Sorceress Ultimecia Vs. Sorcerer Malygos

Started by Dark-Jaxx4 pages

Originally posted by Becci
And I assume that you can prove the compression are two seperate spells?

And how exactly does she destroy the world?

I will look for the proof on the TC thing, but as far as Adel goes, it is not said, though it can be assumed to be through something along the lines of a Meteor or Meteor Shower, like all Sorceresses, Adel's magic tends to focus on a specific element or type of damage, Adel's being power, often using spells involving Quakes or Meteors.

Key words = Magic, Element, Spells 😛

Just looked it up, Ultimecia actually only began absorbing all of time and existence after transforming into her true form as proven by scanning her in the game, it is in her respect thread, first page.

I've read her respect thread. I'm not the kind of person that debate without reading up 😛

...Well I literally cannot post links or copy text, so I can't actually show you it lol.

I wish I were joking.

Dark-Jaxx. Just stop arguing witht hem. You wont detour their desicion. These are people who dedicated months upon months of playing this MMORPG. It has ruined relationships, education, sexual intercourse, body figures for them. So they are going to hold up all their characters on a plateu of BS. And when u actually do prove it wrong they are going to ignore it, say its not true, and that doesn't imply.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Dark-Jaxx. Just stop arguing witht hem. You wont detour their desicion. These are people who dedicated months upon months of playing this MMORPG. It has ruined relationships, education, sexual intercourse, body figures for them. So they are going to hold up all their characters on a plateu of BS. And when u actually do prove it wrong they are going to ignore it, say its not true, and that doesn't imply.
...Dude, shut up. 😐

That is a very stupid stereotype. I will have you know Becci is quite bright the many times I have seen her post, and is very attractive as well. So your spamming and insulting post is not only against the rules, but it is entirely wrong as well.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...Dude, shut up. 😐

That is a very stupid stereotype. I will have you know Becci is quite bright the many times I have seen her post, and is very attractive as well. So your spamming and insulting post is not only against the rules, but it is entirely wrong as well.

Speaking from personal experiences. And Have nothing against Becci. Read the past 2 pages. And the point of your time compression and reality absorbing has literally gone no were. Simply stated rudely that your not going to get your point across.

Csdabest, please don't insult others. It's pretty foolish to assert negative gamer stereotypes in the games forum, y'know?

Originally posted by Csdabest
Dark-Jaxx. Just stop arguing witht hem. You wont detour their desicion. These are people who dedicated months upon months of playing this MMORPG. It has ruined relationships, education, sexual intercourse, body figures for them. So they are going to hold up all their characters on a plateu of BS. And when u actually do prove it wrong they are going to ignore it, say its not true, and that doesn't imply.

I'm just going to go ahead and report that. It's offensive behaviour, somewhat baiting (A bait which I'm taking) and just plain rude.

I'll have you know that I am in good physical health, sexual intercourse is not a problem, my grades are exceptional, and I dont play World of Warcraft.

Now, to remain on topic. What exactly, of all the things I've said, is considered BS? And where have we been rude? I cant seem to find any rude posts until you came into the thread.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Speaking from personal experiences. And Have nothing against Becci. Read the past 2 pages. And the point of your time compression and reality absorbing has literally gone no were. Simply stated rudely that your not going to get your point across.

The reason that his point of time and reality compression has litteraly gone nowhere, is because it is very questionable. There's nothing rude about questioning an ability when it comes to a versus thread between two characters. I'm not going around calling you rude just because you're asking what abilities a character has.

I think that you just don't find this a debatable matter. If you don't, then stay out of the thread and let those willing to debate, debate. I believe that Malygos can defeat just about any character that rely on magic. Your job, as a believer in Ultimecia, is pretty much to prove me wrong. So excuse me for asking questions, or get outa the thread.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Speaking from personal experiences. And Have nothing against Becci. Read the past 2 pages. And the point of your time compression and reality absorbing has literally gone no were. Simply stated rudely that your not going to get your point across.

Maybe was his compression points not sufficient enough to not be questioned? Then again, little is when Becci is involved 🙄 My point is: Either you take some debating lessons, some ethic lessons and some KMC member lessons, or you just shut the fluck up [Do note that Fluck is not a cuss-word].

Because if you had done your research, you'd know that Becci does not play World of Warcraft, AND you would have known that Malygos is not a World of Warcraft character, so it wouldnt matter how much time one spent in World of Warcraft. Wow, didnt you make a fool out of yourself right there? 😛

Now: Malygos could block Ultimecia from using magic at all. What would possibly stop Malygos from creating a zone where Ultimecia can cast no spells, while Malygos goes all out, litteraly erasing existance where she goes, while she only can rely on her physical strength? ermm

Ah, and the only rude person I see around here is you.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Dark-Jaxx. Just stop arguing witht hem. You wont detour their desicion. These are people who dedicated months upon months of playing this MMORPG. It has ruined relationships, education, sexual intercourse, body figures for them. So they are going to hold up all their characters on a plateu of BS. And when u actually do prove it wrong they are going to ignore it, say its not true, and that doesn't imply.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Speaking from personal experiences. And Have nothing against Becci. Read the past 2 pages. And the point of your time compression and reality absorbing has literally gone no were. Simply stated rudely that your not going to get your point across.

