Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Exar Kun. He has his amulet blasts and this isn't Sidious at his peak.
No, but in all fairness, the Emperor never becomes blaster- or amulet-proof. Meanwhile, we already have two sources that label Sidious as the most powerful Sith in history, so he is stronger than Kun even here, though I doubt it is by an incredible margin.
God I hate those stupid amulet blasts. Why does everyone assume just cause Kun goes DBZ on an inatimate object (a temple wall) a few red shirt mooks ( the massasi) and a monster that can't use the force directly. That he'd automatically do that to ANYONE he faced in combat? With no draw backs at all, as if he can just sit and spam blasts over and over again? The comic books itself even says that as Kun used them more and more yes, the blast increased in power but he also loses more and more control over them to the point where it threatens to destroy him.
Also the only time we even see something close to what he does in the temple to anther force user is on Aleema, which it only knocks her out and doesn't kill her instantly ( But of course I forgot this wasn't the same attack cause it was a wavy beam not a straight one 🙄
That can be attributed to artist interpretation. And notice he doesn't even attempt this on Ulic, whom was the only real threat to him. Nor to Vodo.
Moreover its a force attack, thus it can be logically blocked with the force or a force shield. Bane unleashes an force wave that puts Kuns little blasts to shame only to have it fully blocked by a not so spectacular force user whom specialized in saber combat, within a split second. Now, if that could be blocked I see no reason why the kamehameha waves can't be blocked either. I really don't see how they'd do anything else other then amuse Sidious slightly.
Originally posted by Dr. Styles
God I hate those stupid amulet blasts. Why does everyone assume just cause Kun goes DBZ on an inatimate object (a temple wall) a few red shirt mooks ( the massasi) and a monster that can't use the force directly. That he'd automatically do that to ANYONE he faced in combat? With no draw backs at all, as if he can just sit and spam blasts over and over again? The comic books itself even says that as Kun used them more and more yes, the blast increased in power but he also loses more and more control over them to the point where it threatens to destroy him.Also the only time we even see something close to what he does in the temple to anther force user is on Aleema, which it only knocks her out and doesn't kill her instantly ( But of course I forgot this wasn't the same attack cause it was a wavy beam not a straight one 🙄
That can be attributed to artist interpretation. And notice he doesn't even attempt this on Ulic, whom was the only real threat to him. Nor to Vodo.
Moreover its a force attack, thus it can be logically blocked with the force or a force shield. Bane unleashes an force wave that puts Kuns little blasts to shame only to have it fully blocked by a not so spectacular force user whom specialized in saber combat, within a split second. Now, if that could be blocked I see no reason why the kamehameha waves can't be blocked either. I really don't see how they'd do anything else other then amuse Sidious slightly.
I don't much about them other than the fact that everyone thinks its the most uber thing to have. As i said, i don't see how Sidious would be below Kun in the force.
Originally posted by Dr. Styles
God I hate those stupid amulet blasts. Why does everyone assume just cause Kun goes DBZ on an inatimate object (a temple wall) a few red shirt mooks ( the massasi) and a monster that can't use the force directly. That he'd automatically do that to ANYONE he faced in combat?
This is not a storybook, Styles. It's a versus fight, where the characters are assumed to be able to use any abilities in their arsenal.
With no draw backs at all, as if he can just sit and spam blasts over and over again?
Yes, as he's already demonstrated prior to knowing jack shit about the dark side and the powers of the ancient Sith.
The comic books itself even says that as Kun used them more and more yes, the blast increased in power but he also loses more and more control over them to the point where it threatens to destroy him.
See above. He has now mastered Sadow's teaching and grown exponentially more powerful.
