League of Champions Week One: Bdub/Smurph Vs. Scoob/Leo

Started by Blair Wind2 pages

Offense, Bee-Otch!

Guess its time the baddest mofo in the tournament shows his offensive powers to their fullest. Thats right, I challenge anyone to compare to Arsenals power level, versatility, and offensive output. Cant think of anyone who can? Me either. Ill explain why here

Offensive Measures

Let us begin by systematically reminding you who we have in Arsenal.

- We have Hank Pym aka Yellow Jacket. He is the brains of the operation, gives Nimrod the creativity to use is powers to the fullest, and allows them to change size.

- We have the biggest and most versatile pure offense in the game with Vector.

- And finally we have Nimrod, the king of versatility, of adapting to all situations, the bane of all super powered individuals.

Now you have to remember, all of these characters are amalgamated. That means they shore up each others weaknesses, play on each others strengths, and make them the most feared amalgam, well, ever. I will explain more thoroughly below.

Yellowjacket allows us to grow to giant proportions. This, as you can imagine, will allow our attacks to have wider areas of which to affect (think entire blocks, streets, city areas). It is also its on defense, as they will have to attack more area to actually cause us ANY kind of harm.

Now comes in Vector, the king of offense in this scenario. We will be unleashing a full force blast of his continuously. Non-stop. Now to understand what that means giant sized just look at what he can do normal sized:

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Now what you have to understand is that because he is amalgamated with Nimrod and Yellowjacket, he can be much more effective. You see, he could do an omni-directional attack full force at giant sizes. Think about that. If this was our ONLY attack, we would still win. They would get ambushed by the force, and flayed to the bone. Hell, at that size and with that much pressure, their bones would repel themselves as well. You would end up with ashes!

Now we move on to our more varied selection of character specific weaponry with Nimrod

While the Vector Blast is happening, we also hit them with an omni-directional version of this:

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Keep in mind that Nimrod only uses it as a beam there, but that we can easily turn it into a widespread attack as well, since Nimrod can adapt to all situations, and has shown omni directional attacks:

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Keep also in mind that Arsenal will be 100's of feet tall, so a beam attack from him would actually sweep city blocks at a time, and an omni directional version? Well, it would be HUGE.

Keep also in mind that Nimrod shows in that scan that he only has to hit Juggernaut once to keep him down, which means we can just perform widespread sweeps or omni-directional blasts to KO everybody.

To add insult to injury, we take them out with the Synapse Dislocutert:
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Note that the Synapse Dislocuter can be cast at a wide range, and with our size, we could take out the battlefield at the start of their match. Notice that if we can KO Juggernaut, we can KO Brit.

Just because we are ridiculously powerful already, we might as well add to the powerful full body omni directional blasts we will be having. I present to you a gun from Marvel Armory:

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Now, since we downloaded all the specs from Plex on all of Marvel's weapons, this is now on the list. Imagine at giant sizes bullets bigger than that one flying from all around Nimrods body (imagine guns forming around Nimrods body, and bullets coming out from them).

And the best thing is? We are doing this ALL SIMULTANEOUSLY, a combination of Vector's attack and Nimrod's attack. It will be kicking the crap out of ALL your characters.

Their "Defenses"
Now, I have to laugh at something 😆 . Their response is to believe that Mandarin's rings and Spirals Magic will save them.

First of all, do any of you really believe that the Mandarin will be able to:

A) Match the frequency we are using, and more importantly
B) Overpower our giant sized sonic attacks?

I mean, it would be like the buzzing of a bee compared to the roar of a jet plane, except the difference would be even GREATER! Also of note, we could just magnetize Mandarin's rings and have them come to us. It happened once in a Tales of Suspense storyline where Ironman took them from Mandarin. I'll see what I can do about getting scans for that. Mandarin is good, but not that good my friends.

Moving on to Spirals Magic, Leo is quoted as saying:
oh, and as far as vector's power, and the dislocutor, etc--that can easily be countered and more--it can be turned back AGAINST them. spiral can simply use her power-reversal spell and send whatever they throw at us, right back at them

Yet they ignore the very specific scans I showed in our opening post that state that Vectors field can deflect spells!

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Any spell they use will be deflected and/or messed up thanks to the Vector field AND the PB (which I have allowed Smurph to handle, so I wont touch on it).

So in an offensive summary, from the very start, they'll be hit with Vector's Hulk-flaying powers. Even if they dont die (I say this unconvinced because they should ALREADY be dead), they'd still be buffeted backwards, and we'd kill/KO them with the tech that Nimrod brings to the table

Nimrod's Regeneration/Durability/

I like it how Leo uses half scans to prove unrealistic dreams of his, specifically that Rogue beat down on Nimrod. In fact his quote is:

"i've already--ON PANEL--shown what happened when nimrod faced an amalgamated rogue. he was confused and BEAT DOWN. and that was just rogue, nightcrawler and colossus. he couldn't adapt fast enough to counter her powerset, he was NOT able to 'instantly' create counters. again, nimrod is a powerful character--he is NOT everything they claim he is. (which is good for them or he'd be illegal). "

The scan he showed was this one:
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Yet neglected to show this one:
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He just regenerated his entire body in ONE Panel. *Tisk tisk* Using half scans is not helpful Leo. Added with the fact that with Yellowjacket they can regrow mass, even the teleportation trick would not work, he could just regrow the arm!

