Originally posted by Badabing
I still hate using crossovers. Just my imo though.
I liked this particular story. It was a great read IMO and it gauged the powerlevels pretty descent again IMO.
But yeah crossovers in general tend to favor the writer's favorite characters so it's good that almost all of them are not canon.
Originally posted by comicfan11
I liked this particular story. It was a great read IMO and it gauged the powerlevels pretty descent again IMO.But yeah crossovers in general tend to favor the writer's favorite characters so it's good that almost all of them are not canon.
Originally posted by comicfan11
Marvel hasn't used it yet.
But since the Cosmic egg exists in the DCU the story of it's creation is the one from JLA/Avengers.
And in these issues Supes beat Thor, meaning that it actually happened.Plus members from both companies admit it's the only canon intercompany crossover.
Both companies can use elements from that story if they want. Marvel just hasn't done it yet.
Thor did mention that he has Superman's measure though.
Originally posted by llagrok
Thor did mention that he has Superman's measure though.
That doesn't change the fact that the score between them is still 1-0 in favor of Superman.
Saying something doesn't make it fact.
In a recent Trinity issue WW said she is faster than Supes although all of their common history suggest differently.
Or Namor claiming that he is stronger than Herc despite being proven wrong.
Originally posted by comicfan11No offense but the book itself was horribly inconsistent.
That doesn't change the fact that the score between them is still 1-0 in favor of Superman.Saying something doesn't make it fact.
In a recent Trinity issue WW said she is faster than Supes although all of their common history suggest differently.
Or Namor claiming that he is stronger than Herc despite being proven wrong.
Thor goes from being able to take a twin shot from Martian Manhunter and Superman. To where Superman clocks him once and it's over. Plus as I've stated numerous times if you want to use this comic as evidence for that fight. Then there is a whole floodgate to opened to other characters.
Such as Wonder Man beating Green Lantern.
Originally posted by Newjak
No offense but the book itself was horribly inconsistent.Thor goes from being able to take a twin shot from Martian Manhunter and Superman. To where Superman clocks him once and it's over. Plus as I've stated numerous times if you want to use this comic as evidence for that fight. Then there is a whole floodgate to opened to other characters.
Such as Wonder Man beating Green Lantern.
Non taken.
But the fact remains that it is canon.
Plus Supes and Thor fought for many panels it wasn't like Supes oneshot him or anything.
And although I think that Hal or John would take a majority from Simon I can see him giving a fight to a non-ION Kyle.
On the other hand Hawkeye KOing Cap Atom with a lead arrow made me laugh for a long time...
Originally posted by comicfan11It was for many panels. I think the point was that Thor wouldn't or hasn't gone down that easy. The fight itself was too short for a consistent accurate gauge or sweetness level of a fight these two would have.
Non taken.But the fact remains that it is canon.
Plus Supes and Thor fought for many panels it wasn't like Supes oneshot him or anything.And although I think that Hal or John would take a majority from Simon I can see him giving a fight to a non-ION Kyle.
On the other hand Hawkeye KOing Cap Atom with a lead arrow made me laugh for a long time...
And as made mention before Thor did say he had taken the measure of Superman. When Thor does that he doesn't lie about it.
My personal take on the fight was that it showed whoever stopped holding back the quickest would be the one that would win.
And Green Lantern wasn't just fighting or being given a fight he was being dominated by WM.
And there were many such moments like that. 😄
Originally posted by Newjak
It was for many panels. I think the point was that Thor wouldn't or hasn't gone down that easy. The fight itself was too short for a consistent accurate gauge or sweetness level of a fight these two would have.And as made mention before Thor did say he had taken the measure of Superman. When Thor does that he doesn't lie about it.
My personal take on the fight was that it showed whoever stopped holding back the quickest would be the one that would win.
And Green Lantern wasn't just fighting or being given a fight he was being dominated by WM.
And there were many such moments like that. 😄
Yes it was clear that Kyle would lose if not for Supes help.
And I also believe the Thor/Supes fight intended to show that these two are veeeery close. I think in the end Supes status as the flagship of DC comics combined with his higher feats (planet moving, black holes, etc) gave him the win.
I don't say that Thor can't win some from Supes, I just pointed that last time they fought (and only) Supes was the clear winner.
Originally posted by comicfan11You mentioned the black hole, planet moving thing but that was pre-crisis superman whom thor would have had NO CHANCE against, this was really the weakest version of superman that thor fought or at least close to the weakest.
Yes it was clear that Kyle would lose if not for Supes help.
And I also believe the Thor/Supes fight intended to show that these two are veeeery close. I think in the end Supes status as the flagship of DC comics combined with his higher feats (planet moving, black holes, etc) gave him the win.I don't say that Thor can't win some from Supes, I just pointed that last time they fought (and only) Supes was the clear winner.
Originally posted by AvlonI don't know. While Superman's durability is > than Thor's over all. One thing I think Thor can do better than Superman is take a hit that effects him and just keep on coming.
Going froom the little shown so far...Atlas destroys Thor.. at least physically.
While Atlas could win physically I think Thor would make it a battle. As to who wins. Thos has better verastility then atlas as shown so far, and has far more options to deal with him then Superman. The first being of course BFR.