Zoom vs Thanos.

Started by Galan0073 pages

Originally posted by janus77
the punches at C thing needs to be disregarded for the simple reason that any herald tossing any projectile at Thanos would be equivalent (infinite mass).

I don't think 200 Superman level punches would do much to Thanos, I think that's well within the range of an out to kill Odin blast or an angry Galactus blast.

i got this far, then realized there was no reason to read any further. no reason at all. none

wait a sec, if the speed force negates most of the rules of physics, how can any speedster perform infinite mass punches?

and how come those infinite mass punches don't follow the "for every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction"?

the speed force just cherry picks and pisses on physics

if Surfer spits at someone, whilst flying at C+ speeds, that spittle will have infinite mass too, for a few seconds.

IMP are just to be ignored, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
i got this far, then realized there was no reason to read any further. no reason at all. none

ok, just for the sake of debate, how strong are "superman level" punches?

what are we talking here, the kind of punches Zoom threw that Flash survived? the kind of punches that DD can take in their multitudes?

Wheres Quanchi when you need him 🙁

This is nonsense,

Thanos could definitely take his punches as well as Return The Damage, note the battle with his doppelganger created by the Magus to be MORE POWERFUL than the original.
He used his cosmic energy during that battle to boost both his Durability and Striking Force.

BTW he beat the doppelganger then proceeded to transmute his body into a butterfly, which he ate. He did this so that he could regain his lost thirst for knowledge he once had BEFORE the acquisition of the Infinity Gauntlet, and the Omnipotence that it brought.

Originally posted by Mr Marvel
This is nonsense,

Thanos could definitely take his punches as well as Return The Damage, note the battle with his doppelganger created by the Magus to be MORE POWERFUL than the original.
He used his cosmic energy during that battle to boost both his Durability and Striking Force.

BTW he beat the doppelganger then proceeded to transmute his body into a butterfly, which he ate. He did this so that he could regain his lost thirst for knowledge he once had BEFORE the acquisition of the Infinity Gauntlet, and the Omnipotence that it brought.

THIS.

Thanos's attributes are high as hell, and can be increased at will. Odin referred to Thanos' power as "limitless" and he's been upgraded since then.

all the IMP's and Superman level punches in the world aren't going to do a lot to a guy that hangs out in black holes and comes out with only scratches.

speed alone isn't going to take down thanos.

Superman hangs out in double black holes and doesnt even get scratches and a imp would still knock supes for a little loop at the very least.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
THIS.

Thanos's attributes are high as hell, and can be increased at will. Odin referred to Thanos' power as "limitless" and he's been upgraded since then.

all the IMP's and Superman level punches in the world aren't going to do a lot to a guy that hangs out in black holes and comes out with only scratches.

speed alone isn't going to take down thanos.

EXACTLY!!!

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Superman hangs out in double black holes and doesnt even get scratches and a imp would still knock supes for a little loop at the very least.

Superman can't increase his attributes by thinking about it. Thanos can. Imagine if Superman could "sundip" to boost his strength, speed, power, or durability instantly, and realize that Thanos CAN.

Thanos' shields have EASILY stood up to beings that can one shot a planet (Champ with gem, Thor with gem) or shatter galaxies (Odin) an IMP is well below both of these.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Superman can't increase his attributes by thinking about it. Thanos can. Imagine if Superman could "sundip" to boost his strength, speed, power, or durability instantly, and realize that Thanos CAN.

Thanos' shields have EASILY stood up to beings that can one shot a planet (Champ with gem, Thor with gem) or shatter galaxies (Odin) an IMP is well below both of these.

Galaxies? 😆 Odin hasn't put out power to destroy Galaxies for a lonnnng time. I doubt the blasts he sent at Thanos were of the Galaxy busting magnitude.

Thanos looked extremely, extremely, poor against The Runner...and that was with, what, 3 infinity gems already in his possession? Zoom is even quicker, and apparently stronger (the whole Superman-level punches thing).

I think Thanos goes down eventually.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos looked extremely, extremely, poor against The Runner...and that was with, what, 3 infinity gems already in his possession? Zoom is even quicker, and apparently stronger (the whole Superman-level punches thing).

I think Thanos goes down eventually.

eh, the runner has the same abilities thanos does re: amping via cosmic power, and his manipulation of those energies is >>> surfer's.

Runner has a lot more than just speed, plus runner had an infinity gem in that confrontation, increasing his speed to well...infinite levels.

not a poor showing at all, given the circumstances.

I know it wasn't a poor showing. I really think Thanos only has low showings when Squirrel Girl is around. I'm just saying, I don't think he's equipped to deal with incredibly fast beings...and Zoom is faster than most of the Flashes. And Flash > Runner (without gem...maybe with).