And to top it all off, you cannot deny his durability:
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He just took an entire building at FULL size on top of him without a scratch. You think you can do ANYTHING to us? 😆

Also, Nimrod by himself might not be very creative (though he is very logical and VERY VERY useful), but thanks to Hank's genius mind, creativity is no problem.

Summary
In summary, we will be applying offensive measures to which the other team cannot stack up to. This offensive measure doubles as a defensive measure (they cant hurt what they cant touch), and even if they COULD, I just showed how Nimrod regenerated himself

Your King was taken down, your Queen raped, and your Bishops and Knights ran away. Checkmate my friends.

Loose Ends

Now that Blair and I have torn down our opposition's pitiful defenses and poorly coordinated offenses, I have time to touch on everything that wasn't hyped up or touched on yet.

First, replies...

Pocket battlefield

Scoob says: The ship doesn't have the specs! It has a digital manual covering how to use it!

OK then, make our jobs easier...

Nimrod DLs the manual.

Moving on...

Untouched on Nimrod Powers

Technopathy

Nimrod controlled FORGE'S entire lab and defense robots.

We could just take control of the rings... 🙂

Freezing

We can freeze the entire city and leave it in the stone age.

Magnetism, energy shields, sensors... etc.

All in upcoming scans. 🙂

Magik's Astral Plane

She has to concentrate to do this, and leaves her mortal body behind...

So we KO her the moment she enters.

Another enemy defense down the drain.

The rest of our team

I just want a chance to hype the rest of our team.

Noh Varr can be punted five miles, and race all the way back from a laying position in three panels.

Hawkman has lifted a falling plane before, and hurt top tiers with weapon + strength.

Scans and stuff later.

I know Arsenal could take out the opposition by himself, but I'm fond of these guys too.

Vector...

.... has repelled telepathy (which is a signal from the EM spectrum)
has blocked all the sensory technology of Reed Richards and Ironman
has repelled reality before (at least twice)
has repelled Dr. Strange's magic before

We can block every single attack our opponents make.

Scan Only #1

Noh Varr taking out the entire Runaways/New Avengers in a couple pages.

The 5 mile feat I was referring to.

Scan Only #2

Vector repels reality
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Imagine a 600 foot version of this, while Nimrod makes it omnidirectional, and amps the power output.

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Repels telepathy, technology and magic.

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Scan Only #3

Nimrod vs. Juggernaut plus lots of little extra powers displayed by Nimrod.

Nimrod pwns.

Scan Only #4

Nimrod's sensors

Adapting to attacks

Nimrods disintegration ray is more thorough then Ultrons.

Stryker used Nimrods arm to freeze the O.N.E. Sentinels.

Nimrod pwns hard.

FIN

We've torn down enemy defenses.

We've shown how our characters hit harder, are by far harder to affect, heal fast, and are far, far, far more versatile.

We have a prepared plan that will be initiated from start, where as our opponents have a cobbled together plan that they suggested after their write-up... so ours will happen first, and will cover every defense they have.

We can recover from, adapt to and simply outdo anything they throw at us.

We win.

Thus is Scotland owned. Not in the match itself (I've only read parts) but because Scoob checks out at about 7-8PM EST most nights, or earlier. I hope leo's depriving his wife of his manly physique tonight, or you guys are going to get the last 6-7 posts. No fault of yours...you're just doing your job as participants. But as an observer, it's unfortunate that such a long period of posting goes without a chance for a rebuttal.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Thus is Scotland owned. Not in the match itself (I've only read parts) but because Scoob checks out at about 7-8PM EST most nights, or earlier. I hope leo's depriving his wife of his manly physique tonight, or you guys are going to get the last 6-7 posts. No fault of yours...you're just doing your job as participants. But as an observer, it's unfortunate that such a long period of posting goes without a chance for a rebuttal.
I had a bottle of booze delivered to Scoob's house, and a mock porn bill sent to Leo's wife.

This was no coincidence.

😂

....poor leo's wife. At least Scoob gets to get trashed.

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
[b]Pocket battlefield

Scoob says: The ship doesn't have the specs! It has a digital manual covering how to use it!

OK then, make our jobs easier...

Nimrod DLs the manual.

Moving on... [/B]

I, frankly, don't have the time at this moment to read through everything since my last post (leaving in 5 minutes) but this needed a response.

An instruction manual to a device that's 20 feet wide in a massive city? I don't see that being useful at all.

Manual's certainly don't tell you how to build the items ... how many of you got instruction books with your computers or phones? did they come with info on how to construct your own? Mine didn't.

