Gaara vs. Sandman

Um dude...

Sasuke would wreck Spiderman.

I'm just gonna be frank about that.

The Amaterasu would one hit Spidey, and is too fast and subtle to dodge, he literally just has to look at you and you will be covered in black flames.

Tsukiyomi is not so much an illusion as it is an actual attack on your mind.

Susano would keep Sasuke protected from all damage and would kill Spidey.

Plus, Sasuke has t3h uber haxx.

But you are right on one thing, the only characters who can move faster than sound are guys like Madara, who do so with Time/Space Ninjutsu.

And PK...She was clearly holding the knife. She just let go and dropped it on him.

Also...The dagger is smaller than I remember it. 😐

I wouldn't even say it is 50 tons.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight

Kakashi told him what to do in his mind.

A suggestion is not necessarily telling someone what to do. And Zabuza was already hysterical at that point.

The Amaterasu would one hit Spidey, and is too fast and subtle to dodge, he literally just has to look at you and you will be covered in black flames.

I don't think it's impossible to dodge. As the latest chapter showed, the amaterasu does not just burst into flames onto people. It literally travels at them, just at an enormous speed. If it travels at someone I don't think it's out of the question for the spidersense to help Peter dodge it.

Really? It traveled? Cause frankly...I do not remember it doing so. haermm

But Sasuke still has t3h uber haxx. 131

I wouldn't even say it is 50 tons.

That's because you're wrong.
It's over 50 tons.

No it isn't.

It was only like 30 feet.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Um dude...

Sasuke would wreck Spiderman.

I'm just gonna be frank about that.

The Amaterasu would one hit Spidey, and is too fast and subtle to dodge, he literally just has to look at you and you will be covered in black flames.

Tsukiyomi is not so much an illusion as it is an actual attack on your mind.

Susano would keep Sasuke protected from all damage and would kill Spidey.

Plus, Sasuke has t3h uber haxx.

But you are right on one thing, the only characters who can move faster than sound are guys like Madara, who do so with Time/Space Ninjutsu.

And PK...She was clearly holding the knife. She just let go and dropped it on him.

Also...The dagger is smaller than I remember it. 😐

I wouldn't even say it is 50 tons.

completely wrong on the last count. ther IS plenty of cannonical evidence that narutoers move WELL above the speed of sound. remember the sound nin in the the forest of death in the chuunin exam. the clearly siad that their attacks were the speed of sound and SUPRASSED rock lee's speed under wights at THAT time. but immedietly afterwards, sasuke posessed for the VERY first time by the partial curse seal level one, was able to take himself/naruto/sakura to a distance much further than the oncoming sound speed attack by one of the sound nin. {in the time it took for the ound to reach his location, he had already moved to another loactin, carrying two people, much FURTHER than the distance between him and the attacker. making him CLEARLY above the speed of sound} that was a long time ago when sasuke was very slow and weak. and even then he was beyond sound speed. lee with his gates open is very SIGNIFICANTLY above sound speed.

bunta's knife less than fity tons?!?!?!?!?! LMAO!!!!

spidey can beat rock lee?!?!!?!?!? LMAO!!!!!!!!!! ur HIGH!!!!!!!

spidey isnt faster than bullets by a LONGSHOT. his spider sense is PRECOGNITION, it doesnt depend on whether the bullet it fired, it JUST tells him vaguely of any significant happening a set amount of TIME before it happens, {e.g. the time the bullet it about to HIT him is more importnat than when the bullet was fired, since depending on the distance, it cud hit him immedietly or after a couple of seconds} thats how he dodges even vastly fast attacks.

spidey is inferior by almost degrees of magnitude, in speed, relflexes, strength, agility and battle prowess than sum1 ike rock lee. add to that chakra, and hes done for.

Thank you for bringing the canon speed of sound source I knew it was their but I rarely have to defend an argument like this to need proof. I would just think it's a given. Plus i'm not as good as cataloguing comics and mangas as these guys. I too watch and read a lot of both to the point where i don't even remember when things happen just that they have happened. If I had to remember every manga and comic fact from the things I've read I would have no space left for anything else. I guess just knowing and not being able to remember where from is not a good trait to bring to these conversations.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the clearly siad that their attacks were the speed of sound and SUPRASSED rock lee's speed under wights at THAT time. but immedietly afterwards, sasuke posessed for the VERY first time by the partial curse seal level one, was able to take himself/naruto/sakura to a distance much further than the oncoming sound speed attack by one of the sound nin. {in the time it took for the ound to reach his location, he had already moved to another loactin, carrying two people, much FURTHER than the distance between him and the attacker. making him CLEARLY above the speed of sound} that was a long time ago when sasuke was very slow and weak. and even then he was beyond sound speed. lee with his gates open is very SIGNIFICANTLY above sound speed.

Conclusion 2: Rock Lee has never canonically shown the ability to move this fast, even with the gates. No Naruto character that I can think of has, outside of using a teleportation-esque jutsu like the body flicker.

Pwned again. haermm

Sawsgay used Shuishion (sp?) which is a jutsu in the form of high-speed burst that looks like teleportation. The sound ninja use sound jutsu that move as fast as sound by your own admission. None of them can actually move as faster or even as fast as sound.

