Thankfully all this rulk nonsense is over. His low speed causes him to lose this fight. However i want to call into question the tactic of superman one shotting him off the planet. Frannkly with supes speed he can BFr rulk off the planet no problems. But the tactic come have proposed of him punching him off the planet is NOT a valid one. Yes in theory based on supes strength and rulks weight, this is certainly possible but comics do not work that way. Heck if such tactics were valid, a fight between any two characters class 50 and upwards that cant fly wud end with the first punch because given their relative weights and strength levels the first punch that connects wud send one of them into orbit. Now superman may have done this to lobo b4 but anyone wud be hardpressed to explain why the effect of supes punch at that point differed from those he had given lobo in the past as given his relative weight and supes strength, the exact same thing shud have happened. And i highly doubt that superman has any additional special ability he is using aside his strength.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Thankfully all this rulk nonsense is over. His low speed causes him to lose this fight. However i want to call into question the tactic of superman one shotting him off the planet. Frannkly with supes speed he can BFr rulk off the planet no problems. But the tactic come have proposed of him punching him off the planet is NOT a valid one. Yes in theory based on supes strength and rulks weight, this is certainly possible but comics do not work that way. Heck if such tactics were valid, a fight between any two characters class 50 and upwards that cant fly wud end with the first punch because given their relative weights and strength levels the first punch that connects wud send one of them into orbit. Now superman may have done this to lobo b4 but anyone wud be hardpressed to explain why the effect of supes punch at that point differed from those he had given lobo in the past as given his relative weight and supes strength, the exact same thing shud have happened. And i highly doubt that superman has any additional special ability he is using aside his strength.
How do you explain Superman doing it again? Hell, he even punched Neutron to a particular part of space where he wanted him...
Originally posted by Avlon
How do you explain Superman doing it again? Hell, he even punched Neutron to a particular part of space where he wanted him...
Being unable to explain it is exactly what im talking about. It simply cant be because if we say that with supes strength he can easily take someone of that weight into space how do u explain that NOT happening every single time supes throws an uppercut. Unless we assume that supes is somehow controlling the kineic energy being transferred on a metaphysical level. Something that us highly unlikely
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Being unable to explain it is [B]exactly what im talking about. It simply cant be because if we say that with supes strength he can easily take someone of that weight into space how do u explain that NOT happening every single time supes throws an uppercut. [/B]
LOL...you're looking WAY too hard into it when the answer is simple.
Nobody wants 2 panel comics. Why doesn't the Flash IMP every issue? Why don't SS and Erads transmute everything off the bat?
Originally posted by Avlon
LOL...you're looking WAY too hard into it when the answer is simple.Nobody wants 2 panel comics. Why doesn't the Flash IMP every issue? Why don't SS and Erads transmute everything off the bat?
Actually that is COMPLETELY different. What u have called into question are things regarding a characters mindset and the decisions they make. However punching a being of a relatively small weight into orbit is something that shud happen with EVERY punch regardless of the persons wishes. Even if supes is pulling his punches, Unless he is using around 5 tons of strength to hit his opponent the person shud go into orbit. This applies not only to supes but to EVERY Class 50 and above character.
Originally posted by ultimatethoryes because superman has near perfect control over ihs strength thats how he can pick up lois without sending her into orbit or he can decimate a planet in on punch.
Actually that is COMPLETELY different. What u have called into question are things regarding a characters mindset and the decisions they make. However punching a being of a relatively small weight into orbit is something that shud happen with EVERY punch regardless of the persons wishes. Even if supes is pulling his punches, Unless he is using around 5 tons of strength to hit his opponent the person shud go into orbit. This applies not only to supes but to EVERY Class 50 and above character.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Because it is not his objective? It is known that Supes pulls his punches, so that can explain why his punches don't send everyone into space unless he wants them to.
Supes wud have to be using like five ton strength with every punch to avoid this same effect. Or be controlling gravity somehow. Further nearly all superstrong characters have the strength to do this but it only ever happens when the plot of the story enables it.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yes because superman has near perfect control over ihs strength thats how he can pick up lois without sending her into orbit or he can decimate a planet in on punch.
That is not the same at all. Superman picking up lois is entirely different from him punching someone. I can pick up a ball and have control over it but i certainly cannot properly kick a ball with a high level of force and expect to control it after i have already kicked it.( BTW superman has never one shotted a planet)
Originally posted by ultimatethor
That is not the same at all. Superman picking up lois is entirely different from him punching someone. I can pick up a ball and have control over it but i certainly cannot properly kick a ball with a high level of force and expect to control it after i have already kicked it.( BTW superman has never one shotted a planet)
because you arent skilled, professional soccer ball players can have control over the ball (BTW see earth-2 superma nfight, see his statement when fighitng konvict)
Originally posted by kakuzu
If superman were to pick up Louis and accidentally throw her that be sad not control of strength. If you pick up an ant will you accidentally throw it? No. A better example would be Superman hitting batman.
Bingo, The louis example is totally off.However, when superman hits batman it is obvious that he uses less one ton of his strength not bcause he does not want to send him into orbit but because anything more will definitely kill him.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Actually that is COMPLETELY different. What u have called into question are things regarding a characters mindset and the decisions they make. However punching a being of a relatively small weight into orbit is something that shud happen with EVERY punch regardless of the persons wishes. Even if supes is pulling his punches, Unless he is using around 5 tons of strength to hit his opponent the person shud go into orbit. This applies not only to supes but to EVERY Class 50 and above character.
Again. You're looking into it WAY too hard. Cosmic Rays and Nuclear accidents don't give you powers in real life either.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6529755.stm
This guy hits at 3.5 tons of force. I doubt multiplying that by roughly 14 times would achieve escape velocity for most objects.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
because you arent skilled, professional soccer ball players can have control over the ball (BTW see earth-2 superma nfight, see his statement when fighitng konvict)
No No NO, u are not getting it. Professional soccer players can direct the ball to go in a particular path that is to chart its path of flight. Causing the ball not to move at all after kicking it sufficiently is not within their capabilities
