Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Sooooo, you threw a tantrum and put them on ignore? How is that mastering them?And I lol at your less than pathetic attempt to try and hurl an insult my way, mr. master of assumptions. 😆
So the Moose called it like it is. I figured.
As for putting the stealth pwn's silent masters on ignore, I did so because they are lying hypocrites who spread lies about me in other forums and threads I am not even in.
They are dead to me for hypocrisy of reporting me for doing the exact same thing they did, they can burn for all I care. I have yet to see you act like them so I will continue to talk to you until you prove to be one of those that are dead to me.
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta,
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Originally posted by Supra
As for putting the stealth pwn's silent masters on ignore, I did so because they are lying hypocrites who spread lies about me in other forums and threads I am not even in.They are dead to me for hypocrisy of reporting me for doing the exact same thing they did, they can burn for all I care. I have yet to see you act like them so I will continue to talk to you until you prove to be one of those that are dead to me.
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta,
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Personally speaking, I don't talk about one forums posters in another forum, example, I don't talk to my friends in Spacebattles about what goes on in here. Generally, I follow the self imposed rule of "The Affairs of other boards do not concern us". It keeps messy cross forum invasion things from happening.
However, as for wether or not you talk to them, or even if you talk to me, that's up to you, but it isn't "Gangsta" in the least. That said, I will say this to you right now, if it wasn't for your recent antics parroting Quan of all people, I generally would not have a problem with you at all. I was a little disappointed with the way you handled yourself in the Anime vs threads, where you got heated for no reason other than general disagreement, but you weren't at a level I would say is too disruptive. But here, now, when you cheer lead and egg on Quan? Yes, I have a very big problem with you supporting a known liar, troll and hypocrite, especially now knowing what you ignore Moose and SM for... That simply doesn't make sense to me.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Personally speaking, I don't talk about one forums posters in another forum, example, I don't talk to my friends in Spacebattles about what goes on in here. Generally, I follow the self imposed rule of "The Affairs of other boards do not concern us". It keeps messy cross forum invasion things from happening.However, as for wether or not you talk to them, or even if you talk to me, that's up to you, but it isn't "Gangsta" in the least. That said, I will say this to you right now, if it wasn't for your recent antics parroting Quan of all people, I generally would not have a problem with you at all. I was a little disappointed with the way you handled yourself in the Anime vs threads, where you got heated for no reason other than general disagreement, but you weren't at a level I would say is too disruptive. But here, now, when you cheer lead and egg on Quan? Yes, I have a very big problem with you supporting a known liar, troll and hypocrite, especially now knowing what you ignore Moose and SM for... That simply doesn't make sense to me.
I acted that way because those people trash me in threads I am not even in. Do I need to show you proof or do you want to take my word for it. After a mod had already spoken and said enough bashing, more bashing ensued, and I can show it to you in proof here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14595267#post14595267
Galan, Stealth Epidual follow me around like little babies and chose to attack me for no reason when I have never done anything to them at all, however Epidural has trashed my wife and mother repeatedly with no warning no infraction's no nothing. Which I don't care at the end of the day you have to own up for your own actions, I never trash people's family's kids, and such.
Silent is the king troll of never making a thread and trying to turn everyone against each other, I been here longer then him and I know exactly who he is. I refuse to speak to him. He tries and tries to get me to speak to him like a needy child but he is dead to me. I wouldn't give him the time of day if he was the last person on the forum. He produces nothing but disagreement and tries to stir shit up constantly as does stealth, and on top of it stealth is the biggest hypocrite in the forum so I refuse to speak to him ever again. So yes I stuck my fingers in my ears because I cannot stand the site of him.
Lying on the internet favoring you favorite character is like a white lie and means nothing in the end of it, but to me a hypocrite is the worst sin there is and I won't associate with those type of people. I despise them and I told him straight to his face I would never speak to him again yet he still tries to converse with me, its like he does not understand the words coming out of my mouth. When I say "I will never speak to you again" that does not register with him, its like telling a child no or stop but they keep doing it..I refuse to associate with people like that.