Keep trying. Your fail attempts are laughable.

spidey isnt faster than bullets by a LONGSHOT. his spider sense is PRECOGNITION, it doesnt depend on whether the bullet it fired, it JUST tells him vaguely of any significant happening a set amount of TIME before it happens, {e.g. the time the bullet it about to HIT him is more importnat than when the bullet was fired, since depending on the distance, it cud hit him immedietly or after a couple of seconds} thats how he dodges even vastly fast attacks.

Spidey is inferior by almost degrees of magnitude, in speed, relflexes, strength, agility and battle prowess than sum1 ike rock lee. add to that chakra, and hes done for.

Too bad I've already posted scans showing Spidey's spider sense reacting after the bullet is fired, not before, which means his reflexes are bullet speed. Go address each scan I posted SCAN FOR SCAN and stop ignoring every argument that ****s your fanboy spiels up or shut up.

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Lol.

It's so cute to see Blax get worked up when someone disses Spiderman.

Actually I thought like Leon did about the thing with the sound ninja and Sasuke.
However it was Zaku who attacked Sasuke, not Dosu. Dosu actually manipulated sound but Zaku's power was to control air pressure. By controlling air he destroyed boulders and creatires fissures in the ground. His technique was named Supersonic blah blah or whatever but there's no proof for that being the case.

I have been fiending to get online and post that all day. You sir, are a bastard.

Um the sharingan can control people and even summons.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/363/12/

pyron, DOSU said that "OUR attacks are sound speed and surpass yours" not HIS, but "OUR". zaku has a combination of BOTH shockwaves{which are supersonic} and wind pressure.

nonsenei, body flicker ISNT teleportation, its actual movement, space time jutsus are atcual teleportation, and even naruto in his one tail form without body flicker was travelling faster than sasuke using body flicker, infact he was seen moving so fast that an incoming log was burned to ashes just by the wind resistant around him due to his speed. and this is way back before shippuden. stop being an absolute idiot.

i dont have to address PIS scans, unless ofcourse we start accepting from now on that black panther can take on silver surfer's speed and reflexes, being only a human?!?!?!? or he had the strength to rip his arm off. there are scans of wolverine reacting to teleportation before it happened. its all PIS. understand.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
[B]pyron, DOSU said that "OUR attacks are sound speed and surpass yours" not HIS, but "OUR". zaku has a combination of BOTH shockwaves{which are supersonic} and wind pressure.

A) Our doesn't have to enbody all three of them. Two of them used sound, one doesn't. Even then, Dosu is a 3rd party fallible character, he's not omniscent. They have machines that can measure the speed of their attacks or something?

nonsenei, body flicker ISNT teleportation, its actual movement,

That is a jutsu. The very fact that it's not a constant mvoement but merely a short burst of movement is proof that that is not their actual movement speed.

and even naruto in his one tail form without body flicker was travelling faster than sasuke using body flicker,

Prove it.

infact he was seen moving so fast that an incoming log was burned to ashes just by the wind resistant around him due to his speed. [/quuote]

Prove it was his movements that were nto doign that, not the chakra that constantly eminates from him when he's in semi-Kyuubi form. If that was his normal movement speed then he would always do that when he moved in a fight. That only happened once.

[quote]i dont have to address PIS scans,unless ofcourse we start accepting from now on that black panther can take on silver surfer's speed and reflexes, being only a human?!?!?!? or he had the strength to rip his arm off. there are scans of wolverine reacting to teleportation before it happened. its all PIS. understand.

You're an idiot. Prove it's PIS. Just because you ***** about something doesn't make it fact.

Assklown, there really is no reason to get so worked up over what Leon says.

Do what I do. Point and laugh.

a} when a team captain says "we" do you instantly go fto "it must mean only a few and not all??????" unless mentioned otherwise, 'WE' stands for EVERY1 in the team. that is the most reasonable stance to take. also, there is no evidence to back the fact that dosu was LYING? hence no reason to question his "imnisciene"{stupid argument really}. they dont have machines, dosu relies on pure sound which is ofcourse the speed of sound, the girl relies on bells to CREATE sound for genjutsu, so naturally thats sound speed, and the third guy uses SHOCKWAVES, which by their nature are atleast equal to the speed of sound but usually supersonic. to know the type of attack they are using is based on the said phenomenon, tells them without having to measure that they are the speed of sound and above.

b} body flicker isnt a jutsu, it doesnt require seals or chakra. its just a way to move that most ninjas learn, and even then, there are those whose movements are faster than it. and there are those who have continued on those speeds for long periods e.g. 1 tail naruto,

c} proven by the fact that sasuke with body flicker cudnt keep up with the speed anymore specially when naruto was creating water spouts around him just by running

d} im an idiot? have you even made a single argument of your OWN or attempted to counter mine? havent u just been giving one liner replies and asking other to PROVE it when it is clear to any child with a brain that the argument has already proven it??? you obviously have no idea wat PIS is.

I love how we have animations of both naruto and spider-man showcasing the speed of both characters in motion. I bet if you were to ask any marvel writer if the cartoons and movies give a good portrayal of how quick spider-man is they would say yes. Yet online spider-man is some speed of light moving God? Also Jaxx and clown what's with the piggy backing between the two of you? If you have nothing to add don't come post foolishness trying to provoke people. It's like you two are joined at the hip, grow up.

Gaara Bijuu would take control over Sandmans sand considering he powers rain from a chkra monster that seen as a sandgod. I dont think Sandman can do much if Gaara turns into the beast.