Incest

Originally posted by lord xyz
You mean Mary I, Elizabeth I or Edward VI?

I don't think they were insane...nor do I think they were haemophilics.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Going to back that up?

Is incest having sexual realtions with a relative?

or perhaps simply having intercourse?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Is incest having sexual realtions with a relative?

or perhaps simply having intercourse?

Both would fall under the category, I would think.

hmm, so you dont actually have to have sex?, simply affections is incestuous?

😐

I notice the Egyptians are being mentioned.

Lemme put it this way...There is a reason King Tut had an egg shaped head. 😐

Originally posted by lord xyz
You mean Mary I, Elizabeth I or Edward VI?

I don't think they were insane...nor do I think they were haemophilics.

I was getting Edward VII confused with Edward VI.

http://www.sciencecases.org/hemo/hemo.asp

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I notice the Egyptians are being mentioned.

Lemme put it this way...There is a reason King Tut had an egg shaped head. 😐

Which had nothing to do with incest.

Originally posted by Burning thought
well regardless of motives it worked, they are one of the most powerful and perhaps the most notificed nations ever to excist and likely ever to excist.

I don't understand what you just said.

Originally posted by Devil King
I don't understand what you just said.

He's attributing the power the ancient Egyptians had at one time(s) to their (claimed) incestous culture, odd.

Or in laymen terms, ****ing your sister = military and economic might.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Actually, I only have brothers, but if I did, I would.

its just it ussally is

Originally posted by Robtard
He's attributing the power the ancient Egyptians had at one time(s) to their (claimed) incestous culture, odd.

Or in laymen terms, ****ing your sister = military and economic might.

Also see: Europe

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Also see: Europe

European incestuous unions to consolidate power were quit a bit different than the Pharaohs marrying their sisters. The former generally consolidated power and made treaties between separate existing powers/nations. The later was generally used to keep the bloodline "pure".

Originally posted by Robtard
European incestuous unions to consolidate power were quit a bit different than the Pharaohs marrying their sisters. The former generally consolidated power and made treaties between separate existing powers/nations. The later was generally used to keep the bloodline "pure".

But they were still banging their sisters and gaining power, albeit indirectly, because of it.

I'm actually interested to see evidence of the Egyptians actually partaking in incest. Not just symbolically, but actually.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But they were still banging their sisters and gaining power, albeit indirectly, because of it.

Generally not the case, their wasn't much gain in banging your sister when you were already Pharaoh or in-line to becoming, except for possible genetic defeats in your heirs apparent.

Originally posted by Devil King
I'm actually interested to see evidence of the Egyptians actually partaking in incest. Not just symbolically, but actually.

There's conflicting evidence through the dynasties, it seems to be accepted that it happened at times during the early dynasties and then dwindled down, and it's accepted by many in the field that they rarely were full siblings when it happened.

Edit: there were also Pharoahs who took their own daugthers as 2nd+ wives.

Originally posted by Robtard
There's conflicting evidence through the dynasties, it seems to be accepted that it happened at times during the early dynasties and then dwindled down, and it's accepted by many in the field that they rarely were full siblings when it happened.

I've read a lot about it, but I've yet to see any actual evidence that it happened in anything other than name only. Definitive, that is.

Originally posted by Robtard
Generally not the case, their wasn't much gain in banging your sister when you were already Pharaoh or in-line to becoming, except for possible genetic defeats in your heirs apparent.

Supposedly you had to marry (and probably have kids with) a princess in order to take the throne. Generations of power consolidation made it so that it was inevitably your sister or half sister.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/sexuality.htm

http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/womneg.htm

srug I don't know if either is backed up by more recent work.