Thor, Silver Surfer, Gladiator, and Sentry vs Superman Prime

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
But there's a difference between matter colliding with anti matter and something simply ceasing to exist. How does anti matter not destroying him prove that the Power Cosmic couldn't erase him? Heck, he could even just transmute SPB's suit to transmit red solar energy, or just erase it and then remove what he ad in him.

You are right, he CAN do those things, but SMP is faster than Silver Surfer and will be dominated before he can. Bart Allen had to absorb the entire Speed Force to keep up with SMP.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
But there's a difference between matter colliding with anti matter and something simply ceasing to exist. How does anti matter not destroying him prove that the Power Cosmic couldn't erase him? Heck, he could even just transmute SPB's suit to transmit red solar energy, or just erase it and then remove what he ad in him.

Firestorm and the elite GL's could do this as well, but it's unlikly agaisnt SMP because his stats are skyfather level...top tiers can only do so much.

To keep up with him?
Bart was clearly SuperBoy's superior in terms of Speed when they fought during the whole "road kill" pannels.

Originally posted by Priest
To keep up with him?
Bart was clearly SuperBoy's superior in terms of Speed when they fought during the whole "road kill" pannels.

Even if that were true...why does it matter.

You raise good points with the anti matter business. However, I've read that the SUrfer can use the PC to enhance his attributes to infinite levels, and that includes his speed. Nothing can be faster than infinite, so if anything they'd be tied for speed, right?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Firestorm and the elite GL's could do this as well, but it's unlikly agaisnt SMP because his stats are skyfather level...top tiers can only do so much.

Imo, Prime Survived crashing into the AM because he was so fast that the AntiMatter didn't touch him.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You raise good points with the anti matter business. However, I've read that the SUrfer can use the PC to enhance his attributes to infinite levels, and that includes his speed. Nothing can be faster than infinite, so if anything they'd be tied for speed, right?

Infinite in comics is a relative term. Surfer infinite<Odin infinite<Galactus infinite<Living tribunal infinite etc.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Even if that were true...why does it matter.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You raise good points with the anti matter business. However, I've read that the SUrfer can use the PC to enhance his attributes to infinite levels, and that includes his speed. Nothing can be faster than infinite, so if anything they'd be tied for speed, right?

A lot of characters have unlimited upper strength that is never tapped into...in this case its speculation vs reality. SS could in theory amp his stats to infinite levels...but if that were true he would have matched WM thor when he had the PG or even have stomped all over Thanos. As it stands he is only a top tier untill something happens to suggest otherwise.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You raise good points with the anti matter business. However, I've read that the SUrfer can use the PC to enhance his attributes to infinite levels, and that includes his speed. Nothing can be faster than infinite, so if anything they'd be tied for speed, right?

Cause Thanos has a supreme CIS aura, and because SS sucks at fighting. 😆

Originally posted by The Great Galen
A lot of characters have unlimited upper strength that is never tapped into...in this case its speculation vs reality. SS could in theory amp his stats to infinite levels...but if that were true he would have matched WM thor when he had the PG or even have stomped all over Thanos. As it stands he is only a top tier untill something happens to suggest otherwise.

ie. cosmic cube infinite power < Celestial infinite power.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You raise good points with the anti matter business. However, I've read that the SUrfer can use the PC to enhance his attributes to infinite levels, and that includes his speed. Nothing can be faster than infinite, so if anything they'd be tied for speed, right?

Thanos would beat SMP in 3!

Originally posted by Mindset
SMP would beat Thanos in 1!

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No he isn't. Thor has never destroyed or moved a planet, or warped reality on the levels SMP has physically.

2. K. And it won't matter much when Surfer is being manhandled by the stronger and faster SMP.

3. No he isn't. SMP traveled to Oa in the time it took to say a sentence or two, he was shown speeding by planets in no time at all.

The GL Corps. in IC. He blitzed and killed several of them and then before Guy could fire his ring SMP already had him by the throat. He blitzed and was taking people several times in SCW. And...He counter-blitzed three Flashes in IC.

Which will do nothing since SMP has the Solar Suit judging by the OP, which constantly feeds him Solar Energy.

SMP dominates Surfer before he can destroy the suit if you were about to say that.

2.Prime seemed to take awhile to beat Ion. Surfer is more durable and more impressive than Ion. He also has help and Ion fought him alone. 😉

3.Fastest Prime went is the speed of light. Glads is a lot faster than the speed of light.

He doesnt blitz that often at all and only reacted imo. Glads is faster than him also.

If he has or doesnt have the suit he gets wrecked. Either way.

Originally posted by iceman24567
When Gladz can fly to other universes in a couple panels tell me so i can agree with you until then 😬

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Prime takes it.Gladiator and Sentry are the weak links here, and Thor and SS are no match for SMP even together. Althought Thor would probably be the only real fight here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. 😐 😐 Thor has injured a Celestial with his hammer and chased off Galactus with his godblast. Prime only destroyed a planet with his Guardian amp by the way. 😉

2.Prime seemed to take awhile to beat Ion. Surfer is more durable and more impressive than Ion. He also has help and Ion fought him alone. 😉

3.Fastest Prime went is the speed of light. Glads is a lot faster than the speed of light.

He doesnt blitz that often at all and only reacted imo. Glads is faster than him also.

If he has or doesnt have the suit he gets wrecked. Either way.

2. SMP wrecked Ion, he taunted him the whole fight and treated Ion like a joke. SMP has manhandled characters physically on a different level than Surfer.

3. You're full of shit you know that? He reached Oa, which is galaxy upon galaxy away from Earth, in a few seconds. Light couldn't have done that in 100 years.

So when I bring up times he has blitzed, you just deny it? You're a dumbass. Gladiator is not faster than him at all, not in reflex or travel speed.

Nah.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Glads can go faster than the speed light. 😂

And nice dodge btw. 🙂