CAPCOM VS SNK:Villans

Originally posted by Vampire Savior
1.The abilities are.
2.So
3.His weapon, which uses is own power, and the ability is canon. I swear if you can't comprehend that then there is no need to go any further in this debate. you and Sado are like the only guys on KMC who brings nothin new to the table, peeps can not have decent debates wit you 2. I find my self arguin wit y'all about the same thing all the time no matter what characters are involved in the thread. I'm startin to think y'all the same person.
4.Pryokenesise means he can control and move fire, psychokinesis means Bison can control and move ANYTHING.
5.OMG Fuma, I really hope yur not sayin it's not. bison can fly out of the atmosphere and spam Psycho Shots.

1. then I can also say KOF zillion shows how they fought since SNK involved. and did you have a proof that udon's abilities are canon?
2. just an ability
3. his psycho drives is where he can channel his negative energy to the world. if he can destroy a city without his psycho drives then he don't need to make a pscyho drive. same person? don't make me laugh. I can show you some of my pm box. I just hate Bison for his lame fight despite of his godlike power but if he's that strong then I'll admit it.
4. cannot control Ken, Sakura, Ryu and Sagat. and even he retreated. can't even control 13 girl and retreated.
5. when did it happen?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
1. then I can also say KOF zillion shows how they fought since SNK involved.
2. just an ability
3. same person? don't make me laugh. I can show you some of my pm box. I just hate Bison for his lame fight despite of his godlike power but if he's that strong then I'll admit it. let's continue. his psycho drives is where he can channel his negative energy to the world. if he can destroy a city without his psycho drives then he don't need to make a pscyho drive
4. cannot control Ken, Sakura, Ryu and Sagat. and even he retreated. can't even control 13 girl and retreated.
5. when did it happen?

Originally posted by Vampire Savior
1.No you can't, the creators didn't say it was canon ability, nor is it a canon game.
2.?
3.He can destroy a city wit out the Drive in Alpha 3. it would just kill him in the process cuz he can't handle all the power himself.
4.Bison can't control the likes Sagat, Ryu, Ken and Sakura all at the same time, their too strong for that. Nobody knows what REALLY happened in the fight, maybe Bison did toss peeps around wit his psychic powers. AND Bison NEVER retreated from the dolls, either yur Sado or you've been lettin his BS go to yur head. Do you even ask him to prove the things he says like you do erbody you don't agree wit?
5. He flies outta the atmosphere in some bodies endin, I forgot which 1 but when I remember, I'll tell you.

1. I'll ask you again : did you have a proof that udon's abilities are canon?
3. proof?
4. BS? then is this a BS? :

Originally posted by SF plot guide
During the Zero series and especially SFZ3, Vega is extremely powerful.
Due to how much the official storyline of SFZ3 differs from various aspects
of the game's portrayal (Mainly, Vega dying in EVERYONES' ending), the game does
a horrible job of showing this. In actuality, Vega managed to fight Ken
and Sakura, then finally had to retreat when Ken, Sakura, Sagat, and Ryu
(who had broken out of his brainwashing) all ganged up on him, then he ran
into Rose and had to beat her, then he had to terminate Juli, Juni, Cammy,
and the rest of the Dolls, and all thirteen of them attacked him, forcing
him to retreat from them (But not before almost killing all of them), then
he had to deal with Nash and Guile, and he -FINALLY- was taken down when
his entire base and the psycho drive blew up with him in it, thanks to
Nash. And all this in a very short time frame (Rose most likely took
place shortly before Cammy because Vega told Rose that he was waiting for
someone, whom was most likely Cammy, and Guile blowing up Shadaloo's base
took place shortly after because Chun-Li most likely spotted Cammy in the
base heading for the psycho drive).

he only fought Ken and Sakura while Sagat fought Ryu. don't tell me Ken and Sakura were too heavy for Bison to handle. seriously, I hate how he was overhyped and overrated despite his lame fight.

5. I'll wait.

...Wait, so when he ran away from 13 Dolls, he actually almost killed them all? 😐

And that is such a terrible feat how?

I saw this as a terrible fight. those 13 dolls has no feats and only have a small percentage of his power. almost killed them or not, in the end he retreated from these girls while he had much more power than those dolls.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
I saw this as a terrible fight. those 13 dolls has no feats and only have a small percentage of his power. almost killed them or not, in the end he retreated from these girls while he had much more power than those dolls.

