Ryu and Terry Bogard VS Shin Akuma and Zangief

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Shut up Sado. No one cares about your baseless opinions, assumptions, bias, and SF hate, or the fact that you still try to stroke Jinpachi cause he was a "threat to the planet".

Gouki never hit anyone with a Hadouken in the SF4 vid, and he was fighting Ryu, who is above a normal human in all aspects, so what doesn't vaporize Ryu, would do more damage to someone else. And who said his Hadoukens could disintegrate?

Gouki destroyed the island, he blew it to pieces with a punch. Said feat is>>>>>Anything anyone in Tekken has ever done. Stop dancing around that fact noob.

Jinpachi, who also has no real feats. You can wank that baseless threat to all the life on the planet shit all you want, but until Jinpachi gets a FEAT on par with Gouki he is curbstomped(awaits biased and generally stupid response claiming Jinpachi was a threat to all existence).

Who would stop Gouki if that was his goal? His punches would shatter whole buildings and destroy multiple city blocks, his durability would allow him to tank bullets, his speed would keep him from being hit, seriously. The only thing that might impede his ability to do such a thing is lack of flight.

What feats does he have on Iori's level? Seriously, I EMPLORE you to tell me. 🙂 And said old dying man with leukimia was still strong enough to kill with a slight touch and is so far the ONLY person to survive the Shun Goku no Satsu, but in a typical fashion you ignore the context and actuality of these things for the sake of the debate. And Gouki beat Gen, wtf are you talking about?

Well he only smashed a meteor in a noncanon game, who has said that recently? If no one, shut up.

A city? I was under the impression it was a stadium, not a whole bloomin city. Likely another overhyping of your character. And Gouki destroyed an island with a mountain range with a punch, while not Shin. Whoa.

In their noncanon fight? I expected better of you Sado, can Terry Bogard beat Demitri fvcking Maximov now?

A Shun Goku no Satsu MIGHT work on Hulk, but yeah, Hulk wins at least 9/10.

Other than his hair was not white and his aura was not different? Hell, he didn't even have an aura! 😐

And he no longer considers Ryu worthy.

So shut up.

QFT

But I suggest you give it up Jaxx, Sado is relentless and won't listen to a word anyone says because he has his tongue so far up Tiamat's @$$ he can't see the forest for the trees... 😛

PS: j/k

M-my post was good? cry

But I suggest you give it up Jaxx, Sado is relentless and won't listen to a word anyone says because he has his tongue so far up Tiamat's @$$ he can't see the forest for the trees.

Gouki never hit anyone with a Hadouken in the SF4 vid, and he was fighting Ryu, who is above a normal human in all aspects, so what doesn't vaporize Ryu, would do more damage to someone else. And who said his Hadoukens could disintegrate?

Gouki destroyed the island, he blew it to pieces with a punch. Said feat is>>>>>Anything anyone in Tekken has ever done. Stop dancing around that fact noob.

Jinpachi, who also has no real feats.

You can wank that baseless threat to all the life on the planet shit all you want, but until Jinpachi gets a FEAT on par with Gouki he is curbstomped(awaits biased and generally stupid response claiming Jinpachi was a threat to all existence).

Who would stop Gouki if that was his goal? His punches would shatter whole buildings and destroy multiple city blocks, his durability would allow him to tank bullets, his speed would keep him from being hit, seriously. The only thing that might impede his ability to do such a thing is lack of flight.

What feats does he have on Iori's level? Seriously, I EMPLORE you to tell me.

And said old dying man with leukimia was still strong enough to kill with a slight touch and is so far the ONLY person to survive the Shun Goku no Satsu, but in a typical fashion you ignore the context and actuality of these things for the sake of the debate. And Gouki beat Gen, wtf are you talking about?

Well he only smashed a meteor in a noncanon game, who has said that recently? If no one, shut up.

city? I was under the impression it was a stadium, not a whole bloomin city. Likely another overhyping of your character. And Gouki destroyed an island with a mountain range with a punch, while not Shin. Whoa.

A Shun Goku no Satsu MIGHT work on Hulk, but yeah, Hulk wins at least 9/10.

Other than his hair was not white and his aura was not different? Hell, he didn't even have an aura!

And he no longer considers Ryu worthy.

M-my post was good?