Also the only time we even see something close to what he does in the temple to anther force user is on Aleema, which it only knocks her out and doesn't kill her instantly ( But of course I forgot this wasn't the same attack cause it was a wavy beam not a straight one 🙄
Originally posted by Advent
The reasons that would actually lead one to believe that it wasn't an amulet blast is pretty simple:1.) The apparent form the blast took looked similar in design as the blast Aleema demonstrated one panel prior, it radically differs from the amulet blasts we see earlier on by that it's doesn't look like Goku's Kamehahahahahaha blast, or whatever (by that it's squiggly lines, and red).
2.) If you will, note his dialogue:
"Pretender! Nadd has only taught you the beginnings of Sith power, woman -- but I have learned everything!"
This seems to indicate that he was using the same attack except with more power, so as to show Aleema that what he has learned of Sith magic topples Aleema's own. She also calls him a "pretender", and it would make sense to even prove that he wasn't by using the same type of attack back at Aleema.
3.) The blast didn't even so much as put a burn on Aleema's dress, even if it was toned down - there isn't even a little singe. He was actually mad, as you can obviously tell by his dialogue to Aleema when she claimed him to be a "pretender". No burns? Different design? Dialogue? I'd say it was hardly an amulet blast.
But, of course, the onus is on you to prove that it was in fact an amulet blast.
You were saying?
That can be attributed to artist interpretation.
It can be attributed to the fact it wasn't the same attack.
And notice he doesn't even attempt this on Ulic, whom was the only real threat to him.
And notice that the duel between the two was interrupted shortly after it began by Ragnos.
As well, you're ignoring the numerous possibilities - one of which being that the amulets provide a defense against each other.
Nor to Vodo.
Ulic posed the "only real threat" to Kun by your own admission, what relevance does mentioning Vodo have then? He was Kun's former master, defeating him in the manner he did would've been much more satisfying to Kun's ego.
Anyways, simply because Exar didn't use the amulets against characters XYZ is not indicative of a damn thing. It's entirely irrelevant.
Bane unleashes an force wave that puts Kuns little blasts to shame
I recall hearing that Bane had to charge the attack, but I may be mistaken. Either way...
Kun:
Bane: "The concussive blast has enough power to shatter every bone in Kas’im’s body and pulverize his flesh into a mass of pulpy liquid."
Complete disintegration versus bones shattering/liquidation of flesh - I'd say the former is much more impressive.
I'll address the rest later, assuming I have free time.
No, Kun has not accomplished a similar feat, but to assume that the amulet beams wouldn't be able to replicate what happened in POD is silly. Just take a look at the explosions caused by the blasts themselves, they are huge.
The point I was making was that the power behind the two attacks differs greatly, with Kun's blasts being more powerful. I'd say more power is more impressive. And didn't Bane just collapse the entranceway of the structure, not the actual temple itself?
Originally posted by Advent
No, Kun has not accomplished a similar feat, but to assume that the amulet beams wouldn't be able to replicate what happened in POD is silly. Just take a look at the explosions caused by the blasts themselves, they are huge.The point I was making was that the power behind the two attacks differs greatly, with Kun's blasts being more powerful. I'd say more power is more impressive. And didn't Bane just collapse the entranceway of the structure, not the actual temple itself?
I recall it was the entire temple. But this is after years of listening to Nebaris.
Originally posted by GideonHe merely brought down an extremely old building and he simply destroyed the buildings foundations... which caused the whole temple to collapse.
I believe Styles was referring to the damage wrought by Bane's telekinesis; he brought down a massive temple. Not being an expert on Kun, does he achieve something similar?
I don't have the book with me as it is misplaced... but i do recall his force wave hitting the buildings base, not the whole building as dickbaris is claiming to make his sex idol look more Ub3R
This is not a storybook, Styles. It's a versus fight, where the characters are assumed to be able to use any abilities in their arsenal.
My point in that statement was, everyone is just flat out assuming that Kun will seemingly just sit there and shoot out blasts and no one will be able to do a damn thing about it, which I have said the onus is on your side to prove that:
Exar's blast can penetrate the force shield of a powerful force user let alone Darth Sidious. Considering as we've seen in PoD, that a decently strong force user can fully block a "concussive blast that has enough power to shatter every bone in Kas’im’s body and pulverize his flesh into a mass of pulpy liquid" withing a split second of seeing the attack coming.
