Originally posted by Mindset
I'm not sure her lasso and tiara would be useful under water...
Unless water somehow removes their magical properties, I don't see how they wouldn't be useful. Obviously she isn't going to throw them. She could use the tiara as a weapon and she could still be able to get the lasso around him when she gets close to him.
They are both perks. She wouldn't need them to win of course.
And to answer your earlier question, she can hold her breath long enough to take Namor out. She can survive in space. I think she can manage under water.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Unless water somehow removes their magical properties, I don't see how they wouldn't be useful. Obviously she isn't going to throw them. She could use the tiara as a weapon and she could still be able to get the lasso around him when she gets close to him.They are both perks. She wouldn't need them to win of course.
And to answer your earlier question, she can hold her breath long enough to take Namor out. She can survive in space. I think she can manage under water.
They lose their mobility, which is what I was commenting on, common sense should have let you know that...
When she is in space she uses equipment to allow her to breath from what I've seen.
Originally posted by Mindset
They lose their mobility, which is what I was commenting on, common sense should have let you know that...When she is in space she uses equipment to allow her to breath from what I've seen.
You obviously are not able to detect sarcasm. I figured that you were only capable of thinking of a single way for Diana to use her weapons. Common sense should tell you that those weapons do not need mobility to still be very potent. She will obviously be fighting him in close combat, where as I said before, she can use the tiara as a weapon. And again, common sense should tell you that she could still get the lasso around him WITHOUT having to throw it. And again, she does not *need* her weapons to beat him.
And take a look at WW's fight with Superman in WW #219. She needed no equipment to help her breathe. It was not a prolonged fight, but obviously her lungs were able to handle the strain of fighting in space.
Originally posted by Sasaraixxon land and at his strongest namor is still going to lose this, however......under water where diana will have to contend with the water pressure holding her breath and namor's greater manueverability, i don't see her winning.
And we all know how accurate and consistent the JL cartoon was with respect to the heroes' powers . . .Wondy wins this one. She could definitely kill with her tiara if she needed, but more than likely she would get her lasso around him and it would be over.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
You obviously are not able to detect sarcasm. I figured that you were only capable of thinking of a single way for Diana to use her weapons. Common sense should tell you that those weapons do not need mobility to still be very potent. She will obviously be fighting him in close combat, where as I said before, she can use the tiara as a weapon. And again, common sense should tell you that she could still get the lasso around him WITHOUT having to throw it. And again, she does not *need* her weapons to beat him.And take a look at WW's fight with Superman in WW #219. She needed no equipment to help her breathe. It was not a prolonged fight, but obviously her lungs were able to handle the strain of fighting in space.
I know you were being sarcastic.
Yes, but Namor wouldn't be standing still for her to get the lasso around him... 😐
I don't doubt that Diana can handle the pressure, that has nothing to do with needed to breath though, so what was the point in bringing up her fight in space?
Originally posted by Mindset I know you were being sarcastic.Yes, but Namor wouldn't be standing still for her to get the lasso around him... 😐I don't doubt that Diana can handle the pressure, that has nothing to do with needed to breath though, so what was the point in bringing up her fight in space?What the hell are you talking about? Why would she not be able to handle the pressure?
Here she stays far enough in the water and long enough for a group of alien invaders to think she's dead. Even GL was getting worried.
Originally posted by Mindset
I know you were being sarcastic.Yes, but Namor wouldn't be standing still for her to get the lasso around him... 😐
I don't doubt that Diana can handle the pressure, that has nothing to do with needed to breath though, so what was the point in bringing up her fight in space?
1. No, you didn't know I was being sarcastic. Your post doesn't indicate that one bit.
2. And he wouldn't be standing still for her to get it around him if they were out of water either. Your point is? If she is fast enough to tag him under water, she would be fast enough to wrap it around him. It really isn't that hard a concept to understand. 😕 She doesn't have to throw it! 🙁
3. And the point of her fighting in space is that she obviously can fight without oxygen. You thought that she required equipment to breathe in space.
4. The scan that fangirl provided is in point. She obviously stayed underwater long enough to fake her death and then swim to sure. We don't know EXACTLY how long that is but it was obviously more than a few seconds. It gives her plenty of time to get the job done.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
1. No, you didn't know I was being sarcastic. Your post doesn't indicate that one bit.2. And he wouldn't be standing still for her to get it around him if they were out of water either. Your point is? If she is fast enough to tag him under water, she would be fast enough to wrap it around him. It really isn't that hard a concept to understand. 😕 She doesn't have to throw it! 🙁
3. And the point of her fighting in space is that she obviously can fight without oxygen. You thought that she required equipment to breathe in space.
4. The scan that fangirl provided is in point. She obviously stayed underwater long enough to fake her death and then swim to sure. We don't know EXACTLY how long that is but it was obviously more than a few seconds. It gives her plenty of time to get the job done.
Except out of water she is leagues above him in speed and nothing is hindering her mobility or that of the lasso. Which is clearly different from her being under the water and trying to wrap it around him. Her being fast enough to hit him does not mean she would be fast enough to wrap the lasso around him.
Except she does need oxygen to breathe in space from the comics I've read, did it show her talking or anything to show she was actually breathing and not just holding her breath?
Well I had already assumed she could hold her breath more than a few seconds, since you know, humans can do it for minutes, but the thing is we do not know how easily she would be able to move around under water. Or how long she could keep holding her breath while fighting Namor.
Originally posted by Mindset
Except out of water she is leagues above him in speed and nothing is hindering her mobility or that of the lasso. Which is clearly different from her being under the water and trying to wrap it around him. Her being fast enough to hit him does not mean she would be fast enough to wrap the lasso around him.Except she does need oxygen to breathe in space from the comics I've read, did it show her talking or anything to show she was actually breathing and not just holding her breath?
Well I had already assumed she could hold her breath more than a few seconds, since you know, humans can do it for minutes, but the thing is we do not know how easily she would be able to move around under water. Or how long she could keep holding her breath while fighting Namor.
Originally posted by Mindset
Except out of water she is leagues above him in speed and nothing is hindering her mobility or that of the lasso. Which is clearly different from her being under the water and trying to wrap it around him. Her being fast enough to hit him does not mean she would be fast enough to wrap the lasso around him.Except she does need oxygen to breathe in space from the comics I've read, did it show her talking or anything to show she was actually breathing and not just holding her breath?
Well I had already assumed she could hold her breath more than a few seconds, since you know, humans can do it for minutes, but the thing is we do not know how easily she would be able to move around under water. Or how long she could keep holding her breath while fighting Namor.
Since she's so far above namor in strength and speed, she won't need but a few seconds at best. Her speed insn't hindered by water since she can fly and wont' have to swin. We hardly ever see flyers slowed down by water. Not the one's with uber super strength. the ocean pressures dont' come into play becuz she's tuffer than aquaman and the pressure doesn't bother him. She held her breath while fighting one of the best white martians. namor doesn't compare. even under water.