LOTF Luke vs Bane, ROTS Sidious, and Darth Revan

Originally posted by Enyalus
Bane's lightning comes out in at least a dozen arcs. I'd assume Sidious' is similar. Which makes it impossible to block with a single lightsaber. Luke dies, and badly.

Infact! All of the Sith Lords mentioned in this thread possess excellent proficiency in Force Lightning.

Luke will be in serious trouble in this case.

Ok, luke maskes his force sensitivity, then uses the force to cloak himself, he appears invisible in both the force and sight, he sneaks up and "OMFGZAZAZAZAWTFBBQPWN" each one of them.

If Luke does this the the trio just release a collective Force Wave and liquidise the twerp. Luke dies more times than DE sidious in this.

I was making it sound ridiculous on purpose you dick, to teach that idiot a lesson.

Now,, darth exodus >>>> ignored.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
If Luke does this the the trio just release a collective Force Wave and liquidise the twerp. Luke dies more times than DE sidious in this.

Originally posted by Schwarzenegger
Who are you to script what would happen in a fight kotorfanboy?

Ok, luke maskes his force sensitivity, then uses the force to cloak himself, he appears invisible in both the force and sight, he sneaks up and "OMFGZAZAZAZAWTFBBQPWN" each one of them.

Ridiculous enough?

Spite thread.

It would take an idot like you to write a post like the one you did. I created the thread and can make whatever scenario I want moron. If you don't like it get off the thread.

Originally posted by Kotor3
It would take an idot like you to write a post like the one you did. I created the thread and can make whatever scenario I want moron. If you don't like it get off the thread.

It doesn't take an idiot to point out your cosmic stupidity, again you fail to understand what a hypothetical debate means and yet you wonder why your debating skills are mocked by other members(gideon).

Oh and who says just because you make a thread, you get to plant the scenario?

If you can make whatever ridiculous scenario you want, then so can the rest of us.

Originally posted by Schwarzenegger
It doesn't take an idiot to point out your cosmic stupidity, again you fail to understand what a hypothetical debate means and yet you wonder why your debating skills are mocked by other members(gideon).

Oh and who says just because you make a thread, you get to plant the scenario?

If you can make whatever ridiculous scenario you want, then so can the rest of us.

Your stupidity and ignorance has no limits. I initially gave you some credit but you are just that stupid. I am not going to even waste my time explaining to you. As I stated before get off the thread if you do not like it.

No one cares about your feeling on or ask you about the rules of creating a thread. I now classify you and DarkSerpent the same, absolute asses! Get off this thread and relieve us of your stupidity and comments.

Luke can survive the opening salvo of force lightning bassed on these feats.

1. he was witnessed to move so fast that it looked like he was using 20 light sabers at once... this means that luke has the ability to block the force lightning with his saber.

2. Luke can move faster than the eye can see, so his adversairies save for sidious can match his speed and follow him with their force lightning.

3. I the fight between Darth Cadeus in Infurno "Jacen stopped pullung and started to bring his free armaround. Luke was ready, had been expecting this since the flight started. Still flying through the air, he raised his own hand, palm outward, and pushed the force outward from his arm to form a protective sheild" page 258.

I would give more reasons but I have to go to class.

Originally posted by Spartan 063
Luke can survive the opening salvo of force lightning bassed on these feats.

1. he was witnessed to move so fast that it looked like he was using 20 light sabers at once... this means that luke has the ability to block the force lightning with his saber.

2. Luke can move faster than the eye can see, so his adversairies save for sidious can match his speed and follow him with their force lightning.

3. I the fight between Darth Cadeus in Infurno "Jacen stopped pullung and started to bring his free armaround. Luke was ready, had been expecting this since the flight started. Still flying through the air, he raised his own hand, palm outward, and pushed the force outward from his arm to form a protective sheild" page 258.

I would give more reasons but I have to go to class.

I like your response and await to hear you other reasons, however, lightning definitely moves faster than Luke could ever move. I still do not see the saber as a source of protection for Luke.

If there is a force technique that could either counter or protect Luke that would be different.

Moreover, Luke was using Jar'Kai in the 20 lightsabers at once scene. Meaning with one, it'd be about 10 lightsabers. Which isn't significantly faster than either Sidious or Bane has been shown to move.