Yes, as he's already demonstrated prior to knowing jack shit about the dark side and the powers of the ancient Sith.
Yes and in the exact same picture you posted he screams:
"The dark energy keeps increasing! I can't control it! --emphasis the comics.
Then he goes on to note how he can just barley direct it, --again emphasis the comics not mine.
Finally the narration goes on to state that the power of the amulets nearly killed him.
He shoots of three blasts before he starts crying about how he can't control it, now how effective would that be in a fight against someone how can match his power? Someone who isn't an inanimate object, someone who isn't a red shirt goon, and someone who isn't a 60 foot retarded worm? Someone who can not only match and supersedes his own force power but someone who can move as a blur, and is also a VERY skilled saber duelist. To the logical mind it wouldn't be effective at all.
See above. He has now mastered Sadow's teaching and grown exponentially more powerful.
I'm willingly to conceed that: yeah he probably did get better with the amulet after he mastered Sadows teachings, buts his unknown, unsubstantiated power boost now allows him to constantly spit up amulet blasts indefinitely? Thats stretching it. Alot.
1.) The apparent form the blast took looked similar in design as the blast Aleema demonstrated one panel prior, it radically differs from the amulet blasts we see earlier on by that it's doesn't look like Goku's Kamehahahahahaha blast, or whatever (by that it's squiggly lines, and red).
As I said earlier: Artist Interpretation.
Exar Kun shoots the blast from the hand that the amulet is on, which on its own should go to show that it was indeed an amulet blast as shown by the next panel which has both Kuns and Ulics amulets glowing with dark side energy:
NOTE that the hand Kun shot Aleema with and the one glowing are infact: the same hand.
And that portion of the comic is crudely drawn compared to the section where Exar goes ape shit on the temple, as you can see by a comparison of the two panels, but just because its drawn slightly different by a different artist in no way assumes that its a different attack. If were going to go by this logic then that Ulic must be a clone cause he doesn't look exactly like his first incarnation, and his lightsaber is inconsistently blue in those panels and yellow in others so ah he must have two and be a master of Jar Kari!!! Obviously these are both rather stupid to assume, so why do you assume that Kun's blasts are any different? Its 90's Dark Horse comic book art aka trash.
As for your note about the color of the attacks, once again artist interpretation, as I've already pointed out sometimes Ulic's saber is blue, sometimes its yellow, sometimes its kinda green its a simply inconsistency in the art. And really Advent its not that far off either, in the art that you provided the blast is a light red-pinkish color, and in the art I've sampled its just light red with and darker outline. A simple color inconsistency. Really now your argument against it amounts to: nuh uh those lines are squiggly!
If you will, note his dialogue:"Pretender! Nadd has only taught you the beginnings of Sith power, woman -- but I have learned everything!"
This seems to indicate that he was using the same attack except with more power, so as to show Aleema that what he has learned of Sith magic topples Aleema's own. She also calls him a "pretender", and it would make sense to even prove that he wasn't by using the same type of attack back at Aleema.
Exactly, Kun was showing her the true power of someone whose mastered the Sith Arts and such, by using the amulet to blast her, its not a different power as you can see Aleema showed manifests those blasts WITHOUT the help of the Amulet although they were pathetically weak in comparison to Kun's, to reinforce this point King Ommin (whom Aleema studied under) performed the same attack on Ulic and Nomi:
Ulic said he was being blasted with "infinite hatred". And what exactly is the blasts that Kun unleashes? Concentrated blasts of dark side energy (The same thing Ommin did) as the narration states:
"What Exar Kun understands is that the Dark rage that fills his own heart can be focused in this amulet and unleash tremendous energies." --emphasis the comics not mine.
