AVP Aliens vs Starship Troopers Bugs

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AVP Aliens vs Starship Troopers Bugs

100 Aliens vs 100 of the Bugs from Starship Troopers (the same kind that stabs Rico)! Which species falls?

Aliens fall, arachnid bugs kick ass!

The Arachnids lose. The Xenomorph's structure gives them more versatility in their movements. They can walk both, upright or scurry on all fours. They are incredibly fast and bleed acid. Anytime an arachnid takes down a xenomorph, it will ultimately die as well. The arachnids have to use their legs or mouth to kill their enemies. Biting into an acid filled twinkie is going to give you more than indigestion, it will give you death.

It's been a while since I've seen Starship Troopers, but didn't the bugs in that movie have some sort of acidic blood as well?

i dont think so. I remember that on several occasions soldiers were covered in bug blood.

Yeah, you're right. The part I was thinking of was the flame-spewing bug that burned some soldiers. Nevermind!

Now let's take it to the next level. Since the bugs have an advantage on numbers and it was pretty much taken away on the 100 bugs vs. 100 aliens battle, lets give both sides all their advantages (disadvantages) and pit them against each other (e.g. numbers and intelligence vs. skill and power)

Aliens would win because of the acid blood. But if the battle took place on Planet P, the sheer ammount of Arachnids would overpower the Xenomorphs.

Bugs for the win. Aliens go down easy from pulse-rifle fire, whereas the Bugs were really tough sonzabitches to bring down.

Acid blood seems inconsistent in its effects.

Exactly, as NPH (he's gay BTW) said, "your basic Arachnid warrior isn't too smart, but you can blow off a limb, and it's still 86 percent combat effective."

I also can't see a single xeno taking down a bug without sustaining mortal or incapacitating wounds itself. While the bugs kill by either bite or stabbing with one of it's legs, and the acid on the later wouldn't take it out.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
i dont think so. I remember that on several occasions soldiers were covered in bug blood.
Yup. Not much to look at after you scrape them off your boot.

The Xenomorphs win solely because of their natural defense: acid blood.

The bugs may kill them, but the bugs will also die. The Xenomorphs are far more aggressive and tough, in my opinion.

Also, what happens if a Facehugger gets a hold of a bug?

Keep in mind that the Bug's have those big Tanker Bugs, too. The Tanker Bugs could shoot disintegrating flames and wipe out hundreds of Xenomorphs in a single shot. How would the Xenomorphs take out Tanker Bugs without getting massacred?

In what kind of environment are they fighting?

Originally posted by Utrigita
In what kind of environment are they fighting?

Anywhere they would battle in a war. It could be Klendathu, or it could be an Alien infested/controlled world.

If it's all out war, then the bugs for sure. Plasma bugs, Tanker bugs, the flying ones and there are several others, they definitely have the diversity of troops.

Originally posted by Impediment
The Xenomorphs win solely because of their natural defense: acid blood.

The bugs may kill them, but the bugs will also die.

Based on... what? If an Alien gets sliced in fecking half he may lose a lef, but as we've all seen even a bug with a missing leg is still able to keep fighting, and there's no proof that bugs would be affected by the aci as badly as Humanoids are. Their skin is much tougher.

The Xenomorphs are far more aggressive and tough, in my opinion.

Eh, I disagree.

Also, what happens if a Facehugger gets a hold of a bug?

Nothing. Their mouths are at the end of a long snout-ish thingy, there's no way a face hugger would even be able to wrap itself around a Bug, they;re too big. It'd be like watching a facehugger try to get ahold of a Crocodile. Their anatomies disable a face hugger from being able to do anything.

The physical structuring of the xenomorph make them far more agile than the bugs. However, if this is a full on xenomorph vs bug war, Based on the movie incarnations. I would be insane to say that the Xenomorphs can win. The bugs have to much going on in their arsenal. If this were the comic xenomorphs, The bugs would be destroyed with ease.

The only hope that the xenomorphs have is the facehuggers. By the time the eggs that the facehuggers layed in the bugs have gestated, it would be to late. However, It is possible that the Xenomorphs would never be destroyed because of the facehuggers. Are the Bugs smart enough to realize that after a facehugger lays an egg they are going to die...,are they smart enough to even realize that the facehuggers are laying eggs? I don't know, but i would doubt it. Either way, the Bugs just have to much fire power and diversity in their army. If it's just the arachnids against the xenomorphs, the xenomorphs win with ease, but an army of humanoid xenomorphs against the bug army seems to one sided.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk

Nothing. Their mouths are at the end of a long snout-ish thingy, there's no way a face hugger would even be able to wrap itself around a Bug, they;re too big. It'd be like watching a facehugger try to get ahold of a Crocodile. Their anatomies disable a face hugger from being able to do anything.

A facehugger layed an egg in a crocodile before 😂

I believe it was batman/aliens

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
[B]The only hope that the xenomorphs have is the facehuggers. By the time the eggs that the facehuggers layed in the bugs have gestated, it would be to late.

Well... how do we know it'd work on a bug o begin with? Bugs are different from humans and other animals in that they are controlled via hive mind. If a bug were to be infected and a bug/Alien hybrid were born, since the alien inherits many of the hosts characteristics it might be be under the control of the Brain Bug, as long as we're using speculation.

Aside from that, a bug would not be afraid to kill itself if it was infected if a brain bug ordered it to, which it would since the brain bug is sentient and would understand what is going on.

Are the Bugs smart enough to realize that after a facehugger lays an egg they are going to die...,are they smart enough to even realize that the facehuggers are laying eggs?

Well, considering that they managed to outsmart all of Humanity... I'd say yes?

And another thing that people seem to be forgetting is that Aliens win most oftheir battles due to human stupidity. Getting snuk up on, afraid to shoot the hull, can't see int he dark, etc. Aliens rely on the element of surprise to win most of their battles, they get mowed down otherwise.

In this scenario they're fighting an enemy that is also animalistic and is used to fighting in dark and other such spaces. Without the element of surprise the Aliens will lose.