Originally posted by The Great GalenOrion was at his normal power levels when he beat Darkseid which proved Orion could beat Darkseid when they were both at normal power levels but imo Orion has no chance against Thanos who shreds top tiers.
Well considering Orion will have his astrol harness and he will be at the level he was at during prophecy I dont know....can Thanos really beat a herlad of the source?
Orion would be no different than the Silver Surfer going up against Thanos here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Orion was at his normal power levels when he beat Darkseid which proved Orion could beat Darkseid when they were both at normal power levels but imo Orion has no chance against Thanos who shreds top tiers.Orion would be no different than the Silver Surfer going up against Thanos here.
You do realize a normal power DS is skyfather right, what u basically impied was that Orion at his normal level is skyfather as well. Besides unlike SS, Orion has the actual combat speed and H2H ability to take it to Thanos. Not to mention he has held back agaisnt a enraged supes....the same enraged supes could solo'ed the JL.
Originally posted by tdawg14
This is a stomp in the worst way. Anyone giving Orion a win is a complete fanboy.
Orion is peers with Superman in speed,strength,durability with even greater h2h skills and no weakness. The last time we saw Orion the man was a freaking monster. Added with his astrol harness, this fight is a very even contest IMO.
Originally posted by The Great GalenImo Darkseid is a top tier. He cant seem to beat other top tiers either.
You do realize a normal power DS is skyfather right, what u basically impied was that Orion at his normal level is skyfather as well. Besides unlike SS, Orion has the actual combat speed and H2H ability to take it to Thanos. Not to mention he has held back agaisnt a enraged supes....the same enraged supes could solo'ed the JL.
You really think an enraged Superman could solo the jla? Based on?
Unless you have anything further to add Thanos wins here and most agree with me.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Imo Darkseid is a top tier. He cant seem to beat other top tiers either.You really think an enraged Superman could solo the jla? Based on?
Unless you have anything further to add Thanos wins here and most agree with me.
it was a enraged Supes that was being manipulated, he was also sun amped. Supes took out the JL and was then confronted by Orion who stalemated him untill Supes was blind sided with the mega rod which then allowed Orion the free hit that put Supes down for a bit. Keep in mind that he was sun amped so his durability,strength and speed where all inreased and unlike the scarifice fight agaisnt WW, Supes was fighting smart...at least smart enough to take out the JL. Oh and need I remind you of this""I must now wield my astro force with surgical precision, it's power can shatter worlds. I only want to stun him with it" Orion has to essentially hold himself back out of fear of killing SUpes.
As far as DS only be top tier......http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/FofF-076-04.jpg
Keep in mind Brimstone beat Firestorm, Cosmic Boy and the Justice League.
Originally posted by The Great GalenId like to see the scans when Superman supposedly beat the jla. I have had differently. Please refer the issue number to me so i can see for myself because as I understood it he didnt defeat them at all.
it was a enraged Supes that was being manipulated, he was also sun amped. Supes took out the JL and was then confronted by Orion who stalemated him untill Supes was blind sided with the mega rod which then allowed Orion the free hit that put Supes down for a bit. Keep in mind that he was sun amped so his durability,strength and speed where all inreased and unlike the scarifice fight agaisnt WW, Supes was fighting smart...at least smart enough to take out the JL. Oh and need I remind you of this""I must now wield my astro force with surgical precision, it's power can shatter worlds. I only want to stun him with it" Orion has to essentially hold himself back out of fear of killing SUpes.As far as DS only be top tier......http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/FofF-076-04.jpg
Keep in mind Brimstone beat Firestorm, Cosmic Boy and the Justice League.
Ds wasnt always a top tier and used to be a lot more powerful as your scan shows. But recently before fc he was downplayed into a top tier more than a few times.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
You do realize a normal power DS is skyfather right, what u basically impied was that Orion at his normal level is skyfather as well. Besides unlike SS, Orion has the actual combat speed and H2H ability to take it to Thanos. Not to mention he has held back agaisnt a enraged supes....the same enraged supes could solo'ed the JL.
I agree that Darkseid might be in the skyfather class, but I don't see him in the same "class" of Odin, DP Tyrant, Zeus, Zuras and... Thanos.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I agree that Darkseid might be in the skyfather class, but I don't see him in the same "class" of Odin, DP Tyrant, Zeus, Zuras and... Thanos.
DS easily has feats to put him on par with all those just mentioned, plus regardless of watever underwhealming showings he might have had in recent times it still doesnt negate his status. Thanos has yet to create a being like styne or match a opponent like high father.
Originally posted by The Great GalenWhat does creating a being have to do with anything?
DS easily has feats to put him on par with all those just mentioned, plus regardless of watever underwhealming showings he might have had in recent times it still doesnt negate his status. Thanos has yet to create a being like styne or match a opponent like high father.
What has High Father done?
Originally posted by quanchi112
What does creating a being have to do with anything?
Thanos has created Omega and some badass clones. I am referring to the Thanos clone that took Thor on and the one from Celestial quest.What has High Father done?
Wasn't Omega web slinged in the eyes by Spidey.....oh and the means of creation were quite different. Thanos used his tech while DS created Styne under his own power. Anyhow are you honestly unfamiliar with High fathers powerset....Takion was a prjection of his power and look how ubber he was.