The amulet isn't whats unleashing the blasts; its Exar Kun. The Amulet is only amplifying what would have came out a 10 fold, as thats the amulets function to amplify rage and hate to fuel more dark side power:
"With a clash of iron the amulet clamps itself on his arm. Exar Kun suddenly feels his rage amplify a thousand times...then a hundred thousand times."
Which Darth Bane describes the process pretty accurately without the help of the rage clamps in PoD:
"Passion fueled the dark side, but what if the dark side also fueled passion? Emotion brought power, but that power increased the intensity of those emotions...which in turn led to an increase in power. In the right circumstances, it would create a cycle that would end only when a person reached the limits of his or her ability to command the force--or when the target of his or her anger and hatred was destroyed."
We shouldn't even be calling them "Amulet Blasts" because thats not what they are, they're blasts of concentrated dark side energy or as wookie calls them: Force Blasts.
Now that we know exactly what the attack is it becomes far more plausible for a weak nublet like Aleema to be able to do, as evident by the fact that everyone and their mother can produce Sith Lightning but only the Emperor can use it to turn multiple seasoned Dark Side Prophets into ash.
3.) The blast didn't even so much as put a burn on Aleema's dress, even if it was toned down - there isn't even a little singe. He was actually mad, as you can obviously tell by his dialogue to Aleema when she claimed him to be a "pretender".
Cause maybe just maybe she threw up a force shield, and it protected her(and her dress) from being harmed and was only knocked unconscious by the force of the blast, combined with her slamming against the wall/floor. Considering as I've already stated we've seen Kas'im fully block an attack that should have liquefy him not to mention it blew apart rock like it was confetti. Not only did he survive it, but his clothes weren't ripped off either, we can logically assume that the defense does as were told it does in PoD: a complete full body envelopment in the force, clothes and all.
The fact that Kun's attack failed to:
A. Kill her
B. Fully pierce her force shield enough to burn her
Are testaments to how seemingly useless the attack is to high class force users (which Aleema isn't) if Aleema could defend it, Sidious would laugh it off.
But, of course, the onus is on you to prove that it was in fact an amulet blast.
You were saying?
I recall hearing that Bane had to charge the attack, but I may be mistaken. Either way...
Yes, he did, in the time it took Kas'im to say three short sentences, Bane gathered the energy for the attack.
Complete disintegration versus bones shattering/liquidation of flesh - I'd say the former is much more impressive.
Considering Bane's attack wasn't a physical manifestation of the Dark Side like Kuns ( which gives the potential to burn, melt, disintegrate) but was merely a really big force wave, that it had enough power to liquidate flesh speaks bounds for how strong the attack actually was and I'd rank that above the force blasts IMO.
I'll address the rest later, assuming I have free time.
I'll be waiting.
I see part of your argument stems from Wookiepedia. Clearly they never took into consideration the fact that not all dark side energy carries the same attributes. Could it possibly be that the energy produced by the gauntlet has different properties than a Sith magic attack? Yes, that's a rather sound assumption rather than lumping them together.
Originally posted by Dr. Styles
My point in that statement was, everyone is just flat out assuming that Kun will seemingly just sit there and shoot out blasts and no one will be able to do a damn thing about it, which I have said the onus is on your side to prove thatExar's blast can penetrate the force shield of a powerful force user let alone Darth Sidious.
Let me stop you right there, I never claimed that Kun's blasts are completely incapable of being blocked (or that his opponent will sit idly by) nor did I ever have the intention of arguing such. So please quit being presumptuous.
Considering as we've seen in PoD, that a decently strong force user can fully block a "concussive blast that has enough power to shatter every bone in Kas’im’s body and pulverize his flesh into a mass of pulpy liquid" withing a split second of seeing the attack coming.
Based off that, you're assuming that Sidious would be able to constantly block massive energy beams that multiplies in power with every pulse of Kun's anger? Where's the evidence for that again? Contrary to what Sidious says in ROTS, he does not have "UNLIMITED POWAH!".
