Blade runs a Weapon X gauntlet

Started by DestinyGuy6785 pages

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Everyone on this list other than Native if more skilled than Blade.

He may have had 100 years training, but that training was not as formal or intense as most on this list.

Zero, is skilled to the point he can fight alongside and keep up with Sabretooth and Wolverine, without weaponry.

Deadpool has taken down Wolverine, who was 100+ experience in years, including 2 world wars and martial arts mastery.

Add to that the fact Deadpool is virtually unkillable (the guys been liquefied), and it's near impossible to take wolverine and Tooth down for longer than a minute, and it doesn't look good for blade.

To take Wolverine down with a bullet you without being gutted you need to have Bullseye/Taskmaster accuracy, and put a bulletin his eye at the right angle so it bounces around his skull and KO's him.

The same with Sabretooth if he has Adamantium. If Sabes doesn't have Adamantium his HF goes through the roof and multiple headshots probably wouldn't do the job.

.....so you judge skill basedo nwho they fight?

blads has faught dracula whose older than all of them.

blade faught wolverine in an intended stalemate, but I dont want the scans debated again. Not to mention in the wolverine series wolverine kinda beat on deadpool (deadpool "won" because wolverine took a fall on purpose" daken whooped al lover deadpool though

because blade hasnt faught these people is horribl e proof for skill.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not arguing whether Wolverine should have or should not have gone down. Nor am I making the argument as to how his HF should have or should not have handled it... Though having half of your neck sawed into should and would certainly cause far more blood loss far faster than many of the other neck injuries Wolverine's sustained in the past including having the front of his thraot slit.. but either way it doesn't matter... Wolverine's HF isn't what's being debated here so don't twist things around...

*sigh* I know you're not arguing for his HF, but forget it. I see you really didn't understand what im saying.

Originally posted by jinzin

The fact of the matter is that one guard made the assumption that he could cut Adamantium with Adamantium before he started trying. When his blade got stuck he also ASSUMED that it failed because it "got stuck"... yet his friend there also states that's not the reason for the failure rather that it's due to Wolverine's skeleton hence the "nah" statement on his part... It got "stuck" on Wolverine's skeleton because it couldn't cut through it simple as.

You think the guards hyborbole takes precidence over facts? Then Wolverine's the best there is with no arguments about it.. 😐

Um the thing got busted because of wolverines bones but that doesn't mean that it didn't cut through it. The guards thought that it did. You were not there and you did not attempt to cut his head off therefore their opinion takes precedents over yours.

Originally posted by jinzin

It's like you've never seen a Sabretooth/Wolverine/Silver Samurai speed feat in your life. 🤨

Er yeah but you don't know wether they can reach the speeds at which that thing was going. Also they were wearing guardsman armour which has been classifed as giving you 40 ton strength. Sabre, Wolverine, Cyber and SS maybe be able to match that speed but they don't have 40 ton strength.

Originally posted by jinzin

That was ALSO supported by on panel evidence... Is this? No...
That was ALSO supported by evidence preceding and coming after said incident... Is this? No...
That was ALSO referenced at least 2 more times during the story.... Is this? NO!

So... on one hand there's empiracle evidence leading one to a reasonable conclussion, on the other there's hyborbole backed by not one piece of existing evidence to date.... Guess it's no surprise to see which side of this fence your on. 😉

Forget it.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
.....so you judge skill basedo nwho they fight?

blads has faught dracula whose older than all of them.

blade faught wolverine in an intended stalemate, but I dont want the scans debated again. Not to mention in the wolverine series wolverine kinda beat on deadpool (deadpool "won" because wolverine took a fall on purpose" daken whooped al lover deadpool though

because blade hasnt faught these people is horribl e proof for skill.

He isn't talking about Origins, which is horrible writing.

Originally posted by Mindset
He isn't talking about Origins, which is horrible writing.
horrible writing or not its just as credible.

Originally posted by jinzin
And Sabretooth well... He'd probably lose. He has no ranged weaponry and his CIS would have him trying to draw out the fight for fun.. So even if he did get an advantage he'd still probably get gutted, stabbed, or just generally owned with the Muramasa before the fight was over.
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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*sigh* I know you're not arguing for his HF, but forget it. I see you really didn't understand what im saying.
that's what happens when you lose trains of thought Alf. 😬

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Um the thing got busted because of wolverines bones but that doesn't mean that it didn't cut through it. The guards thought that it did. You were not there and you did not attempt to cut his head off therefore their opinion takes precedents over yours.

