Entronpy Vs. Destruction (The Endless)

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
That deck of cards were able to stalemate Lucifer Morningstar himself! fear

Originally posted by Galan007
imo, the basanos were a smidge more powerful than lucifer.

So Destiny is above Lucifer, or possibly even Michael??

No, that would be ABC logic.
Then again, maybe not.

He allowed Meleos an angel to read some of it and create a living Tarot deck to duplicate Destiny's book, they control probability, making whatever outcome they desire not only likely, but inevitable. I wouldn't say they are more powerful then Lucifer but the chances he has against them is very slim until he has to put all of his effort into getting rid of them and that is something to say indeed..

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
So Destiny is above Lucifer, or possibly even Michael??

Originally posted by kevdude
He allowed Meleos an angel to read some of it and create a living Tarot deck to duplicate Destiny's book, they control probability, making whatever outcome they desire not only likely, but inevitable. I wouldn't say they are more powerful then Lucifer but the chances he has against them is very slim and that is something to say indeed..

As a general rule, I think "godlike beings" are more dangerous than the gods themselves.

Characters like the Endless are bound by rules and destiny and philosophical musings that don't seem to make sense to outside observers, whereas if you give a mortal being the power of one of them, they can just go buck-wild with it.

Originally posted by Galan007
in the conceptual sense, yes.

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Anyway, Destruction wins this fight

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
But Michael is the demiurge of God's creation?
And Lucifer is God's will?

Originally posted by Galan007
yet they are still nothing but stories in destiny's book. 😉

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Correct. Even in the Lucifer series, Lucifer was bound by Destiny's book.

How can Lucifer be bound by Destiny's book if he escaped the plan laid out for him by the Presence? Isn't that the same thing as escaping his Destiny?

Anyway, Entropy will win this. In Brief Lives, Destruction says that no Endless can survive the end of the universe, while Entropy has the power not only to survive it but to bring it about.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How can Lucifer be bound by Destiny's book if he escaped the plan laid out for him by the Presence? Isn't that the same thing as escaping his Destiny?

Originally posted by Galan007
escaping that plan, was his destiny. 🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
I thought the Presence's plan was the same thing as destiny...

Originally posted by Galan007
i know, but it sounded good lol. in all honesty, we know for a fact that lucifer was, at least at one point, bound by destiny's book - as every action lucifer made whilst visiting destiny, was part of the book's story. so...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah but that was before the Presence asked to merge with him right? The Presence wanted to merge with Lucifer because he had gone outside of the Presence and gone beyond him, so clearly something happened in between.

Originally posted by Galan007
so one must wonder if a 'new' destiny was fashioned when lucifer did this? or if he's completely dentiny-less? meh, toss a coin lol.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
He created The Basanos??
That deck of cards were able to stalemate Lucifer Morningstar himself! fear

they feared lucifer, they used a under hand tactic which was set into motion way earlier in the series, to use lucifer's own power against himself later.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't know. Lucifer has the same free will as God himself so it makes sense that he is without Destiny.

you are correct, in the lucifer series he states that the endless have no authority over him, and death replies that she knows that.

Question: Has Marvel Entropy ever been seen on panel? If so, what issue(s)?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Question: Has Marvel Entropy ever been seen on panel? If so, what issue(s)?