Do you honestly believe he wouldn't have to expend a ridiculous amount of energy just to block the first beam (that's assuming it doesn't overpower him anyways)? We know that the power behind the amulet beams are enough to blast through a Sith Wyrm and still travel with the same apparent force that it began with. We also know that to shield yourself from an attack, you'd be draining yourself. Given the sheer intensity of the beams, I'd surmise that Sidious would be exhausting a rather considerable portion of his power.
Yes and in the exact same picture you posted he screams:"The dark energy keeps increasing! I can't control it! --emphasis the comics.
Then he goes on to note how he can just barley direct it, --again emphasis the comics not mine.
Originally posted by Advent
Prior to knowing jack shit about the dark side and the powers of the ancient Sith.He has now mastered Sadow's teaching and grown exponentially more powerful.
Realize I wasn't questioning whether or not you were correct, only that your using a Kun who - by comparison to his later self - is substantially weaker.
Finally the narration goes on to state that the power of the amulets nearly killed him.
And then Kun reflects to himself the very same thing, ergo he set out to master that power. This is why your premise here is flawed. By your inane reasoning, ROTS Obi-Wan sucks at Soresu since when he first started practicing it, he wasn't good at all. Does that make sense to you? No, because by the time of ROTS, he had completely mastered the form.
Quit being dense.
He shoots of three blasts before he starts crying about how he can't control it, now how effective would that be in a fight against someone how can match his power?
We're talking about Exar Kun, the Dark Lord of the Sith not Exar Kun, the Jedi who knew absolutely nothing of what clamped around his hand. Once you learn that they are not one in the same, then perhaps you'll see why these blasts would be rather effective.
Someone who isn't an inanimate object
Who's skin is also not tougher than a Sith Wyrm's hide nor temple rock.
someone who isn't a red shirt goon, and someone who isn't a 60 foot retarded worm?
Continue throwing out this type of irrelevancy, Styles. The fact that Sidious is neither of these things matters not. If the blast connected with Sidious, he would be toast.
Someone who can not only match and supersedes his own force power
I'd question by what degree. Nevertheless if a blast actually hit Sidious, what exactly do you think would happen to him? Would he magically be able to survive complete disintegration? I'd think not.
but someone who can move as a blur,
A blur to whom exactly? The problem is that while he may "move as a blur" to character X, it doesn't mean character Y wouldn't be able to follow his movements. Not to mention, the instance you're referring to in the novel is trumped by the highest form of canon (which shows Anakin wasn't even there to perceive the duel).
and is also a VERY skilled saber duelist.
Which is rather irrelevant.
To the logical mind it wouldn't be effective at all.
If by "logical" you mean "absolutely apeshit insane".
According to your logic, Sidious' lightning isn't effective in a fight simply because it can be blocked. Your slippery slope reasoning is extremely f'ed up and makes no sense. Your assuming that because something can be blocked, it inevitably will be blocked. A logical fallacy.
I'm willingly to conceed that: yeah he probably did get better with the amulet after he mastered Sadows teachings,
Yet you'd continue to offer proof that "KUN CANT CONTROL TEH AMULETZ!" by using a version of Exar Kun who knew precisely squat about the dark side or how to operate the gauntlet.
buts his unknown, unsubstantiated power boost
It's not exactly as unknown as you'd like it to be, Styles. We know that prior to his discovery of the gauntlet on Yavin IV, he was an extraordinary (but not necessarily all-powerful) Jedi apprentice. After studying Sadow's trove of knowledge, he becomes one of the most powerful entities in the Star Wars mythos. The leap of power would've had to have been immense...
now allows him to constantly spit up amulet blasts indefinitely? Thats stretching it. Alot.
....and given that immense boost in strength and the fact that he has mastered all of what Sadow left behind, no it's not "stretching" anything. The only "stretch" stems from your position, that he wouldn't be able to do such.