Bullshit senses.. tingling.. must.. resist.. fighting.. back.. *runs*

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]Now: Malygos could block Ultimecia from using magic at all. What would possibly stop Malygos from creating a zone where Ultimecia can cast no spells, while Malygos goes all out, litteraly erasing existance where she goes, while she only can rely on her physical strength? ermm

Ah, and the only rude person I see around here is you. [/B]

I doubt that, how could an inferior magic user block out a much superior one's magic?

That's like saying he could block out Spectre's power of Mr. Mxy's power.

However, how can Malygos defeat any magic user Becci?

On what are you basing his inferiority? Her ability to compress Time and Reality? Malygos is a very complicated character to bring into a debate between two magical users. His ability to block magic in more than one way, shared with his ability to lock various characters out of their magical powers make him a very though opponent.

Since Malygos might has never been overriden by any other than Neltharion /w Demon Soul (Under which state Malygos was weakened, and the same time, the Demon Soul which empowered Neltharion held a portion of Malygos power), it is hard to imagine him lose against magical users at relatively earthly level. I am aware of Ultimecia's compression ability and that it is anything but earthly, but she is in an earhtly league. It's not like she's a Spectre or a Mr. Mxy.

In Warcraft, magic is not always dependant on who is stronger. Magic is of a whole different reach there. Illidan was able to ward his mind from Sargeras, while in fact Illidan is not even a match for the Titan. Sylvanas was able to silence Dar'Khan, who had the power to kill her with a flick of his finger.

Even if Ultimecia is more powerful than Malygos, it is not sufficient proof that she could resist his ability to block her access to magic. Has Ultimecia shown any type of resistance that you can use as an argument in benefit of her against the mightly silence of Malygos?

Originally posted by Csdabest
Speaking from personal experiences. And Have nothing against Becci. Read the past 2 pages. And the point of your time compression and reality absorbing has literally gone no were. Simply stated rudely that your not going to get your point across.

Because we know a lot about the lore of WoW, that means that we're sexually deprived, we have no social life, etc?

I won't even bother to go into a rant on how ridiculously idiotic this statement is, so I'll just hand you a nice big warm cup of "STFU" and "GTFO".

Obviously the man doesnt know what he is talking about, so dont give him more attention than he deserves.

Originally posted by Becci
On what are you basing his inferiority? Her ability to compress Time and Reality? Malygos is a very complicated character to bring into a debate between two magical users. His ability to block magic in more than one way, shared with his ability to lock various characters out of their magical powers make him a very though opponent.

Since Malygos might has never been overriden by any other than Neltharion /w Demon Soul (Under which state Malygos was weakened, and the same time, the Demon Soul which empowered Neltharion held a portion of Malygos power), it is hard to imagine him lose against magical users at relatively earthly level. I am aware of Ultimecia's compression ability and that it is anything but earthly, but she is in an earhtly league. It's not like she's a Spectre or a Mr. Mxy.

In Warcraft, magic is not always dependant on who is stronger. Magic is of a whole different reach there. Illidan was able to ward his mind from Sargeras, while in fact Illidan is not even a match for the Titan. Sylvanas was able to silence Dar'Khan, who had the power to kill her with a flick of his finger.

Even if Ultimecia is more powerful than Malygos, it is not sufficient proof that she could resist his ability to block her access to magic. Has Ultimecia shown any type of resistance that you can use as an argument in benefit of her against the mightly silence of Malygos?

1. She can absorb all of time and reality. She has the powers of at least a sizable amount of all the Sorceress' in history, she is able to possess powerful Sorceress' like Edea or even Adel while not even being in the same time period. She was literally able to pull from the protagonist Squall's mind Griever, which in his mind was a mighty lion who was the ultimate Guardian Force(of course when he said it it was more of a metaphor), give it a physical form and powers, and created the most powerful GF in FFVIII. She was even able to survive Time Compression without the power of Love and Friendship!!! dur Those are just some feats I can think of.

2. Ultimecia was able to absorb all of reality, and that is not the Time Compression ability, she only needed TC to bring all time in one singular moment so she could absorb it all. Hell, I would bet money that Classic Dr. Strange(he MAY need some prep) could beat Malygos.

3. Wasn't Sargeras like...Pretty much dead? Or sealed or sumthin...

4. Well, in-game she is immune to silence spells I think, which seal the ability to use magic.

Becci, I just found out an interesting piece of info that requires bumping of this thread, Ultimecia HAS to have the power of every Sorceress that has ever existed, for one simple reason, she is the only living Sorceress in her time.

When a Sorceress dies, she has to pass her power on to someone, whoever the power is passed onto becomes a Sorceress.

Ultimecia is the only Sorceress left, so all Sorceress Powers have been passed onto her.

So all Sorceresses in FF share this fluent bond that spreads the more they are, and thins the less they are? So the next sorceress would get Ultimecia's powers?