2 Great teams fight

from Armor, so technically all Bishamon was is a soul, all ive read is he removed the soul from armor because the armor was enchanted, can you show me this information please.

So he actually hit pyron? can you prove it? or are you simply assuming "because" he can do so, you assume he hit pyron and used all his attacks.

Not ncesserily, it just freezes the being hit, there is no area, if Pyron was hit by an incapaciation blast he would freeze since his size would be irrelvent, Incapaciation is not based on area, only the AOE reaver time spell is. hell the bolt itself is tiny so its area is irrelvent.

Originally posted by Burning thought
from Armor, so technically all Bishamon was is a soul, all ive read is he removed the soul from armor because the armor was enchanted, can you show me this information please.

So he actually hit pyron? can you prove it? or are you simply assuming "because" he can do so, you assume he hit pyron and used all his attacks.

Not ncesserily, it just freezes the being hit, there is no area, if Pyron was hit by an incapaciation blast he would freeze since his size would be irrelvent, Incapaciation is not based on area, only the AOE reaver time spell is. hell the bolt itself is tiny so its area is irrelvent.

2. Can you prove that Spirit Wrack would even work on Pyron, when the only time we ever see of it it doesn't hurt weak LOK bosses? Hell, from what I hear said spell is optional, can you even prove that in canon Kain has it? Pyron fought Bishamon, a soul stealer, and not only won, he did it rather easily at that. Oh and btw...It takes a strong mind and soul to even really exist in Makai. Pyron can EAT Makai.

And besides, if Pyron stays out of whatever planet they are in's orbit, Kain couldn't even hit him with it anyway...

3. So Kain should be able to freeze the planet if he hit it with it? Or freeze whole buildings? Lol.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. ...I'm not even sure what you are asking me here. 😐

2. Can you prove that Spirit Wrack would even work on Pyron, when the only time we ever see of it it doesn't hurt weak LOK bosses? Hell, from what I hear said spell is optional, can you even prove that in canon Kain has it? Pyron fought Bishamon, a soul stealer, and not only won, he did it rather easily at that. Oh and btw...It takes a strong mind and soul to even really exist in Makai. Pyron can EAT Makai.

And besides, if Pyron stays out of whatever planet they are in's orbit, Kain couldn't even hit him with it anyway...

3. So Kain should be able to freeze the planet if he hit it with it? Or freeze whole buildings? Lol.

1. I was saying thats not a soul attack, its an energy attack that happened to remove the soul from the armors enchantment, he broke hte armors enchantment, ime asking where can you find me your evidence?

2. A bit of a straw man here, it seems to me then that it doesnt actually say whether Bishimon actually hit Pyron or not, for all you know the thing didnt put up much of a fight. Now your using Gameplay, Terry league that is, I thot you were above that....Sure, Kain tells us he has it. How do you know he can Eat makai? does it say it? probably without any defence but if Demitri, not even a top tier of Makai can defeat Pyron the entire Makai race would certainly do him in even quicker.

3. obviously it only works on beings, not objects since that doesnt happen when he uses it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. I was saying thats not a soul attack, its an energy attack that happened to remove the soul from the armors enchantment, he broke hte armors enchantment, ime asking where can you find me your evidence?

2. A bit of a straw man here, it seems to me then that it doesnt actually say whether Bishimon actually hit Pyron or not, for all you know the thing didnt put up much of a fight. Now your using Gameplay, Terry league that is, I thot you were above that....Sure, Kain tells us he has it. How do you know he can Eat makai? does it say it? probably without any defence but if Demitri, not even a top tier of Makai can defeat Pyron the entire Makai race would certainly do him in even quicker.

3. obviously it only works on beings, not objects since that doesnt happen when he uses it.

2. True, but since they fought, it can be assumed Pyron has some resistance. Kain tells he has it in the in-game description, and that is only IF he gets it, it is optional. I know he can eat Makai because if not stopped that is what he would have done. Demitri isn't a top-tier in Makai? Lol wut? When Pyron came to Earth, Demitri was THE strongest Darkstalker, the only known DSers above him are Galen, Jedah, and Belial, all of which are dead, and once again, Demitri fought self weakened Mortal Pyron. Not full power.

3. Or, the objects are too big.

And besides...Pyron won't be hit by it anyway. Stays out of the atmosphere ftw. Kain won't be able to touch Pyron. 😐

"Heheh, look at that silly little green man, nigga can't even touch me."

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. He used his energy to break the link between the armor and Bishamon's body, mind, and SOUL, so his power can affect souls. It should be in the canon guide FAQ by Saiki I think in Pyron's thread, you want the link?

2. True, but since they fought, it can be assumed Pyron has some resistance. Kain tells he has it in the in-game description, and that is only IF he gets it, it is optional. I know he can eat Makai because if not stopped that is what he would have done. Demitri isn't a top-tier in Makai? Lol wut? When Pyron came to Earth, Demitri was THE strongest Darkstalker, the only known DSers above him are Galen, Jedah, and Belial, all of which are dead, and once again, Demitri fought self weakened Mortal Pyron. Not full power.

