Originally posted by Naija boy
The way u described the being taken out until its just firelord and surfer left is underating them. All the heralds match up well against the JLA with some of them even having advantages over them.
i don't see it as underrating them. yes, they could take wins. thats something i've never denied. i just think the jla has options, that's all.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Flashes can't fly and haven't operated in space without a GL's help in my memory.I still haven't seen a single scan that shows the other Justice Leaguers accomplishing such a feat.No. But if people are going to claim that most of the JLA have taken down armadas of starcraft, I'd like to see scans substantiating such claims.
well obviously the flash can't fly, but seriously. someone who can move as fast as him and hit as hard as him isn't going to be able to take on heralds?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
"So now you have to have armada demolishing feats to be able to beat Heralds?"Not a requirement but absolutely shows an obvious gap in raw power and abiltiy. It adds to the fact that each herald sit at a tier just above most of that DC group.
based on what?
Originally posted by iceman24567
So now you have to have armada demolishing feats to be able to beat Heralds? 😐
No but it gives a strong argument that there is a obvious gap between the abilities and raw power of the heralds vs. team dc.
It only adds to the credence that the heralds as a group sit at a tier just above team DC as a whole.
oops srry for a bit of a repost
Originally posted by iceman24567Even the lowest of the Heralds in this thread have planet-busting feats. None of the Justice Leaguers do. We've seen in comics, at most, two Heralds fighting as a team in tandem. Five of them in tandem? That's a bit much...
Yes a gap in raw power i don't see this being uneven at all though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i don't see it as underrating them. yes, they could take wins. thats something i've never denied. i just think the jla has options, that's all.well obviously the flash can't fly, but seriously. someone who can move as fast as him and hit as hard as him isn't going to be able to take on heralds?
based on what?
based on the fact that the most of team dc just isnt as durable, powerful, and versatile as each of the heralds.
Originally posted by -Pr-No. But it takes him and +1 to take down at least one Herald all things considered equal. Also... I still haven't seen a single scan substantiating the claim that these Justice Leaguers can take down armadas on their own.
well obviously the flash can't fly, but seriously. someone who can move as fast as him and hit as hard as him isn't going to be able to take on heralds?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Yes we know about the obvious gap in power output but since when does it stop the Leaguers from putting down people? Superman does it on a regular. Wonder Woman does it alot too Nekron, Circe, Ares even Genocide had more raw power i don't think the power output difference makes this spite.
Even the lowest of the Heralds in this thread have planet-busting feats. None of the Justice Leaguers do. We've seen in comics, at most, two Heralds fighting as a team in tandem. Five of them in tandem? That's a bit much...
Originally posted by celeyhyga17whoa whoa, pumps the brakes a bit kiddo....
i gotta say....only reason why this is not spite is because of Supes and GL.. they tip the scales enough to make it not a complete and utter stomp.
don't go overboard here, the justice league big guns would put up a very decent fight, any loss would be a respectful loss.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
whoa whoa, pumps the brakes a bit kiddo....don't go overboard here, the justice league big guns would put up a very decent fight, any loss would be a respectful loss.
why u gotta be so damned reasonable? its my oppurtunity to pump my chest a bit after all the beating i got in the previous pages of this thread!?!?!!?!? lol... ok kidding aside its not an utter stomp. but it's still kinda a stomp aint it????? even just a little??!?!????
The biggest problem for the League is that Flash (their hardest hitter) can't fly without help. While all of the heralds would potentially be up as high as they can when they do. This automatically gives the heralds the numbers advantage as the GL would have to create energy constructs to allow the Flash to even engage the Heralds (meaning that the Flash can only react at the accuracy/speed of the GL at hand). That or someone from the other team carries him (meaning that if that team member gets taken down, Flash gets taken down as well). This also means that Flash won't be able to blitz any of the FLYING heralds from the get-go.
Heralds have weakness scanning and exploit and Supes has quite a few weaknesses that can be exploited. So does MM.
In the end, it's the blaring weaknesses of the JLA that gives the Heralds the win 10/10.
Originally posted by iceman24567Not spite. Indeed, the number of Heralds and their concomitant egos actually works against them, especially when you consider the synergy of the Justice Leaguers' teamwork. However... the proven ability of the Justice League to overcome sheer odds should be buttressed by each of the Herald's individual ability to overcome sheer odds as well. While the Justice League may have the advantage on such esoteric terms, it doesn't really control the debate in this instance.
Yes we know about the obvious gap in power output but since when does it stop the Leaguers from putting down people? Superman does it on a regular. Wonder Woman does it alot too Nekron, Circe, Ares even Genocide had more raw power i don't think the power output difference makes this spite.