Despero vs. Sentry

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I got to start reading Trinity.

It's a good read. Enigma, Morgan, and Despero are seeming to be far more powerful than thier counter parts.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's a good read. Enigma, Morgan, and Despero are seeming to be far more powerful than thier counter parts.
It sounds good, but Countdown's the only reason I haven't really read any.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's a good read. Enigma, Morgan, and Despero are seeming to be far more powerful than thier counter parts.

In which issues did Despero appear?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
It sounds good, but Countdown's the only reason I haven't really read any.

Countdown is being used in my rest room as toilet paper. Trinity is a much better read. has more mystery. And it's actually a cosmic story. It's got krona and despero and some wierd shit happening to one of the gl's. Konvict was uber and isn't out of the picture yet. And the art is sometimes good. At least the first half of the book. 2nd half looks like a 5 year old at wendy's on a happy meal drawing thingy.

Originally posted by Estacado
In which issues did Despero appear?

Off top of my head he's been in it since around the 3rd or 4th. Morgan and enigma needed a powerful alien for thier "trinity". He talked shit about the Superman and Wondy saying they weren't powerful at all. he's beaten them. He was actually talking about the trinity and batman. But batman isn't powerful anyway.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Don't.

Because I don't want to hear Carver's answer. 😐

Than just stick him ignore like I do.

Despero was rushed by Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Power Girl and Hourman at the same time and he put them all down.

WWH hasn't shown to have superior strength any of them (besides Hourman) and Sentry could only stalemate him.

Despero takes the majority.

even though its completely off topic, imo WWH has/had greater strength than any member of that^^ JLA roster, this is not to say however that he would be able to beat Despero especially in his prime for he is a beast

back on topic, Sentry sucks, he has yet to impress me in anyway whatsoever...he is too fickle to take on Despero

Despero 10/10 everytime

Despero wins.

In all fairness wouldn't it be a bad idea to mind rape Sentry? Wouldn't he become even more dangerous, if he lost control of his powers?

His manefestation of the Void was unaffected by some pretty powerful guys. Dr. Strange, Black Bolt and the Inhumans, Namor, Ironman and the Avengers, the Fantastic Four... all were unable to stop the manefestation that of the Void that Bob erected as a mental defense.

The Void was unaffected by their combined assault.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
In all fairness wouldn't it be a bad idea to mind rape Sentry? Wouldn't he become even more dangerous, if he lost control of his powers?

His manefestation of the Void was unaffected by some pretty powerful guys. Dr. Strange, Black Bolt and the Inhumans, Namor, Ironman and the Avengers, the Fantastic Four... all were unable to stop the manefestation that of the Void that Bob erected as a mental defense.

The Void was unaffected by their combined assault.

Despero in his prime would take out the Void too.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
In all fairness wouldn't it be a bad idea to mind rape Sentry? Wouldn't he become even more dangerous, if he lost control of his powers?

His manefestation of the Void was unaffected by some pretty powerful guys. Dr. Strange, Black Bolt and the Inhumans, Namor, Ironman and the Avengers, the Fantastic Four... all were unable to stop the manefestation that of the Void that Bob erected as a mental defense.

The Void was unaffected by their combined assault.

More like if Sentry's mind gets messed with he'll leave the fight like he's done before IMO.

I only read/seen the Void when Sentry first appeared and wasn't really that impressed. A bit of an anti-climax, weren't Spiderman, Cap taking the fight to parts of him?

Maybe the Void has done a lot worse that I haven't seen but i doubt someone above Superman in strength (I think) and who has crazy durability even by DC's standards will be too troubled.

Originally posted by The Pict
More like if Sentry's mind gets messed with he'll leave the fight like he's done before IMO.

I only read/seen the Void when Sentry first appeared and wasn't really that impressed. A bit of an anti-climax, weren't Spiderman, Cap taking the fight to parts of him?

Maybe the Void has done a lot worse that I haven't seen but i doubt someone above Superman in strength (I think) and who has crazy durability even by DC's standards will be too troubled.

You are referring to the CLOC incident that Ironman hacked into causing Sentry to lose control of his objective correct?

For some reason I just don't see Despero defeating the Void, but that is just my opinion as you have yours.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Despero in his prime would take out the Void too.

That is a bold statement, and one which is entirely up for debate. Despero does have more feats than the Void, but how would Despero hurt a being that he can not touch or affect? A being that broke every bone in the Hulk's body? Like I said no one can say for certain who would win, but stating things like Despero would win 10/10 against someone with Sentry's unique powerset looks like pure bias to me.

Genis Vell a true power house was unable to stop him, the Collective had to resort to cheapness to get Bob off of his case, Dr. Doom's ancient magics could not stop Sentry from breaching his defenses in 2 seconds, and was told by Stark prior to this that should Bob lose control he would kill him without even knowing he had done so, Containning a cosmic cube on durability and strength alone.

