Team 'Orc' Vs. Sephiroth

Sephiroth does not seem like the guy who roll up his sleeves and impale someone as a symbol of strength. Terryc250 is right, that a limit to Sephiroth's strength can not be determined. And although we have never gotten any solid fact of how physically strong he actually is, we can not conclude that he might not have the physical capability to lift the serpent.

However, we can also not conclude that he has it. Because as Terryc250 said, it was never specified how the serpent became impaled. Assuming it was impaled trough physical strength is just as wrong as assuming it was not. We do not know how the battle between Sephiroth and the serpent in question took place.

It could have been an accident. It could have been pure skills from Sephiroth. It could have been injured while at high altitude and fallen over the tree. It could have been blasted there by Sephiroth. It could have been dragged on top of it by Sephiroth after defeat. It could have been thrown there during combat by Sephiroth.

Heck, considering the tiny amount of facts there is revolving that thread, it might not even have been Sephiroth, or the serpent was maybe tired of living?

There is no definate answer, hell, the writers probably don't even know, they just put it there as to show the player Sephiroth's power and brutality.

Because as your chasing after Sephiroth towards the cave, the only way to cross the marsh (which a zolom midgar is swimming around in) is to find a chocobo to outrun the midgar zolom, because if it catches you, you'll have to battle it, and if you battle it, your party will lose because the Serpent is insanely strong and 1 hit kills your team.

So the writers make it that you must avoid that battle, you must catch a chocobo to outrun it, so after going through and catching a chocobo and outrunning the zolom, you'll see that scene at the entrance of the cave which is clearly just to show the players how powerful and ruthless Sephiroth is, that is the only point of that scene, it has no other relevence to the story at all.

Originally posted by Terryc250
How can you state he doesn't have the strength when we've never even seen close to the limits of his strength?

feats, we dont have a feat close to him using a strength level to carry that serpent or anything of the sort, thus we cannot assume he has the strength...

the logic your usng is like me saying "Kain could have picked up the continent sized EG and tossed it across teh galaxy!" we just dont know the limits to Kains strength so we cant assume he couldnt.

Originally posted by Burning thought
puny critter

and its puny, since its weight for whatever reason cannot snap a tall tree? lawlz.....not to mention its pierced by a tree as well, it must have paper scales or something.

Failure.

With proper force, even weak blunt objects can pierce strong materials, a great example being when John Hancock from the movie Hancock threw a CANDYBAR at a thug, it sent him through the wall.

It is 60 feet long, and it was impaled straight through the tree which stuck straight up, and most of its body is on the ground, so not all of its weight is on the tree.

great so the movie hancock has all the proof we need for real physicics and realism.....

All of its weight would have been on the tree if someone had just smashed it on there, regardless of its tail, its main head which is by far the heaviest part (and logically best armoured) doesnt even break the wood, and nonsense on weaker materials breaking stronger since surely that snake if it has strong/resistant skin would break wood.....

Originally posted by Burning thought
great so the movie hancock has all the proof we need for real physicics and realism.....

All of its weight would have been on the tree if someone had just smashed it on there, regardless of its tail, its main head which is by far the heaviest part (and logically best armoured) doesnt even break the wood, and nonsense on weaker materials breaking stronger since surely that snake if it has strong/resistant skin would break wood.....

...You know, truthfully, rethinking what happened, there is no logical way the snake could have been impaled unless it was weak in durability.

too right, by the power of greyskull as well may I add.....

... a toothpick can pierce through skin if it is stabbed properly

Originally posted by Burning thought
feats, we dont have a feat close to him using a strength level to carry that serpent or anything of the sort, thus we cannot assume he has the strength...

the logic your usng is like me saying "Kain could have picked up the continent sized EG and tossed it across teh galaxy!" we just dont know the limits to Kains strength so we cant assume he couldnt.

Sephiroth does have strength feats, and all of his strength feats he does EFFORTLESSLY, like cutting through concrete/steel easier then a hot knife through butter, he even lifts up Cloud+his sword at the TIP of his masamune played by his wrist alone, going by real physics the fact that its at the tip of his 6 foot blade the weight multiplies a lot, and he lifts it with just his wrist (with zero effort)
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Kain slicing into the rock is a strength feat just as much Sephiroth cutting concrete. None of this shows any feat that compares sephiroth with lifting up that snake unless its thin paper skin and weak body makes it a lightweight thing.

Cutting rock/steel is not much of a strength feat anyway shrug

well its actualy more dependan on the weapon in hand.

Weapon and technique of slashing 🙂

You can have the worlds greatest technique, but if you don't have strength you won't be cutting even a tree, thats why theres no human on earth that can one-cut a thick tree because no human has that amount of strength.

But anyway the creators even state Sephiroth stronger then Chaos and Omega.

Originally posted by Terryc250
You can have the worlds greatest technique, but if you don't have strength you won't be cutting even a tree, thats why theres no human on earth that can one-cut a thick tree because no human has that amount of strength.

But anyway the creators even state Sephiroth stronger then Chaos and Omega.

There are people that crack a vast number of bricks with one punch. It is all about technique. As is it when you wield a sword. It has little to do with your physical strength.

Originally posted by Terryc250
You can have the worlds greatest technique, but if you don't have strength you won't be cutting even a tree, thats why theres no human on earth that can one-cut a thick tree because no human has that amount of strength.

But anyway the creators even state Sephiroth stronger then Chaos and Omega.

2. ...Are you actually suggesting that Sephiroth is physically stronger than Omega, who is taller than a city and about a mile wide? 😐

that maybe true, but we cannot be certain whether the creator was taking about physicality or raw magical power 😬

He was speaking overall.

If he was physically stronger than Omega, Cloud wouldn't be capable of pushing him back at all.

The fact that Omega can even support its own body weight proves he is stronger.

More powerful overall? Sure.

Physically stronger than a mile wide, 5 mile tall giant? Nah.

buT teh hULk c0uld d0 !t & SePh >>> HulK!!!!!@11211 😛

seriously, i dont know why im here..everytime i try to debate things go horribly wrong