Originally posted by Enyalus
I know it wasn't a poor showing. I really think Thanos only has low showings when Squirrel Girl is around. I'm just saying, I don't think he's equipped to deal with incredibly fast beings...and Zoom is faster than most of the Flashes. And Flash > Runner (without gem...maybe with).

eh, no one's "faster" than runner with the space gem. Per thanos runner was subconciously bending space with it to arrive at places before he even knew he wanted to be there.

it's not even a speed feat- space/time are essentially meaningless with it.

as for runner vs. flash- it's hard to say since there's never been a limit set to runner's speed. there is no speed force in marvel, but runner can easily go many, many MANY times FTL under his own power. at those kinds of speeds (and surfer's been shown to do what...hundreds or thousands of times the speed of light via hyperspace? and runner is faster?) "who's faster" becomes a moot point.

but I'm off topic. you can't compare how Zoom vs. Thanos would do by bringing up runner, since

1.) Zoom is a time manipulator, and runner is sheer speed
2.) Zoom ISN'T virtually indestructible
3.) Zoom doesn't have cosmic energy or psychic manipulation abilities
4.) Zoom isn't running around with an infinity gem

runner would be on a completely different level, imho.

SPITE in favor of Zoom.

Since by default KMC rules, both are bloodlusted,
Zoom would be at MAX speed.

He'd punch Thanos a million times before Thanos gets his shields up.
And yes, those punches are stronger than Superman's.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
SPITE in favor of Zoom.

Since by default KMC rules, both are bloodlusted,
Zoom would be at MAX speed.

He'd punch Thanos a million times before Thanos gets his shields up.
And yes, those punches are stronger than Superman's.

not necessarily, since you need to determine:

1.) are thanos' shields typically up by default? with certain other characters (strange, juggernaut) the answer is yes. With Thanos? who knows?

2.) are even superman level punches enough to take out Thanos? he's taken hits from cosmic level beings that are far stronger with little difficulty. Even warrior madness thor (that's thor with strength X10) with the power gem (incalculable) was unable to KO a thanos that had no prep.

2b.) in Zoom's fight with wonderwoman, he hit an amazon 200 times in a second. but yet, that amazon was still alive. I'm willing to bet that generic amazon's durability is nowhere near Thanos' level. an instant KO by Zoom to someone who HAS taken infinite mass attacks (look up "black holes"😉 isn't very likely.

3.) Thanos can teleport himself or others with and without tech, and as mentioned before in this thread unleash omnidirectional blasts easily capable of taking out someone of Zoom's durability level.

it's far from open and shut.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
not necessarily, since you need to determine:

1.) are thanos' shields typically up by default? with certain other characters (strange, juggernaut) the answer is yes. With Thanos? who knows?

2.) are even superman level punches enough to take out Thanos? he's taken hits from cosmic level beings that are far stronger with little difficulty. Even warrior madness thor (that's thor with strength X10) with the power gem (incalculable) was unable to KO a thanos that had no prep.

3.) Thanos can teleport himself or others with and without tech, and as mentioned before in this thread unleash omnidirectional blasts easily capable of taking out someone of Zoom's durability level.

it's far from open and shut.


1. No

2. No, but Zoom punches, which are stronger than Supes punches, can.

3. Since when did Thanos unleash these so-called 'omnidirectional blasts'? For Pete's sake, that's not even in his basic powerset.

And Thanos fans, please stop adding amps to Thanos, since the thread starter never mentioned additional gear for Thanos.
There are limitations for being a fanboy or girl.

Nonetheless, Zoom omfgwtfpwns Thanos.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
1. No

2. No, but Zoom punches, which are stronger than Supes punches, can.

3. Since when did Thanos unleash these so-called 'omnidirectional blasts'? For Pete's sake, that's not even in his basic powerset.

And Thanos fans, please stop adding amps to Thanos, since the thread starter never mentioned additional gear for Thanos.
There are limitations for being a fanboy or girl.

Nonetheless, Zoom omfgwtfpwns Thanos.

1.) No? that's pretty quick for someone who isn't aware that:

2.) Thor's punches and attacks were >>>>>> Superman attacks, since they were combined with warrior madness and the power gem. still insufficient to KO thanos. I don't see Zoom hitting as hard as a power gem wielding God.

3.) Thanos has massive cosmic energy manipulating abilities, on par or greater than Surfer's. an omnidirectional blast is CERTAINLY within his power set.

4.) Thanos' "amping" abilities are also common knowledge. as pointed out in this thread he used them vs. his doppleganger. Hell, almost ANY cosmic manipulator can amp his/her power levels with cosmic energy.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
1.) No? that's pretty quick for someone who isn't aware that:

2.) Thor's punches and attacks were >>>>>> Superman attacks, since they were combined with warrior madness and the power gem. still insufficient to KO thanos. I don't see Zoom hitting as hard as a power gem wielding God.

3.) Thanos has massive cosmic energy manipulating abilities, on par or greater than Surfer's. an omnidirectional blast is CERTAINLY within his power set.

4.) Thanos' "amping" abilities are also common knowledge. as pointed out in this thread he used them vs. his doppleganger. Hell, almost ANY cosmic manipulator can amp his/her power levels with cosmic energy.


1. 😬

2. Superman >>>>>> Thor

3. 👇

4. assno