PB is tiny in comparison to the city ... and it glows pink ... why would we ever go into it? (if they can bring it along that is)

What else ... uh ... Vector ... every decent feat of his involves single direction blasts ... he has no idea where we are and we're also using a distraction tactic (see OP)

Nimrod, regardless of the fact that there ONLY sonics scan states that he uses a "tight beam" version on Juggernaut, they believe this means that it can go omni directional.
... it can't (that's why it's called "tight beam" in the first place)

Increased height wouldn't increase the sonic frequency of your speakers.

ok ... Don't think I have time for anything else ... um - Reality ripping >>> defenses that can't fuly push back Prof Hulk or stop COlossus.

If I had ten more minutes I'd post scans of Nimrod getting busted up by Leland/Shaw and one where Colossus craks his armour just by grabbing him ... but I don't have ten minutes (and I think the deadline is in about 4 minutes anyway)

Sooo ...
our output >>> their output
our invulnerability >>> their invulnerability
our team name >>> their team name
I'm late for work
s**t ... gotta go, cyas later.

🙂

GG BTW.

Sorry Delph, I just started reading this match.

[Leo's last post was made at 4:26am. Judges, please disregard. Bada, please edit his post and replace it with a General Zod pic...]

Not a match related post

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Thus is Scotland owned. Not in the match itself (I've only read parts) but because Scoob checks out at about 7-8PM EST most nights, or earlier.

I gotta get to work for/before 8am GMT (around midnight PST) ... you may have noted that I was late today.

😮

Yeah, honestly I feel that that really does work to the advantage of people in US time zones ... if we could perhaps have a shifting schedule from match to match it would even this out so as to be fair to everyone.

Probably wont happen though.

I just feel that people waiting until I (and/or other participants) can't respond is a little cheap ... even if it's not meant to be ... and possibly shows that they know their plans can be easily countered if there was time.

Maybe a point for later matches/future tourneys - perhaps adding an extra day time on the limit to allow for "reply only posts" - where no further offense can be made but gives participants the opportunity to address anything that is brought up last minute.

Not only fair to different time zones, but it allows everything to face cross examination - isn't that the point of a tournament based on debating?

Otherwise, what's to prevent a team in any given match to write up all their posts in MS Word (or whatever) then wait to the last 10 minutes of the last day and post everything at once in order to deprive their opponents a chance at rebuttal?

I honestly didn't have time to do more than skim through a couple of the posts made last night before I left this morning, saw the first point which grabbed my attention and replied to it, no time for anything else.

Not sure there's much point in reading through the rest now, I know that they'd only make me want to post replies which would probably just be deleted.

Anyway... on to the judging.

Judge Vote 1 of 3


Badabing wrote on Sep 20th, 2008 09:01 PM:

This was taxing to judge. I figured it would be because both teams are very capable in debating and comic book knowledge.

I'm going to keep it simple since there was so much going on.

Blair/Smurph. The points concerning the abilities of Nimrod/Pym/Vector appeared somewhat overstated imo. It seemed like a bit of a stretch that they could accomplish everything given the short amount of prep.

Leo/Scoob. I didn't completely buy that ussing Mandarin and Spiral to alter Magik so quickly and then to have the time to DL all the magical knowledge within the prep time. I wasn't totally convinced about their energy source.

I thought Scoob and Leo did a better job backing up their claims while picking apart some of the claims by team Blair/Smurph. I don't think Blair and Smurph had enough prep time to accomplish everything they stated. Given more prep time then it would have been plausible imo.

My choice came down to who I thought could do the most with their prep.

I vote Leo/Scoob.

Judge Vote 2 of 3


-V- wrote on Sep 21st, 2008 07:03 AM:

Great job, both sides.

Smurph and Blair, well done on your very complex and original plan, I had to read over your posts a few times before even understanding it fully, you also seemed to live up to your namesake with the PB. 😂

However, I think you out thought yourselves a little in making it a little too complicated, especially when it came to Noh Vahr's techonology; I'm still entirely unsure as to whether the PB would work, because it's from the Pink Pantheon and as Scoob pointed out manuals rarely show you how to create something, just how to use it.

Scoob and Leo, your plan was alot more simple and I think this was a good thing to be honest, however you spent much of the match on the back foot I believe and I really wasn't too sure whether you had the offensive output to take down "Arsenal" and co. but, you seemed alot more sound on the defensive side, mainly because of Brit (good pick).

Gah, as I write this, my vote sways from team to team and this match has ultimately been a massive pain in the arse to judge; however from a spectator's point of view, a great match to read.

My vote:

TIE. (I wish)

Lulz, B-DUB AND SMURPH.

One of the hardest matches I've had to judge, congratulations to B-Dub and Smurph, and well done to Scoobless and Leo who put up a great fight; I think if the match had gone on for another day, you might have it it.

GG, lads.

Judge Vote 3 of 3

This match began looking like it was going to be very close, but most of the fight devolved into each team trying to tear down the basis for the other team's prep ahead of strengthening the standing of the abilities of their own rosters. However, Bdub/Smurph's gigantic Vector/Nimrod ominblast is, well, pretty much an end game. The pocket battlefield didn't pan out, so they just pulled out the big gun. The giant repel everything blast is kind of nasty.

Judge's Vote: Bdub/Smurph.

I thought Galan was the 3rd judge...?

Galan has withdrawn from judging for this tourney.