ROTS Pre-Suit Vader vs. Galen Marek

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ROTS Pre-Suit Vader vs. Galen Marek

1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All out
Takes place on the Death Star I observation dome with Sidious as an observer.

Vader takes all three. why? because even though marek has all this crap that he can do, Vader is supposed to grow up to be 160% of sideous and has been a jedi for just as long, and unless marek is supposed to be more powerful then the chosen one... well... these movies are screwed.

^Agreed

yes but its not just about how long they were trained for, but about how extensive the training was. I can imagine Darth Vader not holding back on Galens training at all, and just teaching him how to go all out and kill jedis.

whilst Obi1 would always be trying to teach Anakin patience, and teaching him TO hold back.

anyway, Anakin will take the saber fight quite for sure.

but as for the Force, Galen is easily a match for suited Vader in that respect.. and we know suited Vader has grown much stronger with his use of the Force than he ever was as Anakin..
Also we see in the new clone wars movie how Dooku overpowers Anakin in the Force.. and in ROTS he stalemates Obi1 in the Force Push each other scene.

So Galen takes the Force fight quite comfortably.

All out? I dnt knw.. its always difficult to tell when one opponent is so much better in sabers, but the other much better in the Force. But I think im leaning towards Galen.

Marek FTW.

Marek loses the sabers, takes the force and the all-out.

1. Sabers - Vader, 10/10.
2. Force - Marek, 8/10.
3. All Out - Vader, 7/10.

ow. it hurts star wars when the "chosen one" is beat down in force by some punk.

Considering that almost eighteen years pass between the end of RotS and the end of TUF, it's possible that Marek may have had more tutoring than Skywalker.

Originally posted by Faunus
Considering that almost eighteen years pass between the end of RotS and the end of TUF, it's possible that Marek may have had more tutoring than Skywalker.

It's a shame we never see Vader's full display of Force powers before he's in the suit. His saber ability certainly increases, which would imply Force powers. But the only fight scene while he's Vader is against Obi-Wan, when his psychological state is so screwed up he can only stalemate his former master in Force Power.

Just after he gets put in the suit, his Force Scream crushes the entire medical bay...insinuating that indeed, his Force abilities were no joke.

That, and many of Galen's feats are "exaggerated" because of the nature of the video game.

Yeah its not that exaggerated. He slows down an SD with EXTREME difficulty, in fact he barely avoids it. It is still impressive but still. He did however electrocute a Sarlaac with force lightning. But he struggled against SHAAK TI, I mean come on she couldn't beat GG with the support of four other Jedi. Galen might even lose to Pre-Suit Vader in the force

The SD point is completely accurate. He manipulates an already falling ship, and nearly gets killed because once he crashes it, he can't stop it.

Very cool.

Id say GM takes all three. His force feats are very impressive, like the before mentioned eletrocuting the sarlacc and bringing down the star destroyer. Towards the end of his fight with Vader he tosses him around like a rag doll, and he even goes toe to toe with the Emperor and holds off his lightning bare handed for a good while. What have we seen from Anakin that is comparable to these feats?

And yes GM struggled with Shaak Ti but that was earlier in the game, his powers are much greater towards the end. That should be obvious since he gets owned by Vader after his fight with Shaak Ti, but then at the end GM defeats Vader straight up.

Also to anyone saying that the feats in TFU are exaggerated, thats a lame excuse. How is it more exaggerated than people blowing up stars or ripping up star fleets? But in any case, the feats are canon. The end.

Originally posted by Enyalus
It's a shame we never see Vader's full display of Force powers before he's in the suit. His saber ability certainly increases, which would imply Force powers. But the only fight scene while he's Vader is against Obi-Wan, when his psychological state is so screwed up he can only stalemate his former master in Force Power.

Just after he gets put in the suit, his Force Scream crushes the entire medical bay...insinuating that indeed, his Force abilities were no joke.

That, and many of Galen's feats are "exaggerated" because of the nature of the video game.

Actually in the ROTS video game cutscene, presuit vader was able to force lift a massive temple statue and sent it flying like a missle.

Yeah, but I doubt that that was Canon.

It is canon according to leland chee.

Marek, probably.

Vader takes the sabers, but loses the rest. I despise Marek's character.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Vader takes the sabers, but loses the rest. I despise Marek's character.

Meh I thought he was a great character. He actually had the balls to storm in to the Death Star and fight Vader and the Emperor.....unlike Obi wan and Yoda who prefer to sit on their ass.

I hate his character for the power he's given. Every game, the writers have to up the ante. It's becoming tiring.