3. Or, the objects are too big.

And besides...Pyron won't be hit by it anyway. Stays out of the atmosphere ftw. Kain won't be able to touch Pyron. 😐

"Heheh, look at that silly little green man, nigga can't even touch me."

1. yes please, ive read of this and apprently he has only broken the enchantment that held the pieces together, not destroyed or removed a direct soul of any kind.

2. Its a speech from Kain which is in-universe, the fact its optional means nothing because the option is the player decision, player decisions are irrelvent to canon. Demitri wasnt a top tier, he wasnt S class which is top tier, he was A class ws he not?

3. That would not make sense since what would be the proportion? the bolt itself is tiny, current Kains bolts would be more powerful than the BO1 kains anyway

how will staying above the planet help him? Kain can move, dimensional jump ftw, he would be next to pyron in the blink of a mothers eye, Scion kain this could be too btw, since this is not a limited Kain.

lol...Kains no nigga, hes a white man biatch

KMC Kain solos.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. yes please, ive read of this and apprently he has only broken the enchantment that held the pieces together, not destroyed or removed a direct soul of any kind.

2. Its a speech from Kain which is in-universe, the fact its optional means nothing because the option is the player decision, player decisions are irrelvent to canon. Demitri wasnt a top tier, he wasnt S class which is top tier, he was A class ws he not?

3. That would not make sense since what would be the proportion? the bolt itself is tiny, current Kains bolts would be more powerful than the BO1 kains anyway

how will staying above the planet help him? Kain can move, dimensional jump ftw, he would be next to pyron in the blink of a mothers eye, Scion kain this could be too btw, since this is not a limited Kain.

lol...Kains no nigga, hes a white man biatch

An alien being hailing from the planet Hellstorm. After evolving over many eons, he became a cosmic being. Over the time of 200 million years, he sought to collect beautiful planets by consuming them. Originally, he came to Earth 65 million years ago and created the army of Phobos to destroy life on Earth. When he arrived on earth, he landed deep within the Atlantic ocean to wait for the right time to consume our planet. Capcom hasn't been too clear on what sort of devestation was inflicted on the earth by Pyron. But, he did cause trouble for the earth residing Makai.
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Many Makia encountered Pyron when he reappeared on Earth. His power drew out many Makai and could be felt even from the Makai world.

One night, a mysterious voice went through the night. "Those who live
in darkness, come to me." Ten darkstalkers answered to the call and arose.
At the same time, two darkhunters also came out of darkness.

This voice is mostly Pyron, seeing that he was the major antagonist.

The aquatic empire of Aulbath was shattered and destroyed by a tremendous earthquake and volcanic eruption. Which wiped out his entire race leaving the merman emperor and hero Aulbath as it's sole survivor. He was filled that Pyron was the one who caused the fall of his empire.

When Bishamon fought against Pyron, Pyron's energies caused Bishamon to be separated from Hannya's curse. "

Taken from t3h FAQ. The bottom concerns your question.

2. A speech? Kain explained it in a cutscene? So it isn't canon then? Then why does Kain get it? Dude, all the S classes in Makai were dead/incapacitated at the time, Galen and Belial are dead, and Jedah wasn't reborn yet. And Demitri is the strongest A class in the series, Morrigan is second, Donavan is 3rd.

3. What would be the proportion? Pyron is thousands of miles tall and wide...Saying Kain can freeze time of that proportion would be like me saying Pyron can grow as big as the universe or devour the universe.

Kain ever dimension jumped that distance? And you know what? All that would happen if he did was become frozen in space and unable to move. 😐

Yet another WTF? These are like the worst and most random teams ever assembled.

the team wit Pyron on it will win. LOL, you can take er body from team 2 and put'em on team 1 and Pyron will still win.

Pyron could stand a few light years away and do a Cosmic Disruption and kill er one

Originally posted by Vampire Savior
Pyron could stand a few light years away and do a Cosmic Disruption and kill er one

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I am pretty sure that is one of his moves, but I can't remember which one...

Here it is

2:30 to 2:50YouTube video

Now imagine that wit him bein a 1000 times bigger.

I had a feeling that was what it is.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. " Pyron
Height: ?
Weight: ?
Race: Alien
Birthplace: Hellstorm
Birthdate: 1991(this was when he took form on Earth)

An alien being hailing from the planet Hellstorm. After evolving over many eons, he became a [B]cosmic being. Over the time of 200 million years, he sought to collect beautiful planets by consuming them. Originally, he came to Earth 65 million years ago and created the army of Phobos to destroy life on Earth. When he arrived on earth, he landed deep within the Atlantic ocean to wait for the right time to consume our planet. Capcom hasn't been too clear on what sort of devestation was inflicted on the earth by Pyron. But, he did cause trouble for the earth residing Makai.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Many Makia encountered Pyron when he reappeared on Earth. His power drew out many Makai and could be felt even from the Makai world.

One night, a mysterious voice went through the night. "Those who live
in darkness, come to me." Ten darkstalkers answered to the call and arose.
At the same time, two darkhunters also came out of darkness.

