Originally posted by The PictWW Hulk beat them so badly,that they couldnt stop him. The heroes stopped Konvikt. WW Hulk released and then let the heroes stop him. Key difference.
He didn't destroy them, he beat them and in the end WWH was put down by a plot device, Just like Konvikt. But plot device or no WWH still lost. Just Like Konvikt.Difference is the Heroes Konvikt beat were vastly more powerful than the ones WWH faced. And Konvikt never drained himself. And his most powerful opponents were going almost all out, not casually chatting.
I disagree. Strange,Sentry,Juggernaut,etc. Powerhouses.
Characters talk when they fight. 😂 Thats a desperate argument.
WW Hulk at the end of the book was far too powerful for Konvikt.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Could Konvikt beat up Juggernaut physically?
Again, based on what? Zom/Strange let himself get beaten, WWH did nothing besides BFR to the Juggernaut and Black Bolt was a skrull.The rest of the people WWH swept aside were nothing compared to the ones Konvikt handled.
Konvikt for the slim majority.
Sentry....pssssssst....Sentry.
Strange/Zom struggled for control and then was owned.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33A few questions, my brain today has been put through the ringer today, so apologies in advance if these were answered already. But has it been shown when Black Bolt was actually replaced? And either way, wasn't the Skrull Bolt pretty strong in New Avengers: Illuminati #5?
Again, based on what? Zom/Strange let himself get beaten, WWH did nothing besides BFR to the Juggernaut and Black Bolt was a skrull.The rest of the people WWH swept aside were nothing compared to the ones Konvikt handled.
Konvikt for the slim majority.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Again, based on what? Zom/Strange let himself get beaten, WWH did nothing besides BFR to the Juggernaut and Black Bolt was a skrull.The rest of the people WWH swept aside were nothing compared to the ones Konvikt handled.
Konvikt for the slim majority.
I think Zarathos could give Konvikt a hard time. And WW Hulk survived battle with him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Could Konvikt beat up Juggernaut physically?Sentry....pssssssst....Sentry.
Strange/Zom struggled for control and then was owned.
When did hulk beat up juggs physically I saw three blows from juggs and one from hulk then they locked up.Xavier distracted jugg's (outside interference) and he got thrown into a lake.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech2 punches. One of them, both of them are in shadow, so it's easy to miss. He was also further denting his helmet with applied pressure.
When did hulk beat up juggs physically I saw three blows from juggs and one from hulk then they locked up.Xavier distracted jugg's (outside interference) and he got thrown into a lake.
Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk wasnt injured at all. he said he didnt have all day,and clearly bfr'd Juggs. Easy as pie.
Not injured, Juggs was drawing blood, whereas Cain himself was the one uninjured. You said WWH owned Juggernaut but I guess you're backpedling now because you know you're wrong and just going with the bfr'd win (because he knew he couldn't beat Juggernaut.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk wasnt injured against Zom,then he paused,then Hulk owned him. Hulk would weather his storm easily,while the same cannot be said of Zom/Strange.
He WAS injured against Zom. So saying he would whether the storm is complete rubbish and full of Hulk bias. Hulk was getting his ass handed to him, until Strange took back control he didn't touch Zom and was knocked halfway across the city.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Konvikt couldnt even keep Supes down. WW Hulk would have broken Supes. He would have stayed down.
Absolute nonsense, and based on zero evidence. Hulk doesn't have a strength or Durability feat Supes couldn't match, plus in the WWH arc Hulk's durability was laughable, and his best feat was fighting Sentry where he promptly drained himself and had to learn of Miek's betrayel to once again turn into HUlk.
Evidence of Hulk being hurt by Zom. This is what happened in the comic, Quan, where we get our facts from.
Body covered in bruises, skin ripped off his shoulder and he's down on his knees.
Originally posted by quanchi112Strange/Zom struggled for control and then was owned.
Zom didn't struggle for control against WWH, he hammered him. WWH didn't touch Zom he was knocked clear across the city, brought to his kness, his stomach and back torn open my Zom's energy.
It wasn't until Strange regained control did Hulk have a chance at winning, or in fact even landing a punch.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
2 punches. One of them, both of them are in shadow, so it's easy to miss. He was also further denting his helmet with applied pressure.
Ok I believe I see where he further dents the helmet right before the headbutt by juggs, I dont know about the punch in the shadows though you cant really tell if it connected.
Originally posted by The PictSingle step, while trying to restrain his strength and nearly sinking the Eastern seaboard? Durability wise, he doesn't match up to Supes. Still his durability doesn't seem to be much of an issue here since he pretty much instantly heals any damage. And I don't think Hulk "required" Miek's betrayal to amp himself again. You make it sound like, had Miek not revealed his betrayal, WWH wouldn't have been able to fight at all. That is something I simply disagree with. Completely.
Absolute nonsense, and based on zero evidence. Hulk doesn't have a strength or Durability feat Supes couldn't match, plus in the WWH arc Hulk's durability was laughable, and his best feat was fighting Sentry where he promptly drained himself and had to learn of Miek's betrayel to once again turn into HUlk.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
2 punches. One of them, both of them are in shadow, so it's easy to miss. He was also further denting his helmet with applied pressure.
Zero punches, he surged up from the ground after having his faced driven into it and then grabbed Cain's helmet (and gained a head-butt to the midsection for his efforts) it isn't shown that he landed a clear, decent blow on Juggernaut in the comic.
Originally posted by SuperiorTechWell the sound effect made me think Hulk's blow connected. His further denting Jugg's helmet was also accompanied by a sound effect. If there were no sound effect, I wouldn't think that he was further denting it.
Ok I believe I see where he further dents the helmet right before the headbutt by juggs, I dont know about the punch in the shadows though you cant really tell if it connected.
Originally posted by The Pict... what?
Zero punches, he surged up from the ground after having his faced driven into it and then grabbed Cain's helmet (and gained a head-butt to the midsection for his efforts) it isn't shown that he landed a clear, decent blow on Juggernaut in the comic.
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