As I said earlier: Artist Interpretation.
As I alluded to earlier: bullshit.
Exar Kun shoots the blast from the hand that the amulet is on, which on its own should go to show that it was indeed an amulet blast
Originally posted by Advent
Is Kun using the amulet to push back Sylvar or Odan Urr simply because he uses the same hand? I was always under the impression if you were right or left handed - for the most part - you would usually demonstrate your powers with that hand, so long as it was free.
"On its own" it means absolutely nothing.
as shown by the next panel which has both Kuns and Ulics amulets glowing with dark side energy
The aura produced by the amulets was Sith magic, the omniscient narrator explicitly states as much:
"A time when Sith magic learned how to construct amulets to carry a message down through the centuries"...it follows then that the attack by Kun was, in fact, Sith magic since it's exactly the same in appearance. It does not follow that Sith magic blasts and the amulet beams are the same power, however.
NOTE that the hand Kun shot Aleema with and the one glowing are infact: the same hand.
Could it be because Sith magic was calling Ragnos forth and that Sith magic was used by Kun to floor Aleema? I wouldn't exactly expect them to differ.
And that portion of the comic is crudely drawn compared to the section where Exar goes ape shit on the temple, as you can see by a comparison of the two panels, but just because its drawn slightly different by a different artist in no way assumes that its a different attack.
The appearance of the blasts only support my position. If I had no other reason to assume they were different besides how they were penciled, then I wouldn't be arguing against it. You stating that "ZOMG ADVENT! JUST BECAUSE" when it's obvious that is not the only piece of evidence is ridiculous.
Really now your argument against it amounts to: nuh uh those lines are squiggly!
Learn to refute my points and then perhaps my argument will amount to: "nuh uh those lines are squiggly".
Exactly, Kun was showing her the true power of someone whose mastered the Sith Arts and such, by using the amulet to blast her
How would using the gauntlet prove a damn thing? It is a safe assumption to make that anyone who equips the gauntlet could produce the blasts, so it's not exactly impressive. Toppling her with the same type of magic she used against him fits more to his character and the dialogue presented.
its not a different power
But it is. The burden of proof lies upon you to prove your assertion, not just state it.
as you can see Aleema showed manifests those blasts WITHOUT the help of the Amulet although they were pathetically weak in comparison to Kun's
See above, prove up that beams of energy which are shown to completely disintegrate anything that comes in their path and Sith magic which is only shown to knock the victim unconscious are the same thing. Their characteristics differ greatly and there's no indication ever that they're the same attack, with one being a more powerful form than the other.
to reinforce this point King Ommin (whom Aleema studied under) performed the same attack on Ulic and Nomi:
This is what we see long before he even attempts his assault on Ulic and Nomi:
Ommin's attack encases Arca in a constant dark side energy, which is absolutely nothing like the blasts produced by the Sadow's amulet nor is it ever noted as being possible to do with it. On the page prior to that, Arca notes that Nadd had been teaching Ommin in the ways of Sith magic (which is what Aleema performs on Kun and vica versa).
Ulic said he was being blasted with "infinite hatred". And what exactly is the blasts that Kun unleashes?
"[...] lightning blasted from Palpatine's hands, and Mace didn't have time to comprehend what Palpatine was talking about; he had time only to slip back into Vaapad and angle his blade to catch the forking arcs of pure, dazzling hatred that clawed toward him." (Revenge of the Sith, Ch. 17)
Dark side techniques are fueled by hatred, so it's not exactly suspect for the attack to be described in such a manner. It doesn't mean they are the same power.
Concentrated blasts of dark side energy (The same thing Ommin did) as the narration states:"What Exar Kun understands is that the Dark rage that fills his own heart can be focused in this amulet and unleash tremendous energies." --emphasis the comics not mine.
The amulet isn't whats unleashing the blasts; its Exar Kun.
You're right, Kun is the one "unleashing tremendous energies". However, he would've been incapable of releasing said energies without the use of the amulet as a conduit.
