The Kais !! Gaurdians of the Universe !!

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Originally posted by BradBalboa
Yeh the dub i seen Supreme says to Vegeta " There where 5 Grand Kais at that time ( meaning supreme kais really) each one a thousand times more powerful than the one you called Frieza"

You can see two errors in that dub line already. You already admitted one (grand instead of supreme), so now you can admit the other one. It's a dub error.

King Kai says" Long ago he tried to destroy every Galaxy in the Domidiar ( o clue what that is) sector " !! Bojack as non canon was galaxy destroyer !

Since when does trying to do something = doing it? I can try to punch the earth apart, but that doesn't mean I'll succeed.

Goku does say to Kign Kai " Hey, i though you Kais where supposed to know everythign", Greagory shouts at Goku for questiopnign Kais knowledge " KING KAI KNOWS EVERYTHIGN YOU DOPE" !! So in a sense they do, exept for new things liek wen something happens thats new thye dont know thats, meanign thy can be surprised !

That's called a hyperbole. They obviously don't know everything, King Kai didn't know Goku was a Saiyan, he didn't know about Cell, Kaioshin didn't know about all of the SSJ transformations and the potara fusion, they kept getting surprised by Buu's power, etc. Really, taking obviously false dialogue over actual events is the hallmark of someone who doesn't know how to analyze fiction properly.

Originally posted by BradBalboa
If the fight had continued Buu wud have won, not just by stamina, by everythign he gets more powerful as he fights and evolves to his oponents fighting style. but yeh the supreme kais where powerful, i doubt the east Skai was the weakest the south ( the girl) porbably was, then the kai of the west ( old man) then east, then north, ( since the north side of the universe seems to hold the strongest fighters) then daikio. Who true fought of buu in his strongest from , but that was at the time, buu in his kid buu form is alot more powerful than buff buu
No. Actually, the girl was second only to the South Kaioshin in power, with the old man in 3rd. East Kaioshin by his own words is weakest.

Also, it only states that Daikio weakened Buu due to his benevolent nature, South Kaioshin was never stated to do so, so we must assume buff Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.

it was NORTH kai that he absorbed !! i think..the south kai was the girl that i remeber !!
either way as far a si know Kid buu is the most powerful as he is the true BUU !!

Originally posted by BradBalboa
it was NORTH kai that he absorbed !! i think..the south kai was the girl that i remeber !!
either way as far a si know Kid buu is the most powerful as he is the true BUU !!
No, it was South, North was the old man and West was the girl.

Kid Buu is weaker than Super Buu(Gohan absorbed) and Buff Buu.

Physically he probably isnt as strong as buff Buu but deffinately faster and all round more deadly, and true gohan buu is stronger, but it seems only fat buu and Kid Buu get stronger and stronger as they fight !!]

Kid Buu which i hate calling him is the best Buu !!

anyways this sint about buu 9 altought he is my fav character) this is about the kais !!!!!!!!!

and the dub i watched said the buetiful supreme kai of the south was the first to engage Majin Buu in battle !!

It was also icy where they ofught, which laso made it more southern !!
And in the version i watched ther Big Kai was the Kai of the North, and he was the most powerful said so by Supreme kai himself !!!!

Well the dub can suck my balls.

In canon, the South Kaioshin was the buff one and was the strongest, the West Kaioshin was the girl and was second strongest, North was the old man, and East is the current one.

Daikio is probably the strongest, by Kaioshin's(East) own words his attack on Buu would have destroyed any other creature.

Kid Buu is not the strongest, he is the most unpredictable and dangerous.

As a matter of fact, Super Buu(no one absorbed) is stronger than Kid Buu, Goku by his own admission could never beat him, whereas SSJ3 Goku could fight on near even terms with Kid Buu.

Buff Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu as well.

Super Buu isnt more powerful than True Buu !!

Vegeta says when Super Buu is transforming bakc to kid buu " how can his power be increasing"!!

Its fuked up that goku says even him and vegeta together couldnt fight super buu, they could but unlickely win!!

Kid Buu is 2nd or 3rd strongest Buu!
Plus southern kai was girl, the south galaxys is renound for weak fighters so it makes sense its kai wud be the weakest !!

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Grand Kai by his own words would have to start training again to keep up with Goku or Pikkon.

But that's filler as Toriyama never wrote that. Grand Kai's position is unknown.

A Kai is one poor excuse for a God, Goku should take over as Supreme Kai.

..considering Goku is a Saiyan, and not a Kai !! he cant !!

Goku was offered the role of Gaurdian of the Earth by Kami, but turned it down as he thought being a god was boring haha !!
Plus the supreme Kai is more powerful than Goku until he trains in otherworld !! so i would say Kais are patchetic !!

Originally posted by Astner
But that's filler as Toriyama never wrote that. Grand Kai's position is unknown.
Since that's also the only appearance of Grand Kai...Wtf else are we gonna use to gauge his power? 😐

Originally posted by BradBalboa
Super Buu isnt more powerful than True Buu !!

Vegeta says when Super Buu is transforming bakc to kid buu " how can his power be increasing"!!

Its fuked up that goku says even him and vegeta together couldnt fight super buu, they could but unlickely win!!

Kid Buu is 2nd or 3rd strongest Buu!
Plus southern kai was girl, the south galaxys is renound for weak fighters so it makes sense its kai wud be the weakest !!

1. Yeah he is.

2. In filler maybe.

3. Yet Goku by himself could fight with Kid Buu. 😬

4. No, West Kaioshin was the girl, and she was the second strongest, second to the buff one, the Southern. And the South Galaxy is known for being a gentle, not necessarily weak galaxy.

Goku himself in Super Saiyan 3 !!
Goku never fought Super Buu byhimself in ssj3, not just super buu, only super buu absorbed gohan !!

Kid Buu is more pwoerful than Super Buu

Originally posted by BradBalboa
Vegeta says when Super Buu is transforming bakc to kid buu " how can his power be increasing"!!

Wasn't that because at the time he was in the buff buu state (going into it)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A60nrxkwFaI around 6:15?

then he just goes into the kid form again, which is like someone said earlier of course the most dangerous and unpredictable state O_O

True it was while he was transforming to buff bu, but vegeta didnt say anythign abou him gettign weaker when he went to kid buu,. and supreme kai was terrified when he saw super buu changing back to true buu

Of course, every other Buu at least had some degree of intelligence, rationale, or sanity, Kid Buu had none, he would never stop destroying for any reason.

You actually think Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu?

Read the manga, it's made very clear that Super Buu is stronger

Ok what ever i dont care

Kai talk people, not unstopable pink monsters 😛

I just watched kid buus fights witht eh suprem kais, and the funimation dub says that the girl is west kai and the old man is north with buf being south. the ocean dub says girl south, old man west and buf north which is how i belive it is !! makes alot more sense