And ever consider he was not in top shape? He just got done fighting Ken, Sakura, Sagat, and Ryu, three of them top tiers, then beat Rose, then was ambushed by Juli, Juni, Cammy, and the other Dolls, almost killed them all, and then was finally only killed when the Psycho Drive and his whole base went boom by Guile and some dude named Nash, who I am just gonna randomly assume is the Japanese name for Charlie lol.

he want to terminate the dolls but in the end he retreated? how could? he want to terminate them and finally he retreated. if you know something then tell me what happened. all I know is those 13 girls attacking him and even though Bison almost killing all them, in the end he was forced to retreated... again.

Wouldn't have anything to do with there being guys trying to blow up his Psycho Drive now would it?

Circumstantial evidence does not exist! Only Bison's weakness exists! dur

Bison IS usin his own power. His power is fueled by the negative energies in the world

Bison IS usin his own power. His power is fueled by the negative energies in the world

In SFII Bison had a weak body so he couldn't generate the power he once had.

...Wait, so when he ran away from 13 Dolls, he actually almost killed them all? And that is such a terrible feat how?

1.No you can't, the creators didn't say it was canon ability, nor is it a canon game.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
retreat is the key word there. oh and Tiamat was making a conjecture about them nearly dying actually. fail.

Because they were in his base killing his Drives. 😐

And why assume they are weak? Featless characters were supposedly able to hang with an established God-Tier, but because of that we assume both are weak? Fail logic is fail.

nearly killing dolls bit is a CONJECTURE made by Tiamat and not a canonical fact. RETREAT is the canonical fact hence we pay attention to that. Me saying ryu won SF2 is MY conjecture but its not a fact.

foo 😠

Prove it was a conjecture, Tiamat puts the canon facts in his FAQs straight from the guides.

when he says "probably" it makes it a conjecture. dah. also IIRC he said it was a conjecture. fact of the matter is, as long as it is NOT canon, its canon. as long as Tiamat isn't saying that its out of the guides, its NOT canon.

~Sado

And where the hell do you see "probably?"

And when did he say it was a conjecture?

.......go look for it 😎

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
1. I'll ask you again : did you have a proof that udon's abilities are canon?
3. proof?
4. BS? then is this a BS? :

he only fought Ken and Sakura while Sagat fought Ryu. don't tell me Ken and Sakura were too heavy for Bison to handle. seriously, I hate how he was overhyped and overrated despite his lame fight.

5. I'll wait.

Originally posted by Sado22
read that again....and slap yourself in the head 😬
here let me help you:

Originally posted by Sado22
retreat is the key word there. oh and Tiamat was making a conjecture about them nearly dying actually. fail.

Originally posted by Sado22
no but they created a movie for it themselves. the director of Zillion AND koFKyo said they were semi-canon...just like Udon.:

You see, out of all the comics and movies SF has I only use 2, UDON and SFA movie cuz those are the ones said to use canon abilities. That's it.

1. I and many others have posted the Newsarama Udon interview too many times to count which is why I get just a lil irritated when asked to prove it over and over again.
3. Like, I still don't get it.
4. Is that an official source AND NOT TIAMAT. And you guys failed to mention the fact that Bison damn near killed'em before retreatin'.
Y'all down played Bison to horrible lvls to make the characters you like look better, c'mon? And I want to see another source (official) sayin he retreated and that he fought ONLY Ken and Sakura when I can easily assume he didn't and be just as correct. From the looks of things, he killed the dolls seein as how nothin even mentions them beyond SFA3. Hell, I'm wit fan made faq guides all the way (most of the time and Tiamat is pretty damn good) but I'm not down wit just assumin somethin if there is evidence that that "somethin" isn't even true or there is a lack of evidence that that "somethin" even happened.

1. if you don't want to proof it then it's finished. but while you don't want to give me the statement that udon's ability are canon, you asked sado the statement about KOF zillion's ability are canon or not?
3. when did it was stated that Bison can destroy city but it would destroy himself?
4. then what about this quote from plot guide?

Plot guide of all games that officially exist within the canon Street Fighter storyline, and how they fit into what has been officially confirmed as canon by Capcom of Japan.

he didn't retreat when he fought Ken and Sakura. but when Ryu and Sagat come to help them, he got hit by Ryu's shoryuken and just because he didn't want to fight 4 of them so he retreated.

SNK Stomp.

Based on what? The featless wonder Orochi?