Serious characters who later became jokes/losers

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Serious characters who later became jokes/losers

Recently I was looking at the original Champion (Elder of the Universe) appearance and how different he was to what he became later on. He started out as a deadly, unbeatable and honorable fighter and seemed reasonably intelligent as well.

Later (perhaps around the time of Thanos Quest) he became a brutish idiot, and later still he just seemed to be a bit of a joke, with characters like She-Hulk beating him.

It's kind of hard for characters to recover from such treatment.

It made me wonder - what other characters out there were introduced as serious characters, but had later writers turn them into jokes or complete idiots despite contradicting the earlier appearance(s)?

I know there are more (especially among the villains) but I can't think of any offhand...

Apoc

he could be such a threat (see ult xmen), yet he's barely a nuisance nowadays

95% of the villains in both Marvel and DC.

Darkseid, at least for a while. He's since started to regain his cred

Originally posted by Starscream M
Apoc

he could be such a threat (see ult xmen), yet he's barely a nuisance nowadays

By "nowadays" you mean that one bad BoA arc back in 2006.

galactus to a extent

Electro & Rhino O_o

Apoc.
Logan to some degree, but got downgraded.
Kingpin

Tiger Shark, Abomination ( guess that's why they killed him), Venom (somewhat), She Hulk (she's regaining some cred).

Beyonder
Dr Light

Venom

red hulk

I personally like Apoc he doesnt have many bad showings.

Spiderman

Why? See OND/BND

Hank Pym.
Even Stan Lee wonders why his character didn't take off.

Mongul.

Though it looks like DC may be trying to bring back some cred for him.

Originally posted by Avlon
Mongul.

Though it looks like DC may be trying to bring back some cred for him.

Not under his own power unfortunately...

Originally posted by roughrider
Hank Pym.
Even Stan Lee wonders why his character didn't take off.

cuz he sucks and always has

superman

Taskmaster.