Wonder Woman vs She-Hulk, Storm and Lady Deathstrike

Started by resolution15 pages

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Read what I wrote. Once again you failed to read my post correctly.

No, a lightning bolt from Storm is not hitting Diana. I really don't know how many times someone can tell you that her reaction speeds are far, far too fast. And you still have not explained to me how Storm is fast enough to get the attack off. And I'm waiting to hear how She Hulk and LDS are fast enough to land a hit, or how they are able to even see Diana.

Take into consideration this scan - the speed of Supes HV AND the speed that he was moving trumps anything Storm would throw at her. He was not in her field of vision, it was more than one attack AND she was preoccupied and not even in battle mode.

Also, those scans of Storm did not show her using this tracking ability to hit someone WHO MOVES AS FAST AS DIANA with lightning when she could not see her. And you STILL have not given me any indication that Storm has the reaction speed to pull this off. I want to see a scan of Storm and the other 2 for that matter fighting someone moving as fast as Diana. Until you can do that, all of you scenarios CONTINUE to fail.

I don't know how many more people have to tell you that the team loses badly 🤣

I think it is you that are not reading my posts, i just gave you a scenario and you didn't address a single aspect of it, you just keep basically saying "diana is really fast" lol.

Storm sensing and hitting someone as fast as Diana? umm, the speed is going to be taken care of by the lightning itself.

Diana will not even be in motion at that time since your scenario had her standing there pounding on Storm's forcefeild (Remember She Hulk and LDS are also coming for her at the same time).

Oh and if you want to establish facts on a vote, then lets just throw away our powers of reasoning. Besides that I still see debate going on.

Originally posted by resolution
I think it is you that are not reading my posts, i just gave you a scenario and you didn't address a single aspect of it, you just keep basically saying "diana is really fast" lol.

Storm sensing and hitting someone as fast as Diana? umm, the speed is going to be taken care of by the lightning itself.

Diana will not even be in motion at that time since your scenario had her standing there pounding on Storm's forcefeild (Remember She Hulk and LDS are also coming for her now).

Oh and if you want to establish facts on a vote, then lets just throw away our powers of reasoning. Besides that I still see debate going on.


How Does Storm get the force field or the lightning Bolt off before she's dead? Seeing as How Wonder Woman can move and react faster than thought?

Originally posted by fangirl101
How Does Storm get the force field or the lightning Bolt off before she's dead? Seeing as How Wonder Woman can move and react faster than thought?

faster than thought?

Originally posted by resolution
faster than thought?

Yes. before Storm can think to raise a shield, she's already blitzed and dead.

Originally posted by resolution
I think it is you that are not reading my posts, i just gave you a scenario and you didn't address a single aspect of it, you just keep basically saying "diana is really fast" lol.

Storm sensing and hitting someone as fast as Diana? umm, the speed is going to be taken care of by the lightning itself, and if she is locked onto a nervous system, reaction time for anything Diana does subsequently is no longer an issue.

Diana will not even be in motion at that time since your scenario had her standing there pounding on Storm's forcefeild.

Oh and if you want to establish facts on a vote, then lets just throw away our powers of reasoning.

You're scenario isn't plausible. What part of you isn't getting this. Everyone in here (minus lolStormultt) has told you that Diana moves too fast for Storm to lay any of this on here. Of course I'm going to keep mentioning it because you have YET to show me how Storm is able to hit Diana. YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED A SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE.

You are also trying to are also trying to argue two different scenarios at the same time. Either she goes for a bolt of lightning at the start or she puts up a shield. DIANA IS TOO FAST FOR BOTH OF THESE SCENARIOS. Everything you say afterwards is useless. "The speed