Rank from most to least powerfull

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think Surfer can't put down Supes without exploiting his weaknesses? Has Supes ever been put down by less than Surfer's on panel "best"? If so, it seems a little unreasonable to act like he couldn't do it. Saying that he couldn't put him down for the majority is one thing(though I'd still be inclined to disagree), but acting like it could never happen is more than a little out there.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The AF>BB's scream Seriously. And Orion's stronger and faster than BB.
You have silver surfer so far above superman. without exploiting his weakness, surfer wouldn't be able to put superman down. this is about power. not versatility or weakness.

Ridiculous. Surfer does not need to exploit supes weakness to put him down. Surfer can deal out more damage than supes can. Not only that but he has better defensive capabilities because he is more durable than supes and has uber forcefields as well which makes putting him down even harder. Superman is faster than SS in battle( SS can certainly avoid alot of supes attacks while on his board though) but certainly not to the degree where he can overcome SS superior defensive and offensive capabilities. Superman is simply the strongest on the list but NOT the most powerful. Power is not analogous with strength.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer at his best, and Supers at his best, I'd say Supers isn't going to be put down by Surfer. Surfer at his best is doing things like manipulating cosmic forces. Superman at his best does things like beating down actual beings who are mightier.

Really cause from what I remember, Surfer at his best has taken down the Unilord, punked a Watcher, stalemated Mephisto, briefly stalemated Millinius, briefly stalemated Korvak, nearly killed Thor with a single blast, created a blackhole as a side effect of another energy blast, matched Thanos's power output while he was severely weakened, chumped Nova w/Worldmind, etc. So has Supes ever been put down by anything or anyone with less impressive displays of power than those?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Super's is faster in battle and that has to count.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And he's far stronger.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He's going to connect more blows by the sheer fact of his speed.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer's greatest powers happen to be blast. Which I just don't see doing as much harm to supers. especially since superman is far more mobile and faster in a one on one fight.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer at his best, and Supers at his best, I'd say Supers isn't going to be put down by Surfer. Surfer at his best is doing things like manipulating cosmic forces. Superman at his best does things like beating down actual beings who are mightier. Super's is faster in battle and that has to count. And he's far stronger. He's going to connect more blows by the sheer fact of his speed. Surfer's greatest powers happen to be blast. Which I just don't see doing as much harm to supers. especially since superman is far more mobile and faster in a one on one fight.

Supes speed advantage in battle while it will help him, will only give him the win if SS decides to go into an actual close quarter physical confrontation. This is easily avoidable as Ss himself is very fast and manoevrable on his board. Superman may be far stronger but that matters little as SS has a higher destructive output. Superman wont connect more blows because SS wont go into close quarter combat but can resort to blasting from a safe distance.

Superman primary method of defeating SS is through physical means, this however is not an efficient method considering SS already high durability level and his uber forcefields to supplement that durability. SS on the other hand has superior offensive attacks(blasts) which he wil be using on superman who has inferior defensive capabilities.

Really the question of who is more powerful between superman or SS is a retarded one.

Versatility does not equal power but neither does brute strength. Overall power is an all round assesment of the range and level of a persons abilities. Hence a versatile character who cannot use his powers on a high level is less powerful than a character that is less versatile( not neccessarily one dimensional but just less versatile) but can use his powers on a very high level.

Superman is not as versatile as surfer but is at a very high level when it comes to the powers he has. He is one of the top dogs in Dc in strength speed and durability.

The thing is that surfer is very versatile but can use almost all of his powers at the highest level. He is one of the top dogs if not THE top dog in marvel among top tiers in speed, durability,energy projection, energy manipulation, energy absorption,Matter manipulation,Forcefields etc. He has a much wider range of powers than superman and can use all these powers at the highest level. So it is very safe to say that he is more powerful.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Really cause from what I remember, Surfer at his best has taken down the Unilord, punked a Watcher, stalemated Mephisto, briefly stalemated Millinius, briefly stalemated Korvak, nearly killed Thor with a single blast, created a blackhole as a side effect of another energy blast, matched Thanos's power output while he was severely weakened, chumped Nova w/Worldmind, etc. So has Supes ever been put down by anything or anyone with less impressive displays of power than those?

Proof that Supes is definitely faster than Surfer in combat? Pretty much every feat of combat speed I've seen from both is unquantified so unless you're thinking of an instance I'm unaware of all that can really be said is that their speed is that they're both really fast in combat.

Are you sure that he's FAR stronger than someone who's stronger than the Hulk, can amp his strength to a virtually unlimited degree, and traded shots with Krosakis after he absorbed the powers of both Gladiator and the Uniforce? If so, I'm going to need to see some evidence to support the claim.

Proof? Also, this isn't about how they match up in a fight.