The Void as I pointed out resisted all that was thrown against him, and even though Captain America and Spiderman appeared to be "taking the fight to parts of him" as Pict mentioned, would have done nothing to stop a creature who could not even feel Colossus, Namor, and the Things blows... not to mention being completely resistant to Dr. Strange's magics, and Black Bolts screams.

didn't Black Bolt as a Skrull rip a section of the moon off the size on an island when he blasted King Hulk?

I am not saying who would win, but just giving the Sentry his props.

Despero took on the combined assault of the Jla and the Jsa that is enough to give him the win against Bob. Sure he the Sentry has some good feats but lets face it he can be hurt by brute force and if Despero can take it to the most powerful beings on Dc earth Bob has 0 chances of winning this. I am talking about Despero in his prime by the way.

When you say members of the JSA can you tell me which ones? Surely you are not saying KC Superman was part of this team? I can't launch a decent argument for the Sentry yet because all I see is him holding back. The Void is when he does not hold back, but there just isn't enough exposure on him to say anything, so all I can do is agree with you half way. I can't throw out the higher feats that the Senrty/Void has shown, and in an encounter with someone with Despero's powers he would bring the Void out of Sentry by mistake, by attempting to take him over, as he is so prone to do.

This battle has me stumped, but I will not blindly say that Despero would take the Sentry, because he has put down Superman.... The Sentry and Superman have very different powers. The only thing they have in common is that they can fly at light speed are durable as hell, and have super strength... but aside from that Sentry is a two in one character, and his darker side seems to be more willing to cut lose than the lighter side.

I can appreciate what you are saying because both of these teams alone (JLA/JSA) are nothing to take lightly, but the Void was also feared to be able to destory the entire marvel 616 Earth with or without all of it's Hero's trying to stop him.

What we have here is a connundrum, because unlike many people on KMC I believe that Marvel Heros are as powerful as their DC counterparts. 😐

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
What we have here is a connundrum, because unlike many people on KMC I believe that Marvel Heros are as powerful as their DC counterparts. 😐
Wouldn't that contradict your entire stance on this battle?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
When you say members of the JSA can you tell me which ones? Surely you are not saying KC Superman was part of this team? I can't launch a decent argument for the Sentry yet because all I see is him holding back. The Void is when he does not hold back, but there just isn't enough exposure on him to say anything, so all I can do is agree with you half way. I can't throw out the higher feats that the Senrty/Void has shown, and in an encounter with someone with Despero's powers he would bring the Void out of Sentry by mistake, by attempting to take him over, as he is so prone to do.

This battle has me stumped, but I will not blindly say that Despero would take the Sentry, because he has put down Superman.... The Sentry and Superman have very different powers. The only thing they have in common is that they can fly at light speed are durable as hell, and have super strength... but aside from that Sentry is a two in one character, and his darker side seems to be more willing to cut lose than the lighter side.

I can appreciate what you are saying because both of these teams alone (JLA/JSA) are nothing to take lightly, but the Void was also feared to be able to destory the entire marvel 616 Earth with or without all of it's Hero's trying to stop him.

What we have here is a connundrum, because unlike many people on KMC I believe that Marvel Heros are as powerful as their DC counterparts. 😐


Even if you believe marvel heroes are as powerful as thier dc counter parts, then you'd still have to give despero the win. He beats Teams of "Counter" Parts. And Despero has not only uber strength, Uber TP, and Teleportation powers as well. He'd just smash sentry. Unless you think Sentry can take the combined assault of captain marvel, power girl, superman, hawkman, wonder woman, and hour man. Even the rock of eternity was not enough to put Despero down.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Even if you believe marvel heroes are as powerful as thier dc counter parts, then you'd still have to give despero the win. He beats Teams of "Counter" Parts. And Despero has not only uber strength, Uber TP, and Teleportation powers as well. He'd just smash sentry. Unless you think Sentry can take the combined assault of captain marvel, power girl, superman, hawkman, wonder woman, and hour man. Even the rock of eternity was not enough to put Despero down.

i agree that despero would take this...but arnt sentry and the void equally as powerful as eachother?...cuz void took out a large amount of heroes without any effort...and if this is true then it might be a little closer of a fight then u think

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Wouldn't that contradict your entire stance on this battle?

Not really because I am unsure as to what Despero wold unleash if he attempted to take over Bob's mind.... I'm basically left with a big fat...?

Originally posted by bbrem123
i agree that despero would take this...but arnt sentry and the void equally as powerful as eachother?...cuz void took out a large amount of heroes without any effort...and if this is true then it might be a little closer of a fight then u think
No it's not a closer fight than I think. Because Superman has Taken on the JLA. And he's gotten pwned By Despero in like 2 punches.