Batman runs a gauntlet

are you guys trying to tell me that cap wouldn't have an extreme advantage with his shield fighting batman h2h while he has nothing?

if you said no,then answer this:

how could batman stalemate him with the shield twice,but lose to him without it?

Batman WTF clears this thing w/o using one Batkick! biscuits

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol.so your saying the shield isn't a factor than? and definitely not a significant factor right? 😆

cap is formiddable without a shield,but the fact is that,when he does have it,it is a extremely significant factor in the outcome of any fight he may enter.seeing as batman has already stalemated him with his shield without having to use anything but his fists,i'd say he takes cap when he has nothing but his fists to work with.

It's significant when Cap's facing bullets, lasers and explosions.

Not fists.

Did Batman use gadgets when he fought Cap?

Anyway I don't regard crossovers as anything more than toilet paper.

Originally posted by namorsubby
are you guys trying to tell me that cap wouldn't have an [b]extreme advantage with his shield fighting batman h2h while he has nothing?

if you said no,then answer this:

how could batman stalemate him with the shield twice,but lose to him without it? [/B]

Bat and Cap stalemate for a long period of time. Maybe even with Bats having a slight edge due to no shield (I'll humor you).

Then Batman starts tiring and Cap's still running on 50-75% battery power.

Then Cap starts beating on Bruce's tired, collapsed body.

lol.so his shield isn't a significant factor in a fight with batman?

i'm done here.

batman FTW

oh,and he used a batarang to end one fight with cap,but he was stalemating him pure h2h for several minutes while cap had his shield and he had nothing.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nightwing-Wins
Daredevil-Stalemates(Whoever can fight longer wins)
Captian America-Loses
Robin(Tim Drake)-Wins
Green Arrow(Connor Hawke)-Wins
Wildcat-Wins
Black Canary-Wins
Black Panter-Not sure
Red Hood(Jason Todd)-Wins

Wildcat should also beat Batman in Brawling, remember Batman can't use his gadgets. This is straight up H2H combat

Captain America has fought Batman to Stalement also, but Roger has super human strength which is unfair of 10 men. So this is not fair. 1 hit might Ko Bats

Black Panter feat and oppenent is more to take notice too
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t405357.html
I say Panther wins,
Here a site for Batman Feats !
http://members.tripod.com/agent0x7/crossovers.html

Originally posted by Mindset
Did Batman use gadgets when he fought Cap?

Anyway I don't regard crossovers as anything more than toilet paper.

In Marvel vs DC, Batman at least used batarangs(SP) and in JLA/Avengers, Cap did have the shield at the time of their fight.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol.so his shield isn't a significant factor in a fight with batman?

i'm done here.

batman FTW

oh,and he used a batarang to end one fight with cap,but he was stalemating him pure h2h for several minutes while cap had his shield and he had nothing.

Did Cap Slap Batman with his shield? Or was it for show? lolz.... This is also h2h combat remember no equipments

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
Let me tell you how this goes-

Bat and Cap stalemate for a long period of time. Maybe even with Bats having a slight edge due to no shield (I'll humor you).

Then Batman starts tiring and Cap's still running on 50-75% battery power.

Then Cap starts beating on Bruce's tired, collapsed body.

two men supposedly equal in h2h engage each other.one has a weapon he can use as an estension of his body and work seemlessly to his advantage due to years of training and experience with it.the other has his fists.but the other still stalemates the weapon weilder.okay now take that weapon away.logically,who would you say wins this bout?

the decision is clear.

Cap didn't use the shield in their fight during JLA/Avengers

unfortunately that still leaves one encounter.lol

Where Batman did use weapons and Cap only lost due to outside circumstances.

he used them after they fought extensively without him relinquishing a single batarang.

i have the issue,i need not be reminded.

Most of the fight happened off-panel, you can't prove that was the first time he used a weapon.

ok then i'm supposed to assume he did? even though i saw him do perfectly fine without any while cap had his red mitts all over that niftty shield of his?

Since when is barely moving your opponet with your attacks while you get sent flying from his = doing just fine?

BTW, didn't we join the fight with Batman hiding from Cap in a sewer in an attempt to ambush him, that is hardly the act of someone that is doing "perfectly fine" in a fight.

😆 so you're saying captain america actually won right? this is rich

Let's see, changing what somebody said during a debate and then making fun of the new statement, there is a term for people use that tactic.

all i'm saying is he was doing fine and he stalemated him during the time in which they engaged.you're trying to undermind his performance by pointing out specific parts of the fight and in essence emphasizing it to make it look worse.

what's the term for it? i'd love to know.