Kazekage Gaara vs. Kuchiki Byakuya?

Started by Wil75 pages

A sword isn't the same thing as chidori.

oh right, the same shield which was harder than diomand at one point. and chidori is EXTREMELY powerful. there is infact little to nuthing that has survive being cut by it.

Was it ever stated to be harder then diamond? I don't recall.

Sasuke's chidori has went through it like nothing, and Sasuke i don't think ever killed anyone with his chidori, or he rarely even hits anyone with it, he hit Genin Gaara and wounded him. But its about as powerful as Naruto's rasengan, or maybe even less powerful.. Kabuto took a rasengan and survived

I think Byakuya's bankai > Sasuke's Chidori

Originally posted by Wil7
Gaara would surround himself in sand before Byakuya can get a cut on him. Gaara can still attack when surrounded in sand.
I did not realise Gaara was that quick(he isn't).

And...Chidori pierced it, Byakuya will do so handily.

zaraki cut a building in half..surely byakuya strike is as powerfull..think gaara sand armor can withstand such a powerfull strike??

leonheartmm, I dare his sword to leave a whole the size of chidori, and bigger on a wall. I want it even bigger than rasengan's whole. Cutting through isn't the same thing.

yes it was stated that gaara can collect the hardest minerals in the ground{diaomand} and compress it further with his own chakra. and lets not forget the severity of the explosion when the power of the chidori and shaaringan actuallly burst in the fight of naruto against sasuke. byakuya is nuthing to that, senbonzakura doesnt have that kind of piercing power, MAYBE zengetsu would, but thats still a BIG BIG if, and even then i doubt it.

lmao.

Captains can split hollows the size of skyscrapers with a swing, Kakashi wasn't even able to get through Haku, a person, with his chidori.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
zaraki cut a building in half..surely byakuya strike is as powerfull..think gaara sand armor can withstand such a powerfull strike??
Well Kenpachi is physically stronger and has a much greater spiritual power than Byakuya so I doubt that...

Seriously, Bada's Palin brings a great point.

Ichigo in the series, who had not had any Shinigami training, had a (weak) sealed Zanpakuto, was able to severely wound a Menos Gillian, which is as big as a Skyscraper, with one swing. The slash traveled up almost to its face.

How in the FVCK will Byakuya, who is MUCH MUCH MUCH stronger than the Ichigo that did that, not be able to cut through the sand with his Bankai?

he stopped the second he hit haku out of shock. also, size isnt anything, just look at soifon or yuroichi. heck, voslo lords are the size of humans and they can make mincemeat of captains.

I guess that means that they are like super strong just small?

I like how you did not even try to actually address the point.

Menos Gillian are the third strongest class of Hollow.

They are as big as skyscrapers.

A novice nearly killed one in a single blow.

Nice, trying to downplay the feat. Fanboy.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well Kenpachi is physically stronger and has a much greater spiritual power than Byakuya so I doubt that...

Seriously, Bada's Palin brings a great point.

Ichigo in the series, who had not had any Shinigami training, had a (weak) sealed Zanpakuto, was able to severely wound a Menos Gillian, which is as big as a Skyscraper, with one swing. The slash traveled up almost to its face.

How in the FVCK will Byakuya, who is MUCH MUCH MUCH stronger than the Ichigo that did that, not be able to cut through the sand with his Bankai?

rent u the one who warn people to not use A>B>C LOGIC. SPECIALLY in sumthing like bleach where power levels are being redefined, arc to arc?

A>B>C logic?

Ichigo nearly cut a Gillian in half with a weak sword, and no training.

Byakuya, who has Bankai, training to the Captain level, and a greater spiritual power than Ichigo had at that point(spiritual power=cutting power) can't though?

Sure. 🙄

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I guess that means that they are like super strong just small?

I like how you did not even try to actually address the point.

Menos Gillian are the third strongest class of Hollow.

They are as big as skyscrapers.

A novice nearly killed one in a single blow.

Nice, trying to downplay the feat. Fanboy.

a novice who had unleashed a great part of his spirit power, even when he fought renji renji noted that the spirit power was the same, it was just more controlled. also, contrast this with his fight against ikakku where he was havign trouble with a SPEAR. basically as i said before, bleach redefines{usueally weakens} power levels in general in every new arc, so as to counteract the progress in training/skill that the characters make, same with dbz.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
a novice who had unleashed a great part of his spirit power, even when he fought renji renji noted that the spirit power was the same, it was just more controlled. also, contrast this with his fight against ikakku where he was havign trouble with a SPEAR. basically as i said before, bleach redefines{usueally weakens} power levels in general in every new arc, so as to counteract the progress in training/skill that the characters make, same with dbz.
Renji's spirit power is not as strong as Byakuya's, hell, Byakuya cut the Ichigo who pwned the Gillian's Zanpakuto in half, and cut Ichigo up, all in the same slash. Spear? Ikkaku is a liutenant level Shinigami, hell, he is stronger than most, he has a Bankai, and his "spear" was his Zanpakuto. Which is infused with his spiritual power. And Lieutenants>Menos Gillians. So your point...Well it sucks.

leutenants are not stronger than menos in general, bankai ikakku is a special case. and again i was trying to demonstrate how SIZE doesnt matter. and ur using A>B>C logic again. why do people assume that ichigo was WEAK then? he just hadnt learnt to CONTROL his spirit power. otherwise u n i well know that a cero has the potential to **** up most average level captains. and THAT ichigo repelled a cero. it alludes to his spirit power. hes just learnt to control it better.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
leutenants are not stronger than menos in general, bankai ikakku is a special case. and again i was trying to demonstrate how SIZE doesnt matter. and ur using A>B>C logic again. why do people assume that ichigo was WEAK then? he just hadnt learnt to CONTROL his spirit power. otherwise u n i well know that a cero has the potential to **** up most average level captains. and THAT ichigo repelled a cero. it alludes to his spirit power. hes just learnt to control it better.
Not all Menos, no, but they are stronger than Gillian. Size is not all that matters, spiritual power matters more, true, but Gillian also have far greater spiritual power than most Hollows. But they ARE as big as Skyscrapers, and coupled with their spiritual power, that is an awesome feat. He was weak then, he had no training, could not use Shyunpo, his spiritual power was not on par with Byakuya's, and his physical strength was not at its peak.

A cero from a Gillian would NEVER fvck a Captain up.

^thats where ur wrong. cero is cero, no matter what. and i said a NORMAL captain.

So a cero from random Gillian #3 would be as powerful as one from a powerful Espada, like Barragan for instance(who is probably the #1 Espada)?

Lol, no.

lol, yes. but barragan wud probablu use a bala blast whih is more [pwerful than cero. also, there are pecial techniques like the triple cero which kicked grimjaw's ass