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I haven't clicked on the link yet...got to get my speakers back from my rommate...yet..hmmm, Billy Graham........
We used to watch him everytime on tv when I was growing up. Hmmm...must have blocked much of it out. Some was pretty good, but..........when it came to damnation, guess I was tuned out at the time.........
Felt worthless after listening to him.
To me, this is not a good place to be.
Is ushome still just posting videos as threads? Can't give a summary and/or your own take on it there? Or provide discussion starters? Guess not.
Really, we should just give ushome his own thread for any video he wants to post. It would save room.
TED's a great organization, btw. I'm surprised Graham was invited to speak with them. I might watch it. But not today.
Ah, and it seems from their summary on the website that Graham's only way to end suffering is to accept Christ. Hate to break it to him, but there's more than one pathway to happiness. An all-Christian world would undoubtedly be more peaceful than it currently is. But so would an all-Buddhist world. Or an all-Muslim world. Or an all-Humanist world. Or {insert philosophical or religious belief} world. He's right to see technology as a chief ingredient in improving the world's state, though. At least progress isn't the work of the devil...at least not yet.
I logged onto the KMC and noticed -- on my thread -- that 2 people have declared that they do not agree with Billy Graham's sermon/speech. Hey, no problem. Still, if they viewed the entire video presentation, I wonder: Why do they disagree? Certainly, in my view, all Billy Graham stated was the truth. Man ponders about God, and man is well aware of his (or her) sinful nature. In light of this, at the end of the day, despite technology, life (as it is) does not bring ultimate happiness or joy. They do not have a relationship with their Creator, and they have not understood their nature. Instead, they run from it (to embrace more pleasant truths). I think, that is a powerful statement, and I also think -- for those who disagree -- need to present their view. No need to get into a tug-of-war match. I am simply curious. Talk to me.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Atheists, Ignostics, Antitheists -- god is not real/ irrelevant/ a delusion
Non-Christians -- don't necessarily agree with you about what is sin
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Sin is a transgression against the will of a god. If the Christian god is not real, then the Christian definition of sin is not real.
Sin, by the definition of many religious belief systems, aside from Christianity, are defined as violations of God's will -- rules, in other words -- ensuring the best conditions of (or for) life. If everyone on the face of the planet treated each other as "themselves," life would be dramatically different then today!
Nonetheless, I do not think such reasoning is necessary. Put aside written documents for the moment, and bear with me.
God's will is written -- witnessed -- unto our conscience. We, as conscience beings, know that murder is wrong. Such is not taught; it is instinctive. And so, I really doubt, that even some of you readers claim to reject the notion of sin, such is false -- let's say murder in this case.
Visit any country, state/providence, or county/village, murder someone's father (or whatever), I guarantee that will not be greeted with positive results based on one's political system, culture (or whatever). It is an extreme example, but you understand my point. Mankind is on the same so-called "scales of justice."
Aside from the obvious, you simply cannot deny the pain and suffering in your life. Such is the result of sin. And, at the core of it all, you blaspheme God (or your counter-parts). You do not merely calculate sin... you "experience" it! Where does the conviction to feel wronged come from (or the joy in forgiving)?! If I said to you, "Who cares about the sociopath that killed your mother (or whom ever)! Study another culture to end your pain and suffering," that would not be an expectable recourse. Bottom line, you would want "justice served," by God or man!
We, as human beings, are not robots, merely calculating stimulus to survive. No... we actually "experience" life. I promise, your lab-top computer will never understand your problems. However elementary you may view my discourse, I think you understand my point. You are more than a machine; and you are more than chemical reactions. And the kicker is, you know this, ha ha! What an amazing feat -- to be conscience and "aware" of one's self!!
I really do not understand -- at the core, anyway -- the usage of the terms "atheist, ignostic, and/or antitheist." What really are you attempting to convey? Help me understand.