The Amulet is only amplifying what would have came out a 10 fold, as thats the amulets function to amplify rage and hate to fuel more dark side power:"With a clash of iron the amulet clamps itself on his arm. Exar Kun suddenly feels his rage amplify a thousand times...then a hundred thousand times."
I'm curious to know what exactly "would have came out" if Kun didn't have the gauntlet equipped. Indeed, you clearly seem to lack a grasp of understanding of what is presented in the comic. The amulet is the conductor for which the blasts are being released. They are what is manifesting the "dark rage in [Kun's] heart" into beams of destructive energy.
We shouldn't even be calling them "Amulet Blasts" because thats not what they are, they're blasts of concentrated dark side energy or as wookie calls them: Force Blasts.
They're blasts that cannot be produced without the use of the amulet, hence "amulet blasts".
Now that we know exactly what the attack is it becomes far more plausible for a weak nublet like Aleema to be able to do
Dharma fing Buddha, they are not the same attack. Sith magic is not the equivalent to what is produced by the gauntlet. If it is, prove up without your damn speculation.
as evident by the fact that everyone and their mother can produce Sith Lightning but only the Emperor can use it to turn multiple seasoned Dark Side Prophets into ash.
Except that doesn't apply to this scenario, since you've failed to establish that the attacks are the same.
Cause maybe just maybe she threw up a force shield, and it protected her(and her dress) from being harmed
What a crock! This is a huge unsupported assumption. I wish I could live in the same fantasy world as you where by just saying something makes it so. It sure would be a vacation to not have to obey the basic laws of proving up before accepting something to be true.
Despite your ridiculous claim, this is still a valid point you need to address:
Originally posted by Advent
The blast didn't even so much as put a burn on Aleema's dress, even if it was toned down - there isn't even a little singe. He was actually mad, as you can obviously tell by his dialogue to Aleema when she claimed him to be a "pretender".
and was only knocked unconscious by the force of the blast, combined with her slamming against the wall/floor.
She was knocked unconscious by Sith magic, Styles. The same Sith magic Aleema used against Kun ("Aleema is relieved to find her Sith magic still intact"😉. Which, in generally every instance, is shown to incapacitate the victim (see: Ommin's use of it against Arca above).
And being that Kun by the time of he confronts Ulic is very powerful and that Aleema does not put up a defense, it would stand to reason that an amulet blast would've killed her (and that was Kun's initial intention). But it didn't. Thus, it was not the same attack.
Considering as I've already stated we've seen Kas'im fully block an attack that should have liquefy him not to mention it blew apart rock like it was confetti. Not only did he survive it, but his clothes weren't ripped off either, we can logically assume that the defense does as were told it does in PoD: a complete full body envelopment in the force, clothes and all.
No evidence points to Aleema creating a defense against Kun's assault to begin with, so this is all rather meaningless.
The fact that Kun's attack failed to:A. Kill her
B. Fully pierce her force shield enough to burn her
Are testaments to how seemingly useless the attack is to high class force users (which Aleema isn't) if Aleema could defend it
Prove she created a Force shield. You can't, because she didn't. Prove that it was an amulet blast. You can't, because it wasn't. Therefore,
Feel. Free. To. Shut. Up. Anytime.
Sidious would laugh it off.
The same Sidious who was shitting his pants when Yoda threw back a Senate pod. I wonder how he's going to respond to beams of massive magnitude which double in strength with each pulse.
You were saying?
That only works when you know what you're talking about. You clearly don't. Try again.
Considering Bane's attack wasn't a physical manifestation of the Dark Side like Kuns ( which gives the potential to burn, melt, disintegrate) but was merely a really big force wave, that it had enough power to liquidate flesh speaks bounds for how strong the attack actually was and I'd rank that above the force blasts IMO.
...I see what you're saying, but I don't think they can really be compared given the difference in nature.
I'll be waiting.
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