Emma Frost vs. Mr. Sinister

Started by Charlotte DeBel3 pages

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Is this current Emma Frost?
Emma takes this without a sweat.

Current Sinister was also be established as a top five telepath...so it's not all clean and dry. BTW, was done... and me and Exodus Cloak have a long drawn out debate with Emma haters.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=490385&highlight=title%3A(Emma+vs+Sinister)

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Current Sinister was also be established as a top five telepath...so it's not all clean and dry. BTW, was done... and me and Exodus Cloak have a long drawn out debate with Emma haters.

Meh I wouldn't call them Emma haters, I'd just say that people never read New Mutants Volume 1.
Emma was established as Xavier level, heck they even used the words Xavier Level. The problem is she rarely showed it because her appearances as a Villian were only a handful and in Gen X she did at times take a back seat. That's not say she didn't have grand assed feats back then, it's just that she never did as often as she does these days due to Gen X being a satellite book.

In short it's wrong of people say oh she should never be able to that when in actual fact Miss Emma Grace Frost was originally created to be a foil to Mr. Charles Francis Xavier. And when she was created she had all these little narrator boxes saying how great she was but she rarely ever got into the position where she needed to show off grand assed feats because she was never an X-Men before Morrisons run.

And yes it's been done.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Meh I wouldn't call them Emma haters, I'd just say that people never read New Mutants Volume 1.
Emma was established as Xavier level, heck they even used the words Xavier Level. The problem is she rarely showed it because her appearances as a Villian were only a handful and in Gen X she did at times take a back seat. That's not say she didn't have grand assed feats back then, it's just that she never did as often as she does these days due to Gen X being a satellite book.

In short it's wrong of people say oh she should never be able to that when in actual fact she was originally created to be a foil to Charles Francis Xavier. And when she was created she had all these little narrator boxes saying how great she was but she rarely ever got into the position where she needed to show off grand assed feats because she was never an X-Men before Morrisons run.

And yes it's been done.

true, she was xavier level, just not as refined as he was.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Meh I wouldn't call them Emma haters, I'd just say that people never read New Mutants Volume 1.
Emma was established as Xavier level, heck they even used the words Xavier Level. The problem is she rarely showed it because her appearances as a Villian were only a handful and in Gen X she did at times take a back seat. That's not say she didn't have grand assed feats back then, it's just that she never did as often as she does these days due to Gen X being a satellite book.

In short it's wrong of people say oh she should never be able to that when in actual fact Miss Emma Grace Frost was originally created to be a foil to Mr. Charles Francis Xavier. And when she was created she had all these little narrator boxes saying how great she was but she rarely ever got into the position where she needed to show off grand assed feats because she was never an X-Men before Morrisons run.

And yes it's been done.

Some people just can't stand Emma "getting into position Jean was supposed to get into"... BTW, your bets on X-Men Legacy 216? Mine is honorous stalemate...

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Is this current Emma Frost?
Emma takes this without a sweat.

By doing what to him?

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Some people just can't stand Emma "getting into position Jean was supposed to get into"... BTW, your bets on X-Men Legacy 216? Mine is honorous stalemate...

Possibly but Emma may be using Cerebra so it could really end up with her violating him awfully, checking that there's no Mr. Sinister and then Cyclops kicks him to the curb which will force him to continue his story and find Wolverine.

Solicits for 217 possible hints:

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=10019p

To be honest though I'm more interested in that tart Mercedes. Is she Lourdes sister?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Possibly but Emma may be using Cerebra so it could really end up with her violating him awfully, checking that there's no Mr. Sinister and then Cyclops kicks him to the curb which will force him to continue his story and find Wolverine.

Solicits for 217 possible hints:

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=10019p

To be honest though I'm more interested in that tart Mercedes. Is she Lourdes sister?

Seeing what Cerebra-less Emma was able to do...can agree with you. Though we'll see... hopefully what we see won't spoil my tournament progress (I've drafted Emma as a "flagship character" of my team in Ill's tourney).

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Seeing what Cerebra-less Emma was able to do...can agree with you. Though we'll see... hopefully what we see won't spoil my tournament progress (I've drafted Emma as a "flagship character" of my team in Ill's tourney).

When does the tourney start, the Illuminaughty comes out in January I think? And Fraction said Ems is getting another Mini in 2009.

There should be more feats in UXM #503 as well if that really is Madelyne Pyor.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
When does the tourney start, the Illuminaughty comes out in January I think? And Fraction said Ems is getting another Mini in 2009.

There should be more feats in UXM #503 as well if that really is Madelyne Pyor.

The first match is sheduled on 15 September. That would include epic current Emma vs non-Phoeinx Jean showdown...

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
The first match is sheduled on 15 September. That would include epic current Emma vs non-Phoeinx Jean showdown...

Ah well on the brightside at least you'll be able to get X-Men: Secret Invasion #2 to find out the rest about the Skrull Thought Wall.

BTW I haven't been able to find the OHOTMU Vol 4 at my comic book store.
So I ordered it it'll only come at the end of September but I really don't have the patience to wait.
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=9403

Maybe it's a new Jean clone, Sinister usually has a spare around somewhere.

But I must say a Maddie/Emma cat fight would be fun to watch.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Maybe it's a new Jean clone, Sinister usually has a spare around somewhere.

But I must say a Maddie/Emma cat fight would be fun to watch.

The problem is I actually feel sorry for Madelyne. Meh then again it could be Firestar but the women clearly used telekinesis so I'm really not sure.

I feel bad for her too, but I like her better as the bad Jean.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I feel bad for her too, but I like her better as the bad Jean.

Too bad Havok's in space, sleeping with your brothers ex-wife is frowned upon in some societies.

I'm suprized a bit, I thought they were trying to redeem Maddie in the X-Man/Cable appearances.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Ah well on the brightside at least you'll be able to get X-Men: Secret Invasion #2 to find out the rest about the Skrull Thought Wall.

BTW I haven't been able to find the OHOTMU Vol 4 at my comic book store.
So I ordered it it'll only come at the end of September but I really don't have the patience to wait.
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=9403

If I stumble upon it, I'll upload the Emma-related bio scans for sure.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I'm suprized a bit, I thought they were trying to redeem Maddie in the X-Man/Cable appearances.

Who knows it may not be her at all. If she really wanted revenge why now?
Although the solicits for UXM #504 really hint that it is Maddie, as after their encounter with Empath and Red Queen there is a strain on Emma and Cyclops relationship and Emma books into a hotel.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
If I stumble upon it, I'll upload the Emma-related bio scans for sure.

Cool thanks.

Before Emma was barely a match Jean, who in turn wasnt a match for Charles without her whole Pheonix force. Its poor continuity for the writers to just up and decide that the X-men need a better telepath. If Colossus leaves the team, will Wolverine suddenly be able to lift 100 tons?

Originally posted by redhotrash
Before Emma was barely a match Jean, who in turn wasnt a match for Charles without her whole Pheonix force. Its poor continuity for the writers to just up and decide that the X-men need a better telepath. If Colossus leaves the team, will Wolverine suddenly be able to lift 100 tons?
you better put on your heat suit, EC and CDB are going to flame you.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Before Emma was barely a match Jean, who in turn wasnt a match for Charles without her whole Pheonix force. Its poor continuity for the writers to just up and decide that the X-men need a better telepath. If Colossus leaves the team, will Wolverine suddenly be able to lift 100 tons?

Pray tell when did Jean sans Phoenix Force and Emma ever face off for you to make such a bold statement? Because you seem to know of an issue that I don't and I'd certainly love to add that arc/issue/run to my collection.