Logan has been shown to takes hits from true powerhouses- a peak human like Fisk ain't putting him down.
And Pete was in his mid to late teens in his 1st few fights with Kingpin. He was 10ton strenggth upom reachin maturity. He would've bee about 6-8 ton in those scans. And he would've been holding back. Its in his nature-Parker is a gentle prson who doesn't want to kill anyone
Logan ain't got the same restraints-against a nasty scunbag like Fisk he would be lethal - Wilson is gooing down
Originally posted by BUSTER1Strength wise Wolverine lack towards King Pin, but stamina consistency endurance is Wolverine chances's for victory
Logan has been shown to takes hits from true powerhouses- a peak human like Fisk ain't putting him down.And Pete was in his mid to late teens in his 1st few fights with Kingpin. He was 10ton strenggth upom reachin maturity. He would've bee about 6-8 ton in those scans. And he would've been holding back. Its in his nature-Parker is a gentle prson who doesn't want to kill anyone
Logan ain't got the same restraints-against a nasty scunbag like Fisk he would be lethal - Wilson is gooing down
Fisk is quick, agile, durable and strong.
Considering what Fisk can take, Logan is going to have to dish out a lot of pain to put Fisk down.
It should be a long drag out fight.
As such, if Fisk catches Logan, the fight is good as done.
Fisk is clever, once he realizes he can't put Logan down with strikes, he'll grapple him and squeeze the breath out of him, via choke hold/strangulation. (Common sense should tell him that his ribs are unbreakable so the bear hug is out of the question.)
I don't see how it's as lopsided as 9 or 10/10 in Logans favor.
I give the majority to Fisk, 6/10
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Pete, like superman, subconciously holds back against opponents to avoid killing them. RARELY do you see spiderman go all out with enough force to kill someone.Wolverine would win this. A punch to the jaw would likely break kingpin's fist- remember wolverine's bones are all adamantium, claws or not, (imagine kingpin trying to punch out a T-800 Terminator..) and wolverine does have "enhanced human" level strength and captain america level fighting skills.
That healing factor is also going to give him much greater stamina vs. fisk- when kingpin is tired, bruised, and bleeding wolverine is still fresh. No way for kingpin to win this, really.
Something I've got to clear up, since it's been pissing me off for years now.
No, punching Wolverine's jaw does not automatically cause a broken hand. Wolverine is NOT a stationary statue. He's not firmly planted in the ground with little-to-no give. He's a 300 lb mutant with an adamantium skeleton. Regardless of what his skeleton is composed of, anyone who can casually swat away 300 lbs is going to do just that.
Let's scale it down a bit. Say you punch a skull. A titanium skull. That only weighs...let's say 5 lbs. And for the sake of argument, it's on a baseball tee. Now if you punched said skull, do you really think it's going to break your hand (if so, please never punch anything ever again in your life)? No, you're going to send that skull flying (albeit only a dozen or so feet, but you get the point). Would it hurt a bit? Yea, sure. But it also hurts hitting bone, so there's really no difference here. As long as you're hitting something that weighs the same as another, less durable substance with the same force, the same results will occur.
Of course, if Wolverine is up against a wall or is otherwise firmly planted on the ground at the time of said punch with no chance of his head moving, then yea, you're probably going to break your hand. Because in this instance, you're practically hitting an immovable object, so of course that force is going to be redirected back to your hand and crumble it.
So, with all this said, Fisk is not going to break his hands on Wolvie's skull unless he either catches an unlucky break and hits him with a poorly-positioned fist or if Wolverine is somehow immovable at the time of the punch. Otherwise, Fisk's punches should easily knock Wolvie back and cause little damage to his hand.
However, Wolverine still wins this fight almost every time. Healing factor FTW.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Something I've got to clear up, since it's been pissing me off for years now.No, punching Wolverine's jaw does not automatically cause a broken hand. Wolverine is NOT a stationary statue. He's not firmly planted in the ground with little-to-no give. He's a 300 lb mutant with an adamantium skeleton. Regardless of what his skeleton is composed of, anyone who can casually swat away 300 lbs is going to do just that.
Let's scale it down a bit. Say you punch a skull. A titanium skull. That only weighs...let's say 5 lbs. And for the sake of argument, it's on a baseball tee. Now if you punched said skull, do you really think it's going to break your hand (if so, please never punch anything ever again in your life)? No, you're going to send that skull flying (albeit only a dozen or so feet, but you get the point). Would it hurt a bit? Yea, sure. But it also hurts hitting bone, so there's really no difference here. As long as you're hitting something that weighs the same as another, less durable substance with the same force, the same results will occur.
In this issue of Uncanny X-Men 222 when they were fighting the Marauders, Creed punched Logan in the ribs and broke his hand.
Originally posted by geshien
Fisk is quick, agile, durable and strong.Considering what Fisk can take, Logan is going to have to dish out a lot of pain to put Fisk down.
It should be a long drag out fight.
As such, if Fisk catches Logan, the fight is good as done.
Fisk is clever, once he realizes he can't put Logan down with strikes, he'll grapple him and squeeze the breath out of him, via choke hold/strangulation. (Common sense should tell him that his ribs are unbreakable so the bear hug is out of the question.)
I don't see how it's as lopsided as 9 or 10/10 in Logans favor.
I give the majority to Fisk, 6/10
Fist might be stronger, might and considering Logan routinely takes shots from 50 tonners and up, Fisk's strength is meaningless in this fight. His agility and quickness is nowhere near Logan's and definitely nowhere near the opponents Logan takes down on a regular basis so that is also meaningless.
How is Fisk going to grapple with Logan? Logan is a much, much better fighter. It would be more likely that Logan would out grapple Fist and put him in a submission.
As far as strangling him, Logan fights dirty he would just kick him in the balls.
Logan 10/10.
wolverine only needs to hit kingpin in the face a couple times to win the fight, his body is strong but you can't train for concussions.
adamantium reinforced fists > very human skull.
though fisk is like 6 foot something and logan is 5'3", it doesn't stop him from fighting sentinels and other larger opponents, after all, everyone is taller than logan is.
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
In this issue of Uncanny X-Men 222 when they were fighting the Marauders, Creed punched Logan in the ribs and broke his hand.
It's not loading. But are you telling me that SABRETOOTH punched Wolvie's ribs and broke his hand? Did Wolvie get knocked back or did he just remain stationary?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
It's not loading. But are you telling me that SABRETOOTH punched Wolvie's ribs and broke his hand? Did Wolvie get knocked back or did he just remain stationary?
He just remain stationary I do believe. I will have a look again, when I get home. Or if anyone else can, please put a scan up of this please.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
wolverine only needs to hit kingpin in the face a couple times to win the fight, his body is strong but you can't train for concussions.adamantium reinforced fists > very human skull.
though fisk is like 6 foot something and logan is 5'3", it doesn't stop him from fighting sentinels and other larger opponents, after all, everyone is taller than logan is.
It would take more than a couple of shots to take Fisk out.
And wolverine is a threat to giants/super strength characters when he has his claws, without them he's practice.
Fisk isn't in a fifty or even twenty ton range but, ten ton is nothing to laugh at.
Logan is superior to Fisk in the fighting department but, Fisk is no slouch at all. He's taken on Spider-man, Captain America and Daredevil.
He pimp slaps mobs on a daily basis without breaking a sweat.
Logan has his hands full and it's debatable if he has the strength take Fisk out via submission. i.e. choke hold.
Originally posted by tdazz
Logan fights dirty he would just kick him in the balls.
That, I could see. 😆