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
who told you that i....?!
err....i mean, i don't know what you're talking about 😮

the damage done to the ground would tell us then. not only was the damage done after several hadouken barely visible but it was shallow. and need i mention his "aim" 😂

jin wrecked forest. fact.
jinpachi threat to existence. fact.
true ogre trembled the earth with a powerup. fact.

tossed giant boulder, while tied with chains. surived underground for 50 years (who was feeding him considering hachi himself needed to be REMINDED about jinpachi and honmaru in T5)
neither does gen. never stopped you from wanking him. neither does ken too. neither does charlie, guile or chunli 😐
psst....neither does Bison.

lifted giant boulder and tossed it aside like it was a toy T5😄R intro. caused climatic anamolies (T5 endings).

yes...because could barely do any damage to the freakin gruond. what speed? 😕

what?

survived SGS cuz he emptied his soul (whatever the f00k that means). it was his durability but his "power-of-nothingness" that allowed him to do so. otherwise gou-overrated-ki would've killed him in their first encounter. gouki never beat gen. they stalemated, but gen considered it a loss since gouki saw Gen coughin blood. gouki realized he was dying and just left him. SFA3, gen most likely beat gouki and spared him.

time is an illusion 😄

i'll proove it eventually....

SGS won't work on hulk cuz hulk is immune to even immaterial attacks, can see ghostly creatures. and if he is taken to hell, you know what will happen: HULK SMASH!!! *kills all demons and tears akuma a new one*
you're talking about a guy who could bust an asteriod twice the size of earth with a punch and could hold open a black hole.
don't even joke about a-overrated-kuma winning this one.

the SAME person. shinakuma is only an affect for telling the difference INGAME.

? so why is he picking on poor eunuch boy? 🙁

for a f@g, yes 😆

~Sado

2. ...I never said they could disintegrate, and we never saw what damage they really did to the ground, and they never hit anyone, so we can't tell what they would have done. Every blast however did have a blast of flame that rose 15 feet in the air with every shot.

3. Wrecked a small section of forest.

Not a real feat, and is less vague than any of the things you like to nitpick.

Yet lost to Jin. 😐

4. He was DEAD for 50 years, Devil revived him. And said boulder was not even as big as Gouki's sunken ship, the island, or Ayer's Rock. Whoa.

Gen does have some feats...But I also have never debated Gen. 😐 Nor have I debated ANYONE you just mentioned, except Bison, who DOES have feats.

5. Been over the boulder, and what climatic disasters?

6. The Hadoukens did not, I was talking about his uber haxx punches and shit. So nice strawman. His bullet dodging speed.

7. Is it really THAT hard to figure out what I meant? What Iori feats are on Gouki's level? And what Rugal feats? And if you say Rugal has beaten Gouki, fvck you, if we allow that, Gouki smashed a meteor.

8. Dur. Gouki left when Gen started coughing up blood, he didn't wanna beat up a man who was ill. And I do not care what Gen "most likely" did, he never was confirmed to do it.

9. Shin Gouki is Gouki letting loose all his power.

10. How the hell should I know? Maybe cause Ryu picked a fight with him?

11. Homophobe.

next time try give a numbers even in other's quote in this case... I'm confused when read this stuff. -_-

1. Loser.

2. ...I never said they could disintegrate, and we never saw what damage they really did to the ground, and they never hit anyone, so we can't tell what they would have done. Every blast however did have a blast of flame that rose 15 feet in the air with every shot.

3. Wrecked a small section of forest.

Not a real feat, and is less vague than any of the things you like to nitpick.

Yet lost to Jin.

4. He was DEAD for 50 years, Devil revived him. And said boulder was not even as big as Gouki's sunken ship, the island, or Ayer's Rock. Whoa.

Gen does have some feats

But I also have never debated Gen. Nor have I debated ANYONE you just mentioned, except Bison, who DOES have feats.

5. Been over the boulder, and what climatic disasters?

6. The Hadoukens did not, I was talking about his uber haxx punches and shit. So nice strawman. His bullet dodging speed.

7. Is it really THAT hard to figure out what I meant? What Iori feats are on Gouki's level? And what Rugal feats? And if you say Rugal has beaten Gouki, fvck you, if we allow that, Gouki smashed a meteor.

