What would your polictical party be? Should we abolish the political spectrum?

Started by Alpha Centauri36 pages
Originally posted by lord xyz
Where has it happened, because I don't think it has.

At various points in history, and today, there have been no systems of government in some places. Obviously it didn't work out, because the best solution and way forward was considered to be...systems of government. I'm sure if you went to Middle Eastern countries where anarchy is reigning, where they WANT systems of government, and asked them how things were, they'd probably say "Shit.".

It's simple logic and it'll help you.

All anarchists are wrong and silly.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
At various points in history, and today, there have been no systems of government. Obviously it didn't work out, because the best solution and way forward was considered to be...systems of government.

It's simple logic and it'll help you.

All anarchists are wrong and silly.

-AC

And to you all systems of no government are the same, I take it?

It's entirely stupid to suggest it's better to not have a government, yes.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's entirely stupid to suggest it's better to not have a government, yes.

-AC

Good that you believe that, but you don't actually have facts supporting that. You don't even understand what modern anarchists argue, you are just talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Good that you believe that, but you don't actually have facts supporting that. You don't even understand what modern anarchists argue, you are just talking out of your ass.

What do modern anarchists argue?

Aside from big shoulder pads and buggies?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
At various points in history, and today, there have been no systems of government in some places. Obviously it didn't work out, because the best solution and way forward was considered to be...systems of government. I'm sure if you went to Middle Eastern countries where anarchy is reigning, where they WANT systems of government, and asked them how things were, they'd probably say "Shit.".

It's simple logic and it'll help you.

All anarchists are wrong and silly.

-AC

All those cases, a war was happening.

That's not an argument against anarchy, that's an argument against war.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
At various points in history, and today, there have been no systems of government in some places.

like medieval iceland 😉

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Obviously it didn't work out, because the best solution and way forward was considered to be...systems of government.

re: peaceful communities can't compete militarily with authoritarian regiemes that steal from their citizens

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm sure if you went to Middle Eastern countries where anarchy is reigning, where they WANT systems of government, and asked them how things were, they'd probably say "Shit.".

OMG!!!! I didn't realize the middle east had regions of committed philosophical anarchist communities!

must be difficult with all the theocratic/authoritarian groups all over the place blowing things up...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's simple logic and it'll help you.

All anarchists are wrong and silly.

all of them!

Originally posted by BackFire
What do modern anarchists argue?

Aside from big shoulder pads and buggies?

Be quiet.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Be quiet.

Fine.

You can keep the shoulder pads.

Originally posted by BackFire
Fine.

You can keep the shoulder pads.

😊

Now I can play American Football with the assurance my shoulders won't get damaged.

Originally posted by lord xyz
😊

Now I can play American Football with the assurance my shoulders won't get damaged.

Can't wear a cup though.

It's the true anarchist way.

Originally posted by BackFire
Can't wear a cup though.

It's the true anarchist way.

Don't need a cup.

Balls of steel.

Originally posted by BackFire
What do modern anarchists argue?

actually, a huge variety of things

some advocate for community organization almost identical to governments we would be familiar with, others for more liquid type leaders, sort of organize for what is necessary or even just social axiomatic "rules".

I personally believe something close to radical federalism, where more and more local communities are given the ability to run and make decisions at a local level about bigger issues. Eventually, giving the most power possible to the individual, and at the very least, those who are most directly affected by decisions are the most involved.

Real reason is you have a vagina.

Originally posted by BackFire
What do modern anarchists argue?

Aside from big shoulder pads and buggies?

They are arguing for a free market regulated system including policing, schooling, armed forces, fire fighters and the like. One of the basic elements would be insurance company like protection agencies that would take care of safety, similar to how police nowadays fails to.
They are supporting more charitable approaches to problem solution as well as better community work. And, they obviously don't argue that if the government immediately was abolished it would all be awesome. Like most reasonable people they can see the advantages a government offers...the way to anarchy is only through minarchy.

They also argue for pads and buggies.

Of course there are also crazy anarchists...but to dismiss all forms of anarchy cause one is a big baby that's not capable of independent thoughts is a bit irritating.

A wise man once said "Fascism is the only true anarchy".

Originally posted by Bardock42
They are arguing for a free market regulated system including policing, schooling, armed forces, fire fighters and the like. One of the basic elements would be insurance company like protection agencies that would take care of safety, similar to how police nowadays fails to.
They are supporting more charitable approaches to problem solution as well as better community work. And, they obviously don't argue that if the government immediately was abolished it would all be awesome. Like most reasonable people they can see the advantages a government offers...the way to anarchy is only through minarchy.

They also argue for pads and buggies.

Of course there are also crazy anarchists...but to dismiss all forms of anarchy cause one is a big baby that's not capable of independent thoughts is a bit irritating.

Fair enough, so then let me ask your opinion;

If that's so workable, why hasn't it happened?

Originally posted by BackFire
A wise man once said "Fascism is the only true anarchy".

A WISE man...see. Wise.

-AC

Originally posted by BackFire
A wise man once said "Fascism is the only true anarchy".
Wisdom isn't what it used to be, is it?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Fair enough, so then let me ask your opinion;

If that's so workable, why hasn't it happened?
-AC

Now that's a really stupid ****ing question.

People don't agree? dur

Originally posted by inimalist
actually, a huge variety of things

some advocate for community organization almost identical to governments we would be familiar with, others for more liquid type leaders, sort of organize for what is necessary or even just social axiomatic "rules".

I personally believe something close to radical federalism, where more and more local communities are given the ability to run and make decisions at a local level about bigger issues. Eventually, giving the most power possible to the individual, and at the very least, those who are most directly affected by decisions are the most involved.

Radical federalism is very good methinks.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Fair enough, so then let me ask your opinion;

If that's so workable, why hasn't it happened?

-AC

I didn't say it is "so" workable.

But for one because governments have the extreme tendency to become bigger not smaller. Another would be because people need a lot of time to understand how living in an anarchist society works, like you for example, who can not conceive of it. Not sure what the question means though, obviously not every system that is workable has happened, nor is every system that happened workable.