Originally posted by Ushgarak
That is an utterly contemptible and unintelligent way to represent the argument- the only laughable thing is your attempt to represent it that way. If you have nothing useful to add to the thread, DK, do not add anything at all.Despite people babbling on about what they thought, the evidence around here shows that the vast majority of people did not begin speculation on the film until the official annoucement in February. Even if you DID believe vague earlier rumours and decidded to onluy talk about them elsewhere and not here (rumours that were not really bellieved and were only right by circumstance, not by default, and there are plenty of such rumours that come along all the time that are simply wrong) it doesn't amount to having waited for two years. The whole point is that people are making reviews in which they are simply making up that there was some sort of long-awited hype mechanism behind this film because they get an adolescent enjoyment out of popping such a hype bubble, even if they had to make it up to do so. This is something I have not the slightest respect for and destroys the value of the review and opinion.
And so sorry you feel aggrieved, Sadako- but my position, and my opinion on what you say, remains exactly the same. No, I do not believe the story you got from DL, and in fact it is demonstrable that it was wrong, because we know for a fact that GL only started to plan a film AFTER the first few episodes were completed, which is way after whatever claim you are making. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you were fed bad info, and that is also a fact. That whole idea is completely wrong. There was no plan, there was no idea that got later picked up on. There was only a spontaneous decision by GL in the last half of last year. You might possibly have had some grounds to say that the series was being predicted there. But not the film that came out- not in any way, sense or form- because that was a spontaneous decision made years afterwards, that had nothing to do with any earlier ideas at all.
People can try and claim a pathetic monopoly saying that anyone whoi didn't know before February is not a hardcore fan, somehow. But it won't wash. People posting in these SW sections are as much fans as any of you are- some long before you were born- and for all of them the official announcement was the time the speculation began- as this very area shows. That is the proof and the fact of the matter. Barely anyone here cared about the November annoucement (not that you actually said anything until December, Nac)- that's how insiginificant it was. [b]Everyone
cared about the official February one.Bottom line- widespread speculation and analysis of the film only began in February after the official announcement. Fact. Only then did anything come out to look at, analyse, speculate about etc. Delude yourself otherwise if you wish. But the facts back me.
Nac said quite clearly he was waiting two years for this film. He was lying, and he did it because he wanted to sound cool in putting the film down. So no-one should forget what the base of all of this is- a silly lie by Nac to make up part of a rubbish review. If people make up lies in their reviews, then I am damn well going to point out that lie, repeatedly if I have to. I won't ever get tired of that, so best for Nac to just admit it.
No-one has actually and accurately been waiting two years for this film at all. No-one. People saying so are either lying or mistaken. Sorry- that's just so. GL himself was only waiting one year, because he only decided to start making it a year before its release, and even then he was not certain he would do it until months later, and that pretty much is where that argument ends. Any attempt to claim that you knew it would happen before GL did is plainly ludicrous. [/B]
You truly are unable to admit your wrong aren't you?
You said that NO ONE knew that the movie was coming. We proved you wrong!
When did I ever say that I was waiting two years for The Clone Wars MOVIE? I was referring to The Clone Wars in general. The whole approach was a let down!! However, you are right, since The Clone Wars was announced back in 05 I guess you could say I waited three years, not two, "GOD I'm such a liar!!!!" Quit defending crap like this, not everything George Lucas touches turns to gold!!!