If you could re-do the PT

Started by Lord Knightfa112 pages

Originally posted by Gideon
a.) My first suggestion would be to have the first movie take place when Skywalker was a teenager or young adult, akin to when we were first introduced to Luke Skywalker. Perhaps we could have flashbacks of his discovery by the Jedi and his enslavement, but nothing to focus the entire exposition of a movie about. Though his background is important, his future is far moreso.
I like my idea of him being a rebel street racer a little better, but if you wanted to keep george lucas's story intact while making it somewhat better, this would be the way to go.

b.) No Naboo. Or if you're absolutely determined to keep it in, don't make it the center focus of the entire first movie. It's farfetched that Palpatine could springboard to ascendance based off of the whining of one misbegotten planet. Design a better springboard for him to leap off of.

Yes, maybe the actual start of the CIS's rise to power for instance?

c.) No Maul. Honestly, I like the idea of Sidious's silent and unstoppable minion, but he wasn't necessary at all. For all intents and purposes, his position as the assassin of Sidious's potential rivals and enemies was undefined in the movies, so he is not necessary.

I would like to have maul be anakin's first kill, and really what marks him as prodigious. Instead we see anakin get his ass kicked in 2 fights and only win one.

/agree
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d.) General Grievous, as written by Matthew Stover, is a more badass character than anyone this side of Gilad Pellaeon, Turr Phennir, or Moff Tarkin. Use the movies to flesh out his tactical brilliance and his proficiency in dueling.

Ya, from the movie we got "grievous is a coward, he will run and hide" and he got curbstomped by one jedi >.> when he had taken on four at a time. I would have liked to see him use each saber individually, which i expected when i sat down to watch the movie.

e.) Keep Qui-Gon Jinn. Liam Neeson is amazing. Perhaps he can die in the first or second movie, but his presence can be still used as the guiding focus between Obi-Wan and Anakin. Since Qui-Gon outranks Obi-Wan, we could keep the rapport between him and Anakin, and Qui-Gon would be a great excuse for Anakin to model himself off of: reckless and all that, instead of spontaneously being an ass like he is in Episode II. Perhaps Dooku could kill him as a test by the Emperor?

Replace mace with qui gon jinn. Same character, just different actor and name.

f.) NO MINIMALISM. Make it clear that the Republic vs. Separatist movement takes place in a galaxy with millions of worlds with tens of thousands of ships. We might not have the budget to see them all, but make it obvious. Clone Army must constitute billions of soldiers.

/agree. Millions is way to small, which is what she said in aotc.

g.) Place Jedi in a healthy light. These guys are reputed to be demi-gods. We don't need you to wankify their feats, but cement their reputation as feared warriors by the opposition that only great numbers of the strongest enemies can face.


h.) No droids. Based on early EU, the Clone Wars were intended to be clone on clone warfare, used by both sides. Clones versus machines really don't add that humanizing light to the Separatists. Lucas states in the opening crawl of Episode III that "heroes are on both sides." The Confederacy, as a whole, should be no more or less evil than the Republic. Their soldiers should be flesh and blood as well, to remove the feeling that they are all unambiguously evil. It was a popular movement for a reason.
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i.) Tarkin, Pellaeon, Sate Pestage. Those are major EU characters who need movie time. Mas Amedda and Sly Moore? Not so much.
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I agree with the tarkin thing, but i am not sure who the rest are >.<

j.) Skywalker is the main character. Get an actor who can actually... um... act.

Or some descent writing. writing is what made heath ledger's role as the joker so epic. Acting... Not as much. they gave him natural lines.

k.) No half-assed ideas. Such as Palpatine's disfigurement. Even as Episode II commences, we see Palpatine slowly being aged and withered by the dark side. The idea that Windu's electrocution somehow "ruined" his mask is ridiculous, nor is it clear cut for anyone who doesn't bury themselves in EU.

Ya. that was retarded. Emerald judgement didn't make luke look like a zombie, why should basic rots lightning?

l.) George Lucas can supervise and direct the storytelling and narrative. But in no uncertain terms is he to direct or write the script.

or he should get a team of professional writers and actually LISTEN to their advice.

Bring in Count Dooku much earlier, perhaps in the twilight of his Jedi career, or before he was seduced by the Emperor, or in the process of. For an interesting character who is very essential (a Jedi dynasty of sorts between him, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Anakin is very deep, in my opinion), he needs more screentime.
Replace mace with count dooku, make dooku fall to the darkside, which causes the counsil to find the prodigious mace (who is none other than Liam Neeson) to take his place. Dooku then stalemates mace in the second episode, and pretty much walks away unscathed. He is still played by that kid from transformers.

In the third episode, sideous doesn’t tell Anakin that he is a sith. Mace finds this out through his own investigation. When he confronts palpatine, palpatine phones for anakin’s help. Anakin disables mace. Mace manages to survive and gets back to the council to warn the other Jedi. By now (dooku isn't dead yet, there was no attempt to capture the senator) dooku has learned of palpatine's plans to replace him and travels back to coruscaunt and confronts the emperor. Realizing the emperor is too strong, he escapes. He then plans to kill the newly christened Vader, thus proving him worthy to be the emperor’s apprentice.

Anakin goes into the jedi temple. Alone. No clones. He kills all of the Jedi inside, (the camera actually shows us him fighting cin drallig and mace windu simultaneously), and leaves the temple, now with cool dark auras and stuff all around him, using Richard Amitage’s evil stance and attitude. Dooku, hoping that Anakin is weakened from his fight with some of the foremost masters in the academy, chooses now to attack Anakin. Anakin, at this point nearly an avatar of the living force curb stomps dooku. Since this is Anakin as a full fledged Jedi master at the age of 35 instead of a snot nosed teenage brat at the age of 18, he is way more powerful and knowledgeable in the force than he could have been in the movies, coming to about 70% of his full potential. Like I said, earlier he had proven himself worthy of studying all of the jedi knowledge and holocrons, so he is not limited by knowledge. He also knows that he is better than the emperor for a fact.

So at this point, he has killed the entire Jedi order single handedly, count dooku, and Maul. Lights dim as he walks by, the ground almost feels like its shaking when he is angry, and when he looks at someone, they cower in fear. (like the rodian’s description of exar kun) This proves him worthy of being called the chosen one.

Unfortunately, after killing all of the cis, and preparing to kill the emperor, obi wan(keep the grevious scene, only have obi wan bring along kit fisto and other nameless Jedi to fight him) intercepts Anakin on Mustafar. Almost the same dueling scene ensues except Anakin tries to persuade obi-wan to join him as his apprentice after the emperor is dead, and afterwards, obi-wan takes padme (WHO DOESN’T DIE) to a planet to hide. The scene ends the same way. Anakin is burnt to a crisp and the emperor (after chasing off Yoda) comes and rescues him and turns him into darth vader. For three years vader (since being mechanized unable to kill palpatine and during this time he kills some jedi in cg mode to lend awesomeness to the mask of vader) searches for padme and Obi-wan. Finally he finds them (this makes leia old enough to remember her mother a little). Vader kills leia slowly for her adultery, and wards off obi wan, causing obi wan to run like hell to tatooine, taking the (now 3 year old) children with him, hiding them on tatooine and alderaan. It does not end with them watching the death star being constructed, because 20 years of working on the first death star >2 years of working on a much larger death star. At this point it just ends showing padme’s funeral procession and the same “a new hope” scene of obi wan handing off luke.

Everyone wins. We got to see Anakin actually prove himself “the chosen one” and we got to see vader kick ass, we got a logical reason and it fixes many of the inconsistencies between the pt and the ot. I think mine is way better than the original.

Lord Knightfa11, I mean, come on lol

. Mace finds this out through his own investigation. When he confronts palpatine, palpatine phones for anakin’s help

He PHONES him? At least makes him contact anakin with the force lol.

Also, If anakin was that powerfull already, being able to kill EVERYONE in the jedi temple, being stronger then the emperor, then why wouldn't he kill the emperor himself and take his place? Also, how would obi-wan be able to beat him if he was that powerful (the guy single handed killed tons of jedis after all...)? Also, it was clearly stated in ANH that anakin never reached the rank of master, so he souldn't surpass the rank of jedi knight before his fall to the dark side.

Originally posted by Darth Angel
Lord Knightfa11, I mean, come on lol

He PHONES him? At least makes him contact anakin with the force lol.

idk i kinda liked the idea of.... NO NO YOU WILL DIE!! *pulls out his sidekick and texts anakin*

Also, If anakin was that powerfull already, being able to kill EVERYONE in the jedi temple, being stronger then the emperor, then why wouldn't he kill the emperor himself and take his place? Also, how would obi-wan be able to beat him if he was that powerful (the guy single handed killed tons of jedis after all...)? Also, it was clearly stated in ANH that anakin never reached the rank of master, so he souldn't surpass the rank of jedi knight before his fall to the dark side.
Actually i was overpowering him based on the fact that at this point its a older, more experienced "In teh zone1!11one" anakin. Also all of the strongest jedi are away at war. the best jedi he would have to fight would be windu. the rest would probably be cake for even George Lucas's anakin... His power and saber skills before his fall would rival those of mace windu, and he doesnt want to just kill the emperor, as this would be his strongest opponent, and he doesnt want to be fighting the emperor and have the jedi, (cis, dooku (etc)) walk in... He wants to take out all of the jedi, all of the cis, then go and take out sideous. And there is also the question of "I am the one who can save the one you love. in my version, palpatine elaborates that he studied under griegor the wise, and thus anakin has the impression that he already knows something about force heal, so he doesn't want to kill him until he gleans such vital information. He also wants to get padme, explain to her wtf is going on (etc.) there are alot of reasons that he doesn't want to kill the emperor yet.

And yet again,

Also, it was clearly stated in ANH that anakin never reached the rank of master, so he souldn't surpass the rank of jedi knight before his fall to the dark side.
it does? where? I was not aware of such >.>

Oh, and the thing of obi wan beating him, most people here hold the opinion that obi wan's superior form III fighting style kept anakin's power at bay until he made the fatal mistake. Even a superlatatively empowered anakin isn't going to get through his defenses, and my anakin is still overconfident enough to try and jump over obi wan.