😐

By your reasoning, its PIS and the feats have to be thrown out. I see that logic in that and agree, somewhat.

Originally posted by dadudemon
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No, it will preven confusion. If there's a catch-all rule like that, then things like the CGI movie of Clone Wars wouldn't be allowed if someone forgot to mention it in the OP. To expect every last detail to be covered is rediculous.

To expect peopole to use their common sense is also rediculous.

No need for this bullshit rule you are proposing if some people would just pay attention when making a thread. If someone cannot start a thread properly, they shouldn't be starting threads, simple as that.

Due to quite a few people PMing me with questions about canon, if have hereby instated the MVF Golden Rule, the rule above all rules.

See the first page of the MVF Rules thread if you are curious.

Lemmee guess, wiki? 🙄

Nope.

The shit that is SEEN, with your two eyes, on screen. Period.

If you don't own the movie or have not seen it, then I recommend you watch it and/or provide a video link.

So some posters are saying things happened differently onscreen than they actually happened?

Some people are implying, is what I am saying. It's the whole Matrix argument all over again.

IF IT IS NOT SEEN ON SCREEN, THEN IT DID NOT HAPPEN! Period!

Ah, I see, people didn't like the wiki rule, they bitched to you, so you changed the rules. Nice.

Ummm..........no.

Wiki is A source of info. Not THE ONLY source. When I said Google, Wiki, etc, I was just spouting off examples. The Web has many, many more site of info, methinks.

This is based on logic.

Your character didn't do it on screen, it didn't happen.

This has ALWAYS been the canon rule here, I have just officially cemented it.

Any disdain can be mentioned in the MVF Social. I welcome it so we can try to iron this out.

Originally posted by Impediment
Ummm..........no.

Wiki is [b]A source of info. Not THE ONLY source. When I said Google, Wiki, etc, I was just spouting off examples. The Web has many, many more site of info, methinks.

This is based on logic.

Your character didn't do it on screen, it didn't happen.

This has ALWAYS been the canon rule here, I have just officially cemented it.

Any disdain can be mentioned in the MVF Social. I welcome it so we can try to iron this out. [/B]

If it happened in the movie, on screen, then why wouldn't it?

I'm talking about when a character is elaborated on, like where the link says Sideswipe has fighting skill on par with Prime.

If we are to go with only what is seen onscreen, then the #3 wiki/google rule is useless.

Why would #3 be useless?

While I have yet to rent Transformers 2, if Prime kicked Sideswipe's ass onscreen, what's to elaborate about?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ah, I see, people didn't like the wiki rule, they bitched to you, so you changed the rules. Nice.

I told you this was the Movie Vs Forum and not the Wiki Vs Forum. Movie-feats counter wiki-nonsense.

For the record, I wasn't one of the people who PM'd Imp about it.

Again, people, let me know if you have disdain for this new "Golden Rule".

I, personally, see it as a way to avoid any further shitstorms.

If you can change my mind, then I will, again, amend it.

Still: Movie canon is, in fact, very, very, important here in the MVF.