This voice is mostly Pyron, seeing that he was the major antagonist.

The aquatic empire of Aulbath was shattered and destroyed by a tremendous earthquake and volcanic eruption. Which wiped out his entire race leaving the merman emperor and hero Aulbath as it's sole survivor. He was filled that Pyron was the one who caused the fall of his empire.

When Bishamon fought against Pyron, Pyron's energies caused Bishamon to be separated from Hannya's curse. "

Taken from t3h FAQ. The bottom concerns your question.

2. A speech? Kain explained it in a cutscene? So it isn't canon then? Then why does Kain get it? Dude, all the S classes in Makai were dead/incapacitated at the time, Galen and Belial are dead, and Jedah wasn't reborn yet. And Demitri is the strongest A class in the series, Morrigan is second, Donavan is 3rd.

3. What would be the proportion? Pyron is thousands of miles tall and wide...Saying Kain can freeze time of that proportion would be like me saying Pyron can grow as big as the universe or devour the universe.

Kain ever dimension jumped that distance? And you know what? All that would happen if he did was become frozen in space and unable to move. 😐 [/B]

1. yeh, so he can dispel curses with his energy klkl

2. well still, A class is still below S regardless, and yes Kain spoke himself, simple as, Kain>>anyone else especially on this forum.

3. No it wouldnt because there is no reason to belive he could do that, it would be completly random and baseless wheras ime simply saying the Incapaciate time freeze spell freezes beings of various sizes regardless of the fac the bolt itself is tiny.

Distance? its a dimension jump, whats further than jumping a dimension? nowhere, it would be like opening another door somewhrre and having it appear miles away, because your using dimensional movement, hes not actually going distance is he.

Why would he become frozen in space?

and what relevence is that move?

Originally posted by SHM
KMC Kain solos.

no wai coz KMC Sephiroth is in the thread as well! he would crush his team and the other!

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. yeh, so he can dispel curses with his energy klkl

2. well still, A class is still below S regardless, and yes Kain spoke himself, simple as, Kain>>anyone else especially on this forum.

3. No it wouldnt because there is no reason to belive he could do that, it would be completly random and baseless wheras ime simply saying the Incapaciate time freeze spell freezes beings of various sizes regardless of the fac the bolt itself is tiny.

Distance? its a dimension jump, whats further than jumping a dimension? nowhere, it would be like opening another door somewhrre and having it appear miles away, because your using dimensional movement, hes not actually going distance is he.

Why would he become frozen in space?

and what relevence is that move?

2. And there were no S classes at the time. 😐 And Pyron was mortal when he lost to Demitri, the A class. Yeah...But we never hear of said move again and wouldn't hear about it unless you choose to get it.

3. Then why can he freeze Pyron, who is larger than all of Nosgoth? Sure, it can freeze foes in LOK, but a whole planet? That's essentially all Pyron is, a giant planet(bigger than a planet actually) who fights back.

Because space is really really cold. 😐 Pyron can stay further away from Nosgoth than the moon, it would be too cold.

It would annihilate the planet and blow Kain to shit, or at least send him flying miles upon miles away, prolly further.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. A curse that was also a bind on the soul. It's not even really a curse, more like a leech.

2. And there were no S classes at the time. 😐 And Pyron was mortal when he lost to Demitri, the A class. Yeah...But we never hear of said move again and wouldn't hear about it unless you choose to get it.

3. Then why can he freeze Pyron, who is larger than all of Nosgoth? Sure, it can freeze foes in LOK, but a whole planet? That's essentially all Pyron is, a giant planet(bigger than a planet actually) who fights back.

Because space is really really cold. 😐 Pyron can stay further away from Nosgoth than the moon, it would be too cold.

It would annihilate the planet and blow Kain to shit, or at least send him flying miles upon miles away, prolly further.

1. A curse none the less, its the curse that was bound.

2. yes, if I choose, and what I choose is irrelvent to the canon game isnt it...

3. But he is still a being, his size technicalyl should be irrelvent since if you hit me in the stomach, my whole body feels it, thus the whole of Pyrons body should freeze, there is no reason to belive the bolt would not be able to freeze Pyron just because hes larger because everything in LOK is still larger than the tiny bolt, also this is Scion Kain, he would do what he wants with Pyron.

You think Kain will get cold?...the guys dead..what will that do?

How? can someone show me this move please in a image, i cant watch videos atm, not sure when ill get it back. Also this is assuming he can do allt he same powers at full size that he can do as a small.

Wait...WTF is stoppin Pyron from just standin really far away and blowin up the planet?

with what? and who said itwas a planet they were fighting on?

Originally posted by Burning thought
with what?

Originally posted by Burning thought

and who said itwas a planet they were fighting on?

energy blasts? the only time he has even destroyed a planet afaik is when he absorbs it, which is not instant.

Sure it does, if it wasnt a planet then Pyron cannot reall win.

Originally posted by Burning thought
energy blasts? the only time he has even destroyed a planet afaik is when he absorbs it, which is not instant.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Sure it does, if it wasnt a planet then Pyron cannot reall win.