No.

Correction: One guard THOUGHT he could cut through Adamantium...before he tried.

He made no assertion that he DID manage to cut it just that he thought he could.

The other guard thought he couldn't/didn't when his blade failed AFTER trying... So... I wasn't there, you weren't there and the only guy who made a statement about whether or not the buzzsaw did it's job against the Adamantium, stated that it didn't. 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Er yeah but you don't know wether they can reach the speeds at which that thing was going. Also they were wearing guardsman armour which has been classifed as giving you 40 ton strength. Sabre, Wolverine, Cyber and SS maybe be able to match that speed but they don't have 40 ton strength.

True enough, so speed is inconsequential then.

And as for strength... well.... this is a good point. However since there's no evidence that shows that admantium can cut adamantium backed by strength.. well.... it's still nothing more than speculation... so..... speculation.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
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This is to say that Sabretooth even if he has an advantage in a fight with Blade using the Muramasa, would still take time to gloat, or play with Blade, or trash talk just because that's what his character dictates him to do so he's doomed whether he's physically capible of negotiating the blade or not simply because at one point or another he'll let his guard critically down.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the common vampire has great feats. speed blitzing spiderman, sneaking up on black panther, causing spiderman and luke cage to struggle (one of the moverpowered spiderman)

the common vampire isnt weak at all.

also blade is probably one of the most skilled on the list next to wolverine and sabretooth. Hes had about 100 year t otrain or little bit more

also the psidemran feat according to spiderman he was still in control and was trying to escape he was stil just as strong and as fast, and blade managed to throw spiderman back and shoot him i nthe kneecaps

Having sheer speed or strength may be nice additions to joe shmoe but they don't make up for something as extensive as sheer skill on the weapon x level.. Every member of the organization as proven this along with others of similar background like Captain America by taking down faster, stronger, more powerful opponents on a daily basis. 😬

Want to know what Vampires don't have? One decent feat against an X agent sans classic Dracula of course. Wolverine's killed them in droves and beat one of their Demon Gods on Wendigo level, and DP took em to town in an alternate reality.

If you don't want to debate the blade Wolverine fight you shouldn't bring it up.
And Spiderman remembering what happened afterwards doesn't mean he was anywhere near in control... Same thing happened with Wolverine when he was bit. 😐

Originally posted by jinzin
This is to say that Sabretooth even if he has an advantage in a fight with Blade using the Muramasa, would still take time to gloat, or play with Blade, or trash talk just because that's what his character dictates him to do so he's doomed whether he's physically capible of negotiating the blade or not simply because at one point or another he'll let his guard critically down.
oh I thought you were talking about blade, my bad

Originally posted by jinzin
Having sheer speed or strength may be nice additions to joe shmoe but they don't make up for something as extensive as sheer skill on the weapon x level.. Every member of the organization as proven this along with others of similar background like Captain America by taking down faster, stronger, more powerful opponents on a daily basis. 😬

Want to know what Vampires don't have? One decent feat against an X agent sans classic Dracula of course. Wolverine's killed them in droves and beat one of their Demon Gods on Wendigo level, and DP took em to town in an alternate reality.

If you don't want to debate the blade Wolverine fight you shouldn't bring it up.
And Spiderman remembering what happened afterwards doesn't mean he was anywhere near in control... Same thing happened with Wolverine when he was bit. 😐


wolverine and them fight no name vampires though.

Blade take out the stronger vampires, THeir have been vampires stronger than luke cage.

Plus in their talk Spiderman admitted he "still had his wits about him," he put it above all else to get out of the school before he hurt someone. when blade stood in his way, he attacked him. Blade was able to throw spiderman back and immobilize him quite easily.

a regular spiderman was taken out by the same vampire that blade had beaten easily as well (mainly because both didnt realize said vampire was a vampire until it attacked, blade reacted, spiderman didn't)

and Blade and these vampires rarely venture outside of their own little ongoing battle. I mean has any weapon x person been able to hold spiderman down like a baby or outmuscle luke cage? Not to mention sneaking up on blakck panther, whose senses are just as good as wolverines.

and an alterante reality is an alternate reality and shouldnt be brought up.