8. Dur. Gouki left when Gen started coughing up blood, he didn't wanna beat up a man who was ill. And I do not care what Gen "most likely" did, he never was confirmed to do it

9. Shin Gouki is Gouki.

10. How the hell should I know? Maybe cause Ryu picked a fight with him?

11. Homophobe.

~Sado

I am sick of this "Gouki's fireballs didn't damage the ground and he can't aim" argument.

Gouki wants Ryu ALIVE. He's trying to entice Ryu. He wants Ryu to unleash his full power. Why on earth would he try to hit Ryu or throw full powered fireballs that might harm him ?

I am sick of this "Gouki's fireballs didn't damage the ground and he can't aim" argument. Gouki wants Ryu ALIVE. He's trying to entice Ryu. He wants Ryu to unleash his full power. Why on earth would he try to hit Ryu or throw full powered fireballs that might harm him

Originally posted by Jayct
I am sick of this "Gouki's fireballs didn't damage the ground and he can't aim" argument.

Gouki wants Ryu ALIVE. He's trying to entice Ryu. He wants Ryu to unleash his full power. Why on earth would he try to hit Ryu or throw full powered fireballs that might harm him ?

it damages the ground. you can see how explosive his tenma gou zankuu.

and... he can aim. but Ryu dodge his tenma gou zankuu. it is so simple.

Originally posted by Sado22
reallly? he called him a pathetic weakling and tosses him around like a rag doll and he's interested in ryu? shite just keeps getting better and better! that's why gouki doesn't even bother with him in any of the SF3's 😆

I guess he is only interested in Ryu's satsui no hadou.

nah. gouki's an old lonely man. 😄

Add Bison to the list of people who have survived the Shungokusatsu...oh Gouken too.

gouki never did the SGS to gouken.

Oh?

Gouki did use the SGS on Gouken, Gouken beat him but backed down, he could not kill his brother, Gouki had no such qualms and got back up and charged him head on and hit him with an SGS.

I thought Bison only survive because he like...Can revive himself and shit? Isn't Bison effectively immortal?

WHAT THE FVCK!?

I had a fvcking HUGE post typed out, but it wouldn't let me fvcking submit it because I had too many fvcking smilies!?

Jaxx got pawned.

Please don't make me start debating this shit again....

Jaxx got pawned

Originally posted by Sado22
gouki never did the SGS to gouken.

Originally posted by Sado22
the damage done to the ground would tell us then. not only was the damage done after several hadouken barely visible but it was shallow. and need i mention his "aim"

As for his "aim", I mentioned several times in my previous debate with Terry that his Shakunetsu-gouhadoukens in the anime trailer were not meant to hit Ryu in the first place - rather they were there to just spite him. Basically at that point Ryu was facedown in the dirt, pwned in other words, and Gouki took the opportunity to fly around happily to make fun of him by throwing fireballs around him.

Originally posted by Sado22
can impale people with his hands

Originally posted by Sado22
teleport

Originally posted by Sado22
has invinciblilty frames

-Startup of SGS
-Startup to Mid - Gou Shoryuken
-High Air+HK (Alpha 3 exclusive)

Originally posted by Sado22
and can shoot giant fireballs multiple times (that take half your godamn life btw and actually do some damage unlike Gouki). all seem like feats to me.

They're meant to be ki focused as energy to emulate a blow. Tiamat's guide listed the Hadouken as feeling like a very well-placed straight kick.

Focused ki energy vs real fireballs, obviously there will be a difference. The two can't really be compared, they're in separate leagues.

Originally posted by Sado22
gouki can sink island but can't beat a pansy

(FWD)

reallly? he called him a pathetic weakling and tosses him around like a rag doll and he's interested in ryu? shite just keeps getting better and better! that's why gouki doesn't even bother with him in any of the SF3's

Gouki HAD Ryu beaten. Ryu's facedown in the dirt and unable to move, I think that's a pretty clear sign of an asskicking.

He could have easily killed Ryu if he wanted to, but he senses the hidden potential behind Ryu that would make him a worthy challenger. The mentality between Ryu and Gouki is very common knowledge to followers of the SF story by now.

As Jayct and Dark Jaxx said, Gouki is trying to force Ryu to embrace the Satsui no Hadou, as to become a worthy foe to fight. However, Ryu refuses to - hence the use of "spineless coward" - despite getting a huge beating and causes Gouki to become continually frustrated by his refusal to tap into his hidden potential.

Before Gouki sunk his island with Ryu on it, he taunts Ryu and says it himself, even.