Its mutiny I tell ya MUTINY!!!!!

Started by Darth Subjekt2 pages

And where exactly would all these training sessions be held? He's a freaking politician who, during this war, was constantly around dignitaries and/or Jedi. I think they would have noticed him flipping around fighting. Besides, Dooku was rather busy, what with killing people and keeping a war going.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
lol wut? Yoda got owned by Sidious' lightning the first time, and the second time, it blew his lightsaber away (he didn't throw it or anything) and barely managed to hold Sidious' lightning.
i only mentioned that, because yoda was able to both react to, and negate, force-lightning from only a few feet away. that's why imo, gg could certainly block said lightning with at least one of his four sabers, assuming they start out a reasonable distance apart.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
And besides, do you think that Sidious only knows lightning? As the ultimate master of the dark side, he most certainly knows force crush, a technique that was employed by Mace Windu- Sidious' considerable inferior in the force and not even a dark sider- to disable Grievous. What makes you think Sidious wouldn't be able to use the same technique (to much more lethal results)?
i was only replying to a comment made regarding gg's ability to block force-lightning alone. but yes, i do realize that sidious has the ability to conjure other force related abilities (duh). however, any other powers he may be able to manifest were obviously not a consideration of mine, due to the one very force specific power i remarked on.

Yoda wasn't exactly able to negate the lightning so much as he barely caught it (after it disarmed him, leaving him without his most deadly weapon). And Grievous, while physically stronger than Yoda, doesn't have Yoda's uber-mastery of the force, which could enable him to gain strength and defending ability far beyond Grievous'.

And to MoC, what did Mace ever do that would put him on a level with Sidious? Please. Sidious is the same guy who executed a ritual that clouded the minds of... well, the entirety of Coruscant's population, summoned lightning storms to destroy large parts of its surface. Oh, and he was called a "Black hole in the force" by the RotS novel, and a greater master of the dark side than even Dooku, a guy who could decimate Asajj Ventress by lifting his finger. He also stalemated Yoda, Windu's superior and the 'most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known' in force abilities (or, depending on your point of view, he might have defeated Yoda). In their very force struggle, despite Windu having the advantages of Vaapad and superior physical conditioning, Sidious was pwning Mace, causing him to 'choke on ozone' and, it was made almost explicitly clear that Sidious would've defeated him if it wasn't for him 'faking' his weakness (supported by GL himself). Do I really need to go on?

no you dont need to go on because you are wrong, sure siddious can do many things with the force but that didnt stop him from laying on the groung disfigured and crying before mace

Mace beat Sidious. Plain and simple. no one is claiming mace to be Sidious's superior, BUT as a combatant, one on one, with all abilities being used, Mace beat Sidious. Sidious obviously can PWN mace with the force, but overall? not nearly as obious.

Yeah Lucas says that Mace can "compete with the Emperor" and says that he overpowered Sidious (in the saber duel) on the ROTS AC. Sidious is by no means far above Mace. Whether they are equals or not is debatable but Mace is definitely not far below.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Yoda wasn't exactly able to negate the lightning so much as he barely caught it (after it disarmed him, leaving him without his most deadly weapon). And Grievous, while physically stronger than Yoda, doesn't have Yoda's uber-mastery of the force, which could enable him to gain strength and defending ability far beyond Grievous'.
again, i was speaking purely on yoda's ability to react fast enough to deflect the lightning. as i've said before, gg would surely be able to react fast enough to block it ala his saber, if they started a reasonable distance apart. on a sidenote, when has yoda ever became, physically stronger than gg (a being who's strength was rumored to be beyond that of a wookie)? - i'm not saying he hasn't, but i'd like to see an instance of him doing so, is all.

in a nutshell, i really don't believe that grievous would be incapable of deflecting the lightning, under specified parameters. i just don't see his ability to hold onto the saber being any sort of issue. *shrugs*