This isn't a battle thread, it's about who's more powerful. Supes's big thing is punching stuff with "planet busting" force, and he's never even actually done it. An energy blast from Surfer on the other hand has actually created a blackhole. So which would you say has a higher power output, a punch that MIGHT destroy a planet or a blast that WILL create a blackhole?

Originally posted by fangirl101
surfer may have caused a chain reaction to create a black hole. But Super's has pulled himself out of a double black hole. Thanos had trouble with one black hole and he's always been>>>Surfer. Surfer has never moved his hands or blast in multiple attack speeds. So what ever you think of surfer's battle speed, it ain't flying with me. Superman has beaten Dominus with a legitimate part of his power set.

Some people just wont learn....or they are trolling.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Some people just wont learn....or they are trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who are you talking about?

Not you in this thread.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Not you in this thread.

Originally posted by fangirl101
surfer may have caused a chain reaction to create a black hole.

Originally posted by fangirl101
But Super's has pulled himself out of a double black hole.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thanos had trouble with one black hole and he's always been>>>Surfer.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Surfer has never moved his hands or blast in multiple attack speeds. So what ever you think of surfer's battle speed, it ain't flying with me.

See how easy that was?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman has beaten Dominus with a legitimate part of his power set.

And way to cherry pick what portions of my post to respond to so you don't have to admit how off your initial statement was 😉 .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Supes has never tracked and reacted to someone in mid teleportation. So what ever you think of Surfer's combat speed, it ain't flying with me.

See how easy that was?

^translation: "since i have never actually witnessed the feat you mentioned since i don't read the comic, i have to base what little i know against what i know best, superman/ww feats...you know, since he/she impresses me oh so much. at the end of the day, that's what decides fights".

Originally posted by darthgoober
No chain reaction was ever mentioned. You're speculating.

Surfer's fought another herald while inside a blackhole and not only had he just re-energized an advanced high tech suit of armor, he did it while navigating his board through hyperspace and sustaining a forcefield around it. And you know what? Despite all that he was completely unaffected by the Black Hole's energies while in combat.

Then it's a good thing Surfer has as many feats featuring blackholes as he does to counter that kind of logic.

Supes has never tracked and reacted to someone in mid teleportation. So what ever you think of Surfer's combat speed, it ain't flying with me.

See how easy that was?

Sounds more like a low showing for Dominus than a high showing for Surfer. Hell, what high showings does Dominus have again aside from getting beaten by Supes?

And way to cherry pick what portions of my post to respond to so you don't have to admit how off your initial statement was 😉 .

Originally posted by fangirl101
I don't cherry pick. I am just too lazy to answer every response. Don't you know that by now? I been here like months now. Surfer in My opinion doesn't seem to be more powerful than Superman. Just more versatile. The Amped Infinity Man was able to bust the heads of two pantheon's of Gods. Some of whom were truly mightier than surfer. Like Takion with highfather's staff. And Superman was able to effectively pound away at the IM and cause IM to have to bfr him. That tells me that Supers is at the very height of the Subtranstier level.

nvr logic at it's "finest"

Originally posted by psycho gundam
😱 that didn't take long at all. lol

nvr logic at it's "finest"

Nvr for President!!!!! if Bush can do it, so can he.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I don't cherry pick. I am just too lazy to answer every response. Don't you know that by now? I been here like months now. Surfer in My opinion doesn't seem to be more powerful than Superman. Just more versatile. The Amped Infinity Man was able to bust the heads of two pantheon's of Gods. Some of whom were truly mightier than surfer. Like Takion with highfather's staff. And Superman was able to effectively pound away at the IM and cause IM to have to bfr him. That tells me that Supers is at the very height of the Subtranstier level.

So according to the comic anyone will planet shattering power can eventually hurt that Infinity Man. I guess Glads could hurt him as well.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
😱 that didn't take long at all. lol

nvr logic at it's "finest"

Originally posted by quanchi112
How isnt the Surfer more powerful? If you read dong youd realize that anyone with planet punching power would eventually hurt the Iman at that time. Surfer can destroy a planet and has on panel while Superman hasnt. Not saying he cant but we dont know how many punches it would take him. He wasnt bfr'd he was imprisoned in an energy field.

So according to the comic anyone will planet shattering power can eventually hurt that Infinity Man. I guess Glads could hurt him as well.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I don't cherry pick. I am just too lazy to answer every response. Don't you know that by now? I been here like months now. Surfer in My opinion doesn't seem to be more powerful than Superman. Just more versatile. The Amped Infinity Man was able to bust the heads of two pantheon's of Gods. Some of whom were truly mightier than surfer. Like Takion with highfather's staff. And Superman was able to effectively pound away at the IM and cause IM to have to bfr him. That tells me that Supers is at the very height of the Subtranstier level.