Stealth runs around finding all your quotes as does silence from different forums and different topics and tries to pile them on top of you. Silent tries to bait me every chance he gets but its the same thing as stealth, they don't understand the word no.
Its never a two way streak here, epidural, silent and stealth can all team up against Quan and me but when Quan and I do it, oh they sure like to cry wolf. Another example of hypocrisy..I hate hypocrites.
Epidural comes in here and trashes quan while he sleeps, trashes my mother and wife to no end, and ya I cried wolf a few times to many on it and got temp banned for reporting it, and it was quan that told me you just got to stick up for yourself, in the end thats all that matters
As for Quan and me, we both have real job's with real educations, we like coming on here and debating things but the people here want to disrupt any sort of camaraderie because they are lonely people and in my point losers in real life. This place could be great again like it was back in 2007 but its been over run with people like stealth's silence for far to long. Quan and me are just here to keep forum activity and try to keep the place interesting.
What people don't realize is that I have been here longer then all of ya'll besides a few of the mods. And that Quan and me used to not get along at all. And we would go at it more then anyone else, they one day we decided to take a step back and realize hey we can all be friends even if we have a difference of opinion.
If you have a problem with who I associate, do as I do, ignore me, and thus you have mastered the art of silence and stealth as I have.
Godspeed
I apologise for this, a power surge struck and it swallowed my reply, so this is a bit late...
Originally posted by Supra
I acted that way because those people trash me in threads I am not even in. Do I need to show you proof or do you want to take my word for it. After a mod had already spoken and said enough bashing, more bashing ensued, and I can show it to you in proof here.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14595267#post14595267
Galan, Stealth Epidual follow me around like little babies and chose to attack me for no reason when I have never done anything to them at all, however Epidural has trashed my wife and mother repeatedly with no warning no infraction's no nothing. Which I don't care at the end of the day you have to own up for your own actions, I never trash people's family's kids, and such.
And yet Quan trashes me and others in threads we aren't involved in. I warned Quan what line not to cross, and he already had his final warning from Ush back in June, so the hypocricy is already in place because you support him in his endeavours. I'm going to ask you right now then, does the hypocriticism of others only disgust you if you are the target?
But you did trash on mine when you supported Quan's trashing. You gave me reason to take offense with no provocation. Just like when you first spoke about me, it was an immediate, and unprovoked flame for no rhyme or reason, the only reason you did it was to support him, and give a big "F U" to everyone else, because hey, it's Quan.
I never bashed or trashed you ever, but here you are, talking to me like I'm a giant turd on your plate, and at the same time, justifying your astounding hatred for others and saying you hate hypocrtitcism, while at the same time committing that very same crime yourself. How can you possibly justify it or make that make sense?
Originally posted by Supra
Silent is the king troll of never making a thread and trying to turn everyone against each other, I been here longer then him and I know exactly who he is. I refuse to speak to him. He tries and tries to get me to speak to him like a needy child but he is dead to me. I wouldn't give him the time of day if he was the last person on the forum. He produces nothing but disagreement and tries to stir shit up constantly as does stealth, and on top of it stealth is the biggest hypocrite in the forum so I refuse to speak to him ever again. So yes I stuck my fingers in my ears because I cannot stand the site of him.
I don't make many threads myself anymore, in fact, many of our posters don't, but that is not a reason to decry them.
Ok, I am going to point something out to you. You may have signed in longer than anyone else here besides Raz himself. Cool, does that make you a better debater? Does that make you a better person? Does that make you just better? No, it does not. What matters is not how long you've been here, or how many posts you have, what matters is the same thing that has always mattered. The quality of your posts. I signed in less than a year after you did, and Quan signed on 2 years after me, my post count is infintismal compared to Quan's, but mine exceeds yours by about 1500. Does that make me the better poster, or person because I've been more active? No it does not. Do you know why I get more props from the majority of the posting population than you do? it's because I have respect for those who respect me and this forum. I respect the points of views of others, even if I disagree with them. I provide evidence for my side, verifiable evidence, every time, and I can admit when I have been wrong. Quan lacks ALL of these features, because to him, every dissident point of view is seen as a pissing contest. You don't go as far as he does, especially back before all this crap started, but even then, you let your temper get the better of you. Nowdays, you get almost nil in terms of actual respect from anyone, almost as low as Quan does, and that is a very low bar.