S_W_LeGenD made an excellent point about Revan's Force Storm. You're referring to the ritual one that Bane learned from Revan's holocron, correct?

Any indication that Revan could replicate the feat solo?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Moreover, Luke was using Jar'Kai in the 20 lightsabers at once scene. Meaning with one, it'd be about 10 lightsabers. Which isn't significantly faster than either Sidious or Bane has been shown to move.

S_W_LeGenD made an excellent point about Revan's Force Storm. You're referring to the ritual one that Bane learned from Revan's holocron, correct?

Any indication that Revan could replicate the feat solo?

I forgot the exact quote and this has probably been argued before but isn't this the same technique Revan used on the Rakatans?

Originally posted by Kotor3
I like your response and await to hear you other reasons, however, lightning definitely moves faster than Luke could ever move. I still do not see the saber as a source of protection for Luke.

If there is a force technique that could either counter or protect Luke that would be different.

The 3rs point i used then backed up with the quote from inferno luke produces a prectective sheild to block force lightning, how ever we do not know how well it will hold up agains the trio all using force lightning.

even if he can only hold the block for a few seconds he could use the force energie and launch it back at the trio, specifically bane and kill him even though he has his armor.

Then it is just 2 vs 1.

Since Luke can move faster than the eye can see sidious is the only person who can contest with him now.

Since we do not know enough of Revan's saber skills, or if he can even move faster than the eye can see, if he can't he is pretty much useless in a fight, because if he shoots lightning blindly into the fight he might hit luke, but then again he might also hit sidious.

Id say Luke wins the saber fight 8/10 times.

Now it is just Revan vs Luke and since Sidious is the strongest sith ever and Revan is less then Sidious then we can use A> B> C Luke wins.

However if Revan can move faster than the eye can see, id give the fight to luke 6/10 chance to win.

Originally posted by Spartan 063
The 3rs point i used then backed up with the quote from inferno luke produces a prectective sheild to block force lightning, how ever we do not know how well it will hold up agains the trio all using force lightning.

even if he can only hold the block for a few seconds he could use the force energie and launch it back at the trio, specifically bane and kill him even though he has his armor.

Then it is just 2 vs 1.

Since Luke can move faster than the eye can see sidious is the only person who can contest with him now.

Since we do not know enough of Revan's saber skills, or if he can even move faster than the eye can see, if he can't he is pretty much useless in a fight, because if he shoots lightning blindly into the fight he might hit luke, but then again he might also hit sidious.

Id say Luke wins the saber fight 8/10 times.

Now it is just Revan vs Luke and since Sidious is the strongest sith ever and Revan is less then Sidious then we can use A> B> C Luke wins.

However if Revan can move faster than the eye can see, id give the fight to luke 6/10 chance to win.

Well said. I await to see if there are any arguments against your comments.

The quote you posted, Spartan, doesn't show Jacen using his Force Lightning at all against Luke. Even if it does hold Caedus' lightning at bay - Caedus was stated to be slightly stronger than Vader. Which means he's still weaker than Palpatine and weaker than Bane - especially in the Force Lightning department.

Besides Sidious, Bane has also been said to move fast enough to not be seen. And this is coming the point of view of Sith Apprentices training to become Sith Lords, and a current Sith Lord and Battlemaster.

If only Sidious' lightning were hitting him, or perhaps only Bane's, I could see Luke throwing it back (ala Yoda). But putting together all three, when all three know the Force Storm technique? No, he doesn't have a chance to throw it back. Not at all.

Besides this, if it goes to sabers (which it won't), both Bane and Sidious are capable of speeds comparable to that of Luke, and Revan was said to be a lightsaber prodigy. So he gets raped in that category, as well.

Yeah...Luke could take on and best any one of these guys himself, but nobody in the mythos can take on all three at once

It seems that the trio is to much for anyone. Who would you add to help Luke out against the trio? The person must be a jedi and cannot be Yoda.

Add Windu.

Vodo-Siosk Baas. 😛

EDIT: Why Windu? He'd get killed by Lightning before he could even sink into Vaapad.

And Vodo would be any help? Bane and Palpatine would be cracking his shell open and eating him with lemon butter in short order

Add Kyp or Lord Hoth or Jacen Solo right before he fell.