Things Run a Gauntlet

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
1. Professor Hulk one shotted Guido and said to a few members of X-Factor that they just don't get it... "you and Muscle Boy can't stop me" or something to that effect.

Again, Guido wasnt one shotted. He lasted the entire duration of that fight.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
2. Concerning Ability, strength, durability, and fighting skill, Namor could outfight Colossus but Peter is more durable, and stronger. Strong Guy has been consistently overloaded so he ranked lower than Ares who is just as strong as he is, but faster, and has thousands of years fighting experience on him.

Id have to disagree about Colossus being stronger than Namor. More durable would depend on the situation(see Namor and Abom fight). Strong Guy has been overloaded a few times yes, however it usually always due to absorbing a major damage output. Something that none on this list can dish save for savage Hulk if enraged enough. Also, his overload was rid of via pacemaker from Forge. Writer of WWH either knew nothing about it or chose to ignore it. Is Ares as strong as Guido? Id like to see proof of that one. Faster? Fast enough to make a difference if they were to fight? H2h speed feats? Also 1,000s of years fighting exp is just that. Doesnt mean hed beat him in a fight because of it.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
The same thing goes for Wonder Man his flight speed durabilty and strength offsets the fact that he's really just a chump, and if he was only able to lift 80 tons i would put him at just above Mr. Hyde.

I really thought it through before I posted, and the only two that I would have switched would have been Tiger Shark for Rhino, but pins per pecentile gave Rhino a slight edge on him.

Performance my friend.

Wonderman doesnt even have the durability he used to and thats not even counting his ionic form. Hell, Herc gave him a swolen face and had him down for the count even after being shot with poisons?, yet you have him higher than Namor?😕

Hey man, if you really thought it through, what can i say. I just noticed some flaws in your list. Tigershark wouldnt place higher than Cage imo either. Id actually have Hyde 1st considering his power fluctuates more than anyone on the list and gets beat by a street lvl'er on average.

Performance? I guess.

Edit: P.S. Not trying to ruin your thread or anything, so i hope you dont think im trying to. Fact is, Thing doesnt clear it and loses to most on the list.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Again, Guido wasnt one shotted. He lasted the entire duration of that fight.

Id have to disagree about Colossus being stronger than Namor. More durable would depend on the situation(see Namor and Abom fight). Strong Guy has been overloaded a few times yes, however it usually always due to absorbing a major damage output. Something that none on this list can dish save for savage Hulk if enraged enough. Also, his overload was rid of via pacemaker from Forge. Writer of WWH either knew nothing about it or chose to ignore it. Is Ares as strong as Guido? Id like to see proof of that one. Faster? Fast enough to make a difference if they were to fight? H2h speed feats? Also 1,000s of years fighting exp is just that. Doesnt mean hed beat him in a fight because of it.

Wonderman doesnt even have the durability he used to and thats not even counting his ionic form. Hell, Herc gave him a swolen face and had him down for the count even after being shot with poisons?, yet you have him higher than Namor?😕

Hey man, if you really thought it through, what can i say. I just noticed some flaws in your list. Tigershark wouldnt place higher than Cage imo either. Id actually have Hyde 1st considering his power fluctuates more than anyone on the list and gets beat by a street lvl'er on average.

Performance? I guess.

Edit: P.S. Not trying to ruin your thread or anything, so i hope you dont think im trying to. Fact is, Thing doesnt clear it and loses to most on the list.

I see your point, many retcons have been done, and for the past year Wonder Man has been very suspect to me, but when Sentry fought Ultron, Simon wanted to stay behind claiming that he was just a powerful as the Sentry... at least in his mind, so I'm still willing to give him time to prove it.

I do see your points though, and very valid ones they are.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I see your point, many retcons have been done, and for the past year Wonder Man has been very suspect to me, but when Sentry fought Ultron, Simon wanted to stay behind claiming that he was just a powerful as the Sentry... at least in his mind, so I'm still willing to give him time to prove it.

I do see your points though, and very valid ones they are.

Youre right. Warbird or Ms.Marvel(whatever she goes by) seemed like the ultimate hater when he cut him off in mid sentence. Why not let him stay? Its like now, the curiosity is in many ppl's heads because wed actually like to see him get the chance to shine like he did back in the last 80's-90's pre ionic form.

Makes it to 6.

Originally posted by jrodslam

Wonderman doesnt even have the durability he used to and thats not even counting his ionic form. Hell, Herc gave him a swolen face and had him down for the count even after being shot with poisons?, yet you have him higher than Namor?😕

Originally posted by Mindset
Umm, Herc was shot with Hydra poison which made him go into a mindless rage, which pretty much increased his strength.

Yea but wasnt the poison suppose to weaken/hinder him in battle? Did his strength really increase from being enraged? It just appeared that he was going all out on Simon.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yea but wasnt the poison suppose to weaken/hinder him in battle? Did his strength really increase from being enraged? It just appeared that he was going all out on Simon.

I mean it's not like a Hulk strength increase with anger thing, but he was trying to kill, so he wasn't holding back, like you mentioned.

It may have eventually weakened Herc, but for most of the comic it didn't, I don't exactly remember what happened at the end, I think Natasha was just able to calm him down and it was over, not sure if they cured him later or it just wore off.

hulk and abom and wet namor beat thing for the majority 8/10 maybe 9/10 cos they just too strong for ben. but nobody on this list save for a pissed off hulk can stomp ben with ease cos mrs grimms blue eyed boy is no coward and has more heart than most of the marvel universe. when has ben ever give up? he been beat up and knocked out but thing never gives up. and that gives him a slight majority over everyone else.

6

Originally posted by jrodslam
Again, Guido wasnt one shotted. He lasted the entire duration of that fight.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I have not seen it in awhile But I recall Guido getting beat up pretty easily. To the point where they thought Hulk was gonna kill him iirc.

Hulk did have his way with him yea, but he(guido) was certainly not out of the fight. It was polaris who stated hulk looked as if was killing guido after one hit, lol.

Barely beats 6 but stops at 7 real hard.

Originally posted by golem370

11. Savage Hulk vs Thing = Hulk has the attributes to win but Thing has the smarts to win also toss up