Originally posted by Supra
Lying on the internet favoring you favorite character is like a white lie and means nothing in the end of it, but to me a hypocrite is the worst sin there is and I won't associate with those type of people. I despise them and I told him straight to his face I would never speak to him again yet he still tries to converse with me, its like he does not understand the words coming out of my mouth. When I say "I will never speak to you again" that does not register with him, its like telling a child no or stop but they keep doing it..I refuse to associate with people like that.
No Supra, there is no such thing as a white lie. Unless it is in jest, a lie is a lie. And that hypocriticism can also be applied to what you are doing. And you've created a double standard. You don't think what Quan has been doing for the past year has it's share of hypocriticism, He applies standards and arbitrary rules upon others, but when the tables have turned, he refuses to comply and meet the same burden, and basically tries to "oily weasel" his way out of the responsibility his own rules generated. You supported him in many of these, but as I said, unless you are the target of the Hyprocritical nonsense, it seems ok with you... because its all a little white lie.
Originally posted by Supra
Stealth runs around finding all your quotes as does silence from different forums and different topics and tries to pile them on top of you. Silent tries to bait me every chance he gets but its the same thing as stealth, they don't understand the word no.
Providing quotes is a key way of providing evidence. We all do it. Even you. This is not a new practice, and it is something you should be well aware of.
Originally posted by Supra
Its never a two way streak here, epidural, silent and stealth can all team up against Quan and me but when Quan and I do it, oh they sure like to cry wolf. Another example of hypocrisy..I hate hypocrites.
So, you call them hypocrites for doing it, then you go ahead and do the same thing you decried them for, thus making your own stance hypocritical.... 😐
Do you see the point I'm making?
Originally posted by Supra
Epidural comes in here and trashes quan while he sleeps, trashes my mother and wife to no end, and ya I cried wolf a few times to many on it and got temp banned for reporting it, and it was quan that told me you just got to stick up for yourself, in the end thats all that matters.
Quan trashes everyones family, asleep or not. Ask Robtard.
There is a GULF of difference between sticking up for yourself, and sledging the opposition and everyone within 5000 miles of them with as many nukes as you can launch.
Originally posted by Supra
As for Quan and me, we both have real job's with real educations, we like coming on here and debating things but the people here want to disrupt any sort of camaraderie because they are lonely people and in my point losers in real life. This place could be great again like it was back in 2007 but its been over run with people like stealth's silence for far to long. Quan and me are just here to keep forum activity and try to keep the place interesting.
And so do I, Quan even sledged me about my work on multiple occasions because I could not conform to his posting times. Yes, more personal attacks because I couldn't fit his sorry ass in my schedule.
I to enjoy a good honest debate, that's why we are all here. But the point is, camaraderie does not equal trash talking like we're cutting pro wrestling promos. And trash talking definitely doesn't equal flaming and sledging either. If that is what you call good camaraderie, then you are both in the wrong forum.
That's the thing, the activity you guys are apparently promoting is all negative. it senters around who can bash the hardest and ciirclejerk their fave characters the best, not who actually wins the debates with logic, critical thinking, sound judgement, or heaven forbid clear and legitimate evidence.
Originally posted by Supra
What people don't realize is that I have been here longer then all of ya'll besides a few of the mods. And that Quan and me used to not get along at all. And we would go at it more then anyone else, they one day we decided to take a step back and realize hey we can all be friends even if we have a difference of opinion.
See above. Quality over quantity or longevity.
And yet everything you've supported about Quan is the exact same thing you've decried your enemies of, and yet you egged him on, you never pulled him up on it, and I was not one of your detractors till you targeted me. Why should I lay down and take it form either one of you?
Originally posted by Supra
If you have a problem with who I associate, do as I do, ignore me, and thus you have mastered the art of silence and stealth as I have.Godspeed
I don't ignore people, that's one of my philosophies. People tend to forget there is another person behind that screen, seeing only the text makes people impersonal, and that leads to much of the negative side effect of internet based communications. It's a trend I avoid because I work in customer care, relations and service as much as I do security, both of which require considerable training and skill in communication methodology many people lack.
