Son of a *****!

Originally posted by Da Joker
Who got pwned? I sure as hell didn't...and from the looks of the first few pages, you already got pwned.

The "sick ****s" I'm referring to are killers. There's no way you're born a killer, or a rapist. Your argument is so damn laughabale it ain't funny.

But I'll laugh anyway. 😆 😂

Originally posted by Da Joker
Who got pwned? I sure as hell didn't...and from the looks of the first few pages, you already got pwned.

The "sick ****s" I'm referring to are killers. There's no way you're born a killer, or a rapist. Your argument is so damn laughabale it ain't funny.

But I'll laugh anyway. 😆 😂

So then let's use your own logic against you for a bit. You said that people who are born in shitty enviroments can grown up to be regular individuals.

But as already noted, there are people who grow up in perfect environments surrounded by loving people and have hardly any traumatic problems at all... but then end up killing their parents or murdering someone.

So how do you explain those people? It wasn't their environment that did that to them. No one made them that way. So what happened?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Terrible stereotype. Schizophrenics are far more likely to be victims of violence than they are to be driven to commit acts of violence because they're schizophrenic.

It was just an example...

Originally posted by Da Joker
Who got pwned? I sure as hell didn't...and from the looks of the first few pages, you already got pwned.

The "sick ****s" I'm referring to are killers. There's no way you're born a killer, or a rapist. Your argument is so damn laughabale it ain't funny.

But I'll laugh anyway. 😆 😂

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
So then let's use your own logic against you for a bit. You said that people who are born in shitty enviroments can grown up to be regular individuals.

But as already noted, there are people who grow up in perfect environments surrounded by loving people and have hardly any traumatic problems at all... but then end up killing their parents or murdering someone.

So how do you explain those people? It wasn't their environment that did that to them. No one made them that way. So what happened?

A mental illness possibly? It's obvious a killer can come from either a good or bad background, but my point is being a born killer is ridiculous. I guess tomorrow I'll waltz in a hospital, look at some babies, and choose the born killers. 😄

Originally posted by Da Joker
A mental illness possibly?

Which the person would be born with . . .

Originally posted by Da Joker
It's obvious a killer can come from either a good or bad background, but my point is being a born killer is ridiculous. I guess tomorrow I'll waltz in a hospital, look at some babies, and choose the born killers. 😄

What are you five?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What are you five?

Originally posted by Devil King
How old are you Da Joker?

Originally posted by Da Joker
I don't think that is relevant.

It must get annoying, everyone wondering why you act like a petulant child.

Because he is, sometimes it's that simple.

Originally posted by Da Joker
A mental illness possibly?

Holy shit, you just pwned yourself.

Your level of fail is amusing.

It really is.

*Vader voice* "The fail is strong in this one"

I don't think its fair to say that a disposition toward a mental illness at birth is the same as having the illness.

Huntington's disease and other such genetic things, ok, sure. Schizophrenia, no, not even close.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because he is, sometimes it's that simple.

I am? I didn't know I was five, why didn't someone tell me earlier? 🙁

The point is that you can't say every person that kills is a born killer, because it's ridiculous. If I happen to kill someone in self defense does that make me a born killer? No, it does not. Not all killer's even have mental illness. anyway.

No one said every person is born a killer. What the ****?

Originally posted by Da Joker
I am? I didn't know I was five, why didn't someone tell me earlier? 🙁

The point is that you can't say every person that kills is a born killer, because it's ridiculous. If I happen to kill someone in self defense does that make me a born killer? No, it does not. Not all killer's even have mental illness. anyway.

Not all are, it just takes one bad day to make a perfectly sane dude a killer.

But some are born with illnesses or other whacky genetic mumbo jumbo which could lead to you hurting someone else.

That was the point all along.

Okay, and I get that, but Kelly_Bean was basically implying that all killers are born killers, as evidenced by her statement if you're sick ****, you're basically born a sick ****.

No she wasn't.

She never, even once, implied that all were born that way. That's you trying to cop out.

I think some people are born evil but for most people if they turn into a serial killer its because something really bad happened to them.

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Can be, but you stated earlier that they DO ALWAYS help which is very incorrect and my ex-step uncle is living proof of that.

that is false, I would never claim such as it is, as you point out, absurd

as seen on the first page [http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t489984.html]:

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Medicine heals nothing like that. If you are born a murderer, you are born a murderer.

Originally posted by inimalist
wrong

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
If you're born a sick f*ck, you're born a sick f*ck. Nothing can heal that at all. You get yourself nowhere by stating that I am "wrong" because you have less proof than I do that it's a "choice" to become a sick f*ck.

Originally posted by inimalist
ummm, not what i said

your statement was that no medication can cure people who are homicidal

the actual fact is that, depending on very specific personal variables and underlying causes, both therapy and medication can be effective in altering the violent behaviour and troubled mind.

I in fact mention the specific personal variables, bolded.

you should not jump so quickly to conclusions

Inimalist's post is like a cure to all the bad posts that preceded it, reading it definately stopped me from killing myself.

My post wasn't that bad... 🙁