Originally posted by bbrem123
zarathos and blaze r the same...some god or other?? and i never said anything about GR powers being boundless just the fact how strange reacts when zarathos takes controlnightmare has limitless power in his realm...where he even trapped eternity...outside his realm he can be beatin
and if u dont kno about zarathos how can u even be arguing against me?
it implied how GR was almost "boundless", I replied that I could show you scans stating that Hulk is "boundless"/limitless etc etc, but that it didn't mean GR would destroy Hulk (nor did I suggest the opposite).
you did retract the "destroy" comment but then went on the Zarathos tangent, saying that GR = Zarathos, which to my knowledge is not so. Blaze/Zarathos seem to share a relationship similar to Strange/Zom or Cain/Cyttorak... one utilising power borrowed from another but also given to losing control over that power at any time should the entity choose to enter into proceedings.
I referenced the Nightmare - Hulk confrontation (there have been two, to my knowledge, both decisively won by Hulk) as an indication of how he has done against dimensional Gods. of course I do not know where Zarathos stands in relation to Nightmare, but I do know that Hulk literally ripped Nightmare's head right off, when he confronted him on Nightmare Island (Tempus Fugit arc), as well as the fact that Nightmare is scared of Hulk.
clearly, if Zarathos is of that scale then Hulk most certainly can hang with him, if not well there's little else to go by.
Originally posted by janus77
I was responding to your initial comment that GR "destroys" WWH, which you based upon a fairly ambiguous statement by Strange.it implied how GR was almost "boundless", I replied that I could show you scans stating that Hulk is "boundless"/limitless etc etc, but that it didn't mean GR would destroy Hulk (nor did I suggest the opposite).
you did retract the "destroy" comment but then went on the Zarathos tangent, saying that GR = Zarathos, which to my knowledge is not so. Blaze/Zarathos seem to share a relationship similar to Strange/Zom or Cain/Cyttorak... one utilising power borrowed from another but also given to losing control over that power at any time should the entity choose to enter into proceedings.
I referenced the Nightmare - Hulk confrontation (there have been two, to my knowledge, both decisively won by Hulk) as an indication of how he has done against dimensional Gods. of course I do not know where Zarathos stands in relation to Nightmare, but I do know that Hulk literally ripped Nightmare's head right off, when he confronted him on Nightmare Island (Tempus Fugit arc), as well as the fact that Nightmare is scared of Hulk.
clearly, if Zarathos is of that scale then Hulk most certainly can hang with him, if not well there's little else to go by.
The Strange/Zom and Cain/ Cytorrak are not the same. Both of these individuals only obtain a small fraction of their respective "gods" power, however Zarathos and Blaze are bound in the same body, essentially the same person, but when Blaze is in control he limits the amount of power they can use. Although he can let Zarathos take over and well, yea, the person they are fighting is pretty much screwed.
Originally posted by janus77
I was responding to your initial comment that GR "destroys" WWH, which you based upon a fairly ambiguous statement by Strange.it implied how GR was almost "boundless", I replied that I could show you scans stating that Hulk is "boundless"/limitless etc etc, but that it didn't mean GR would destroy Hulk (nor did I suggest the opposite).
you did retract the "destroy" comment but then went on the Zarathos tangent, saying that GR = Zarathos, which to my knowledge is not so. Blaze/Zarathos seem to share a relationship similar to Strange/Zom or Cain/Cyttorak... one utilising power borrowed from another but also given to losing control over that power at any time should the entity choose to enter into proceedings.
I referenced the Nightmare - Hulk confrontation (there have been two, to my knowledge, both decisively won by Hulk) as an indication of how he has done against dimensional Gods. of course I do not know where Zarathos stands in relation to Nightmare, but I do know that Hulk literally ripped Nightmare's head right off, when he confronted him on Nightmare Island (Tempus Fugit arc), as well as the fact that Nightmare is scared of Hulk.
clearly, if Zarathos is of that scale then Hulk most certainly can hang with him, if not well there's little else to go by.
yes GR=zarathos it just depends who is in control more...its always changing?...they r in a constant struggle over control nothing like the example u have said
nightmare is a lower class demon whos power diminishes an extreme amount outside of his realm so hulk beating him is not that impressive at all
zarathos is on mephistos level...which is a demon of the highest order...while nightmare is a class 3 i believe...and since we have just found out zarathos is an angel and the wrath of god, who knows what other powers he has
Originally posted by Mindset
The Strange/Zom and Cain/ Cytorrak are not the same. Both of these individuals only obtain a small fraction of their respective "gods" power, however Zarathos and Blaze are bound in the same body, essentially the same person, but when Blaze is in control he limits the amount of power they can use. Although he can let Zarathos take over and well, yea, the person they are fighting is pretty much screwed.
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