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As I said, I wouldn't have a problem with either one of you, had you not resorted to sledging and fallacious arguments in order to try and debate, or even communicate with people. I would prefer it if the two of you hadn't acted deliberately stupid (And yes, you both CHOSE to be stupid, it was not a decision that was made for you) and instead debated like actual people interested in the matchups rather that your own personal pissing contests, and in Quan's case, obsessive compulsion in getting the last word.
See, here's another thing, Quan had admitted to badabing that he is obsessed with getting the last word, and decreed he would make no effort to change. He admitted that he believes trash talking and flaming are normal modes of conversation that is ok for everyday use, and he decreed that he would make no effort to change. You can still tak to a hypocrite and still have a functional conversation, as long as you don't take anything at face value. But try and talk to an @$$hole, and your bound to catch a few sharts in your mouth for the effort. it's impossible to hold a conversation with one that does not immediately degenerate into a raging shitstorm, and always about how awesome he thinks he is, and the constant verbal diarrhea reguarding any who thinks otherwise.
Originally posted by SupraIts never a two way streak here, epidural, silent and stealth can all team up against Quan and me but when Quan and I do it, oh they sure like to cry wolf. Another example of hypocrisy..I hate hypocrites.
But just by doing that, you are being hypocritical. You claim right there in your post Quan and you do it too, so you can't criticize the others for doing it as well. To not be a hypocrite would be to the better man, not resorting to equivalent trolling, but staying on topic with logical debating. But again, as stated, you engage in it too, making you no worse than them, and thus a hypocrite for criticizing them.
It's like criticizing a guy for uncouthly peeing out of his window by peeing out of your own window. You don't look like the better person. You look like just as much of an jackass as the other guy.
I have my own spiritual beliefs, but my dad is Muslim, and when I was young, he told me the worst thing to be in Islam is a hypocrite, a lesson I always ponder on. what I realized is that everyone is in some way a hypocrite, it's the true "original sin" in some ways. IMO, I think that it is because people, on some level, know about their own flaws and are insecure about them, but try to justify it to themselves with their motives and intentions ("the road to hell"😉, and hate seeing other people replicate their flaws because it gives one an "objective view" of their own flaws and forces one to see how bad their flawed actions actually are.
To add, this is the reason your argument holds no credibility, Supra: You want to be the better man, and criticize the people who are trolling. The problem is you seem to have a Sith alliance with Quan, the UNDISPUTED KING of trolling. Again, it's like criticizing people for murder, while at the same time palling around Jack The Ripper. And I know Quan is your friend, but there's a massive difference between befriending someone and supporting their negative behavior.
Dark you can't blame me for other peoples actions. If you have a problem take it up with Quan. I'm not getting involved. You started the name calling withe way before I started with you long time ago this didn't just start last night, you reap want you sow. I never call people names until they start with me. If you want to start over and end the name calling i would be happy to.
Originally posted by Lestov16
To add, this is the reason your argument holds no credibility, Supra: You want to be the better man, and criticize the people who are trolling. The problem is you seem to have a Sith alliance with Quan, the UNDISPUTED KING of trolling. Again, it's like criticizing people for murder, while at the same time palling around Jack The Ripper. And I know Quan is your friend, but there's a [b]massive difference between befriending someone and supporting their negative behavior. [/B]
Quan contributes and makes good threads and debates. Without him this forum would be dead. Show me any thread silent master or stealth master make and contribute on a regular basis..you can't, they come in and in with complete jack assery and try to piss people off with random one liners...taking all your quotes from all the different forums and trying to corner you, as was done here alerady and badabing basically told him in a nice way to stfu.
They are trolls. I refuse to speak with them as they contribute nothing any only seek discord on the internet. Go look at the religious forum sometime. I talked about how a i had a month long spiritual journey to Bali and got railed for it and trolled so i hard, I reported them all and then I was the one who got banned for reporting them...