see? silly boys cant discuss a serious issue. go watch x factor
kidrock, there is still an invasion on the cards. whats that got to do with this thread though?..oh yeh
and dadumon if people are willing to be mature about things i would of given the authors name. you and a few others have just proved why i was right in not doing so
robtard..you're a voter arent you?
Originally posted by Deano
and dadumon if people are willing to be mature about things i would of given the authors name. you and a few others have just proved why i was right in not doing so
Ahhhh. What you just did is the classic definition of "illogical". Not citing your work has nothing to do with how immature people treat YOU as an individual. It's called professionalism. You saw how easy it was to figure out who the author was.
If you'd like to be taken more seriously, you should probably cite your work instead of passing it off as your own. If you have an anecdote or story and you'd like to protect the identity of the person providing the information, then you STILL have to cite that much. Otherwise, it is just immature plagiarism.
Also, I'm better at football(yes, soccer) than you are.
comon no way am i passing the newsletter off on my own. your and idiot for thinking so. this is just a forum and im passing on information. make of it what you will. but dont derail the thread. cheers
and people treat these things immaturely because they are scared that they might of been lied to all there life. tis easier to look the other way and take the piss isnt it?
oh and anytime you wanna prove that you are better at football than me, i'll be more than willing to prove you wrong 🙂
robtard..why do you vote? do you really think there will be change? its a scam mate
Originally posted by Deano
robtard..why do you vote? do you really think there will be change? its a scam mate
Is there merit in thinking that choosing leaders is done by the few instead of the masses? Yeah, I think there some truth to that.
Look at the two U.S. candidates, Obama and McCain, they were not the best of either group, yet the media and the powers that be built them up so they'd be the final two. So in part, our choice was made for us, imo. But voting does matter in the bigger scheme of things.
But that's a far cry from 'ancient brotherhoods of reptilian overlords controlling humanities’ destiny'. Besides, what will not voting accomplish?
Originally posted by dadudemon
If you'd like to be taken more seriously, you should probably cite your work instead of passing it off as your own.Also, I'm better at football(yes, soccer) than you are.
I don't think Deano was trying to pass it off as his own, he omitted the author because of the stigma associated with and he wanted people to read it objectively. (He should have cited it though)
I doubt it, roids wreak havoc on your heart (among other parts/systems), so your cardio is probably shit.
Originally posted by Deano
comon no way am i passing the newsletter off on my own. your and idiot for thinking so. this is just a forum and im passing on information. make of it what you will. but dont derail the thread. cheersand people treat these things immaturely because they are scared that they might of been lied to all there life. tis easier to look the other way and take the piss isnt it?
I know you aren't trying to pass it off as your own(Despite what I've previously stated), however, you didn't cite your post. In an academic or professional setting, that's plagiarism, regardless of intentions. I'm sure Robtard has nicely hit your reasons right on the head.
Originally posted by Deano
oh and anytime you wanna prove that you are better at football than me, i'll be more than willing to prove you wrong 🙂
I was just joking. I know you're good at football. I played for four years but got tired of it.
Originally posted by Robtard
I doubt it, roids wreak havoc on your heart (among other parts/systems), so your cardio is probably shit.
I fully agree that my cardio is shit. However, it's not because of roids because I've never taken those. And roids do not wreak havoc on your heart, for the most part. If you cycle properly with via injections (Because the oral steroids place a strain on the liver.), roids can be taken quite safely and effectively. Now, this is fact.
I was with soccer as you were with roids. Well played.
Originally posted by Robtard
Is there merit in thinking that choosing leaders is done by the few instead of the masses? Yeah, I think there some truth to that.Look at the two U.S. candidates, Obama and McCain, they were not the best of either group, yet the media and the powers that be built them up so they'd be the final two. So in part, our choice was made for us, imo. But voting does matter in the bigger scheme of things.
But that's a far cry from 'ancient brotherhoods of reptilian overlords controlling humanities’ destiny'. Besides, what will not voting accomplish?
if there is an hidden group of rich men controlling all opposition, then what will voting accomplish?
voting would work if the above wasnt happening
it doesnt matter who is in power. the same agenda carrys on just the same. its the same in england. its so boviosu and yet people continue to look the other way
The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." Frank Zappa, musician and culturaliconoclast
Originally posted by Deano
if there is an hidden group of rich men controlling all opposition, then what will voting accomplish?voting would work if the above wasnt happening
it doesnt matter who is in power. the same agenda carrys on just the same. its the same in england. its so boviosu and yet people continue to look the other way
Key word in that is if.
There's no reason to believe it's true in the extent you believe it is. But at least it's more plausible than that lizard-men bit. Hypothetically speaking, what is to be done if what you believe is true?
You didn't really answer my question, Deano. If you're correct, then voting doesn't matter, so while useless, it is also harmless in practice. If you're wrong, not voting could be potentially harmful. Look at the 2000 U.S. election, people who would vote Democratic are more likely to put off voting, especailly the younger groups.
Originally posted by Robtard
Key word in that is if.There's no reason to believe it's true in the extent you believe it is. But at least it's more plausible than that lizard-men bit. Hypothetically speaking, what is to be done if what you believe is true?
You didn't really answer my question, Deano. If you're correct, then voting doesn't matter, so while useless, it is also harmless in practice. If you're wrong, not voting could be potentially harmful. Look at the 2000 U.S. election, people who would vote Democratic are more likely to put off voting, especailly the younger groups.
you only have to look at what some politicians have hinted at throughout history. there is a rich group of people more powerful and controlling than the government itself.
remember your great president JFK once tryed to tell us of the dangers of secret societys. he was the last true great leader. but he didnt play along and he got killed for it. here was his speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY&feature=related
what is there to do you say? wake up, inform others,and then you can spot the lies more easier. then it is only obvious what to do
and i suggest you look at what mr rockerfeller said to aaron russo
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609
Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.' -
Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom (1913)
"The world is governed by people far different from those imagined by the public." - Benjamin Disraeli, Victorian-era Prime Minister of Britain
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." -- Felix Frankfurter, United States Supreme Court Justice
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, it was planned that way." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt
Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INvisible government owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul this unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today." President Theodore Roosevelt, 1906
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besides these quotes there is tons of evidence to suggest an hiddin hand controlling everything. Voting is pointless. time to wake up