Well another thing blade has impeciable aim when it comes for going for that heart (as well as extremely powerful guns) he hits all of these people in the heart (holy water merely burns vampires, immersion in it will turn them to dust, but not a a mere spray)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeandSpidey2.jpg
so if blade managed t ohit them theyd be immobolized (maybe noy deadpool or sabretooth)

also I noticed something wrong in your respect thread, or unless I think so.

you said wolverine healed from the vampire bite, wasnt that because dr. strange or someone broke the spell? YOu see everyone else coming out of their transformation too.

Lulz at Jinzin owning bitches left and right.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
horrible writing or not its just as credible.
It may be credible, but depending on what occasion he was talking about it has no relevance, so...

Originally posted by Mindset
It may be credible, but depending on what occasion he was talking about it has no relevance, so...
the person who is writing blade right now said he got his info from wikipedia 🙁. I doesnt mean we can throw feats out, I mean wolverine has been put down by bullets to the head several times currently it may be horrible writing but it is consistant.

Originally posted by Soljer
Lulz at Jinzin owning bitches left and right.

He's kicking ass and taking names?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the person who is writing blade right now said he got his info from wikipedia 🙁. I doesnt mean we can throw feats out, I mean wolverine has been put down by bullets to the head several times currently it may be horrible writing but it is consistant.

Did you not understand any of my post?

I believe Deadpool will give Blade a hard time. 4/10

Musa blade discontinue healing abilities...so the rest is gonna get beaten by Blade Swordmenship, cept Deadpool !

Originally posted by jinzin
that's what happens when you lose trains of thought Alf. 😬

I can't be bothered to argue.

Originally posted by jinzin

The other guard thought he couldn't/didn't when his blade failed AFTER trying...

Didn't you read the scan I posted? So you think the other guard who said wolverines head was hanging by a thread thought that it couldn't cut through his spine? Hell you probably own the comic AND I have posted the scan as well, and you're telling me the other guard thought it didn't cut through his spine? Incredible, your saying the complete opposite of what the guard indicated.

Originally posted by jinzin

True enough, so speed is inconsequential then.

And as for strength... well.... this is a good point. However since there's no evidence that shows that admantium can cut adamantium backed by strength.. well.... it's still nothing more than speculation... so..... speculation.

Um jinzin this example is different from the other examples you have given. In this example with adamantuim we have superhuman speed and alot more physical force, in the other examples you have speed but alot less physical force. In this examples the adamantuim is being applied in a way which would do more damage.

The evidence is this example. 😐

However from the scans it looks as if the other guard was not in a position to clearly see what happened. So im going to say its hyperbole but for that reason.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
wolverine and them fight no name vampires though.

Funny thing about that.... So does Blade. 😐

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Blade take out the stronger vampires, THeir have been vampires stronger than luke cage.
So sheer strength makes a good opponent? Do I even need to open that bag of worms? One word.... Hulk. 😐

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Plus in their talk Spiderman admitted he "still had his wits about him," he put it above all else to get out of the school before he hurt someone. when blade stood in his way, he attacked him. Blade was able to throw spiderman back and immobilize him quite easily.
before he hurt someone... Because he wasn't in his right mind.
Notice how he said nothing when fighting Blade.
If he had his wits about him the way Spiderman should, wouldn't reason be his first plea? What about trash talk?
Yeah.... he didn't....

What happened the one time Blade and Spidey have gone toe to toe while Spiderman wasn't influened by vampirism? I seem to recall Blade getting the crap webbed outa him. 😐

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
a regular spiderman was taken out by the same vampire that blade had beaten easily as well (mainly because both didnt realize said vampire was a vampire until it attacked, blade reacted, spiderman didn't)
ABC doesn't always work. Kitty Pride has a better chance at taking down Magneto than most X-Men do, doesn't mean she's a better shot at taking down Wolverine in a 1 on 1 who's nothing but Magneto's plaything quite literally.

Or we could just go on about all the opponents that Spiderman's taken care of that far far farrrrr exceed that particular vampire in powers, strength, speed, durability, etc etc..... and call it a low showing.... And before you do that... remember for two seconds that Spiderman's kicked the ass of half the Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and Blade and these vampires rarely venture outside of their own little ongoing battle. I mean has any weapon x person been able to hold spiderman down like a baby or outmuscle luke cage? Not to mention sneaking up on blakck panther, whose senses are just as good as wolverines.

Sabretooth overpowered Luck Cage in his third appearance. Wolverine has pounced on Spiderman in about 4 or 5 of their encounters. Sabretooth's had him at his mercy 2 times while Spiderman had backup to boot.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and an alterante reality is an alternate reality and shouldnt be brought up.
fair enough