ROTS Yoda vs. Starkiller

Originally posted by Enyalus
As of ROTS?

[b]EPIC FAIL [/B]

hahaha. wow, Janus, GV, since when have you guys returned to KMC?

I feel that Starkiller would take all three areas. Is it just me or does Master Yoda seem to struggle with force gripping heavy objects whereas Starkiller seems to have an easy time downing a Star Destroyer. In Ep. 2, Master Yoda struggles to get an X-Wing out of a swamp in Dagobah...

I just feel that Master Yoda, despite how powerful he is portrayed is not as powerful as how they portray Starkiller. I'm only speaking in terms how of Lucas Arts has illustrated the two characters. Anyone else at least give some credit to this theory?

-Master Padilla

"Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to.....suffering."

-Yoda

"Easy time downing a Star Destroyer". Riiiiight.

I think a fight between Starkiller and Yoda would be epic and likely a very close one.

Ridiculously epic: I think force would be almost a toss-up. Sabers, Yoda wins.

So yoda wins all out with his saber...

(I hope i didn't post this opinion already.... i've a lot going on recently...)

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
"Easy time downing a Star Destroyer". Riiiiight.

Well regardless, Starkiller did it by himself. I find that to be pretty remarkable. And if we all agree that Anakin Skywalker, aka Darth Vader, is to bring balance to the force and also so happens to be the mentor to Starkiller.....yeah I'd say Starkiller has the upper hand against Yoda......sadly.

-Master Padilla

Originally posted by master_padilla
And if we all agree that Anakin Skywalker, aka Darth Vader, is to bring balance to the force and also so happens to be the mentor to Starkiller.....yeah I'd say Starkiller has the upper hand against Yoda

Originally posted by master_padilla
Well regardless, Starkiller did it by himself. I find that to be pretty remarkable. And if we all agree that Anakin Skywalker, aka Darth Vader, is to bring balance to the force and also so happens to be the mentor to Starkiller.....yeah I'd say Starkiller has the upper hand against Yoda......sadly.

-Master Padilla

You might want to recheck your TFU novelization... Gravity brought down a powerless star destroyer. Galen redirected it a little bit, so it didn't land on him.

However, he is a BEAST in the force. (based on TFU II trailer...)

Though... this is kinda breaking my own rule of Darth Maul and Darth Maul's clone.... Clones != to originals.... So we really should be discussing Galen or Gaalen. But not both as one....

I think Gaalen is more impressive.

Yoda would definitely pull a win with his lightsaber, given that he's a master of all seven forms. Though if I'm not mistaken, Starkiller is a Juyo practitioner, which might suggest that the gap between the two is closer than one would think.

In a Force contest, it could definitely go either way.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
That makes absolutely no sense.

Basically if Vader has more meta clorians (sp?) than Yoda himself, and if Vader was to mentor Starkiller, then Starkiller has one HELLUVA mentor and definitely has the potential to beat Yoda. Only because Vader is, according to Lucas, arguably more powerful than Yoda. So imagine learning from Vader who is more powerful than Yoda. That's my point.

Originally posted by master_padilla
Basically if Vader has more meta clorians (sp?) than Yoda himself, and if Vader was to mentor Starkiller, then Starkiller has one HELLUVA mentor and definitely has the potential to beat Yoda. Only because Vader is, according to Lucas, arguably more powerful than Yoda. So imagine learning from Vader who is more powerful than Yoda. That's my point.

No, according to Lucas, Vader had the POTENTIAL to be more powerful than Yoda. He never achieved it.

Second, just because Vader MENTORED Starkiller means NOTHING in deciding how powerful starkiller was in relation to Yoda. In fact, address that again, that makes ZERO sense. Yoda mentored lots of people, but that didn't make all of them as powerful as he.

That said, I think Starkiller, through feat wars, has displayed every bit as much force power as Yoda.

Originally posted by master_padilla
Basically if Vader has more meta clorians (sp?) than Yoda himself, and if Vader was to mentor Starkiller, then Starkiller has one HELLUVA mentor and definitely has the potential to beat Yoda. Only because Vader is, according to Lucas, arguably more powerful than Yoda. So imagine learning from Vader who is more powerful than Yoda. That's my point.

Originally posted by truejedi
He never achieved it.

Ehhh, I'm not so sure.

Originally posted by truejedi
No, according to Lucas, Vader had the POTENTIAL to be more powerful than Yoda. He never achieved it.

Second, just because Vader MENTORED Starkiller means NOTHING in deciding how powerful starkiller was in relation to Yoda. In fact, address that again, that makes ZERO sense. Yoda mentored lots of people, but that didn't make all of them as powerful as he.

That said, I think Starkiller, through feat wars, has displayed every bit as much force power as Yoda.

I'll buy that...That's fair. 😄

Originally posted by Lacan Grahf
Ehhh, I'm not so sure.

HIS full potential, which is Lucas's quote. He was maybe as powerful as Yoda. I don't think so. 80 percent of Sidious as of ROTJ... I don't think is more powerful than Yoda as of ROTS... perhaps not. We have no comparison. Yoda's feats are more impressive...

I will say that I really hope that they are close to completing TFU III since the 2nd one was way too short. I would like to see a game that illustrates Starkiller undergo the Jedi trials with the help of Yoda or someone to finalize Starkiller's cross over from the dark side into the light side of the force to make his Jedi Knighthood official.

nah, cause then where did he go in ROTJ?

Originally posted by truejedi
HIS full potential, which is Lucas's quote. He was maybe as powerful as Yoda. I don't think so. 80 percent of Sidious as of ROTJ... I don't think is more powerful than Yoda as of ROTS... perhaps not. We have no comparison.

I've seen that quote by George and I'm not sure how to interpret it. The fact is that Vader has never exhibited anything approaching the same level of knowledge or skill in his use of the Force. It could very well have been raw, untapped power and not overall aptitude. Or not. I don't know.

But the Emperor had twenty years or so to study the Force, so I'd say he's definitely more powerful than Yoda by ROTJ.

Yoda's feats are more impressive...

Originally posted by truejedi
That said, I think Starkiller, through feat wars, has displayed every bit as much force power as Yoda.

Ehhh?

Originally posted by master_padilla
I will say that I really hope that they are close to completing TFU III since the 2nd one was way too short. I would like to see a game that illustrates Starkiller undergo the Jedi trials with the help of Yoda or someone to finalize Starkiller's cross over from the dark side into the light side of the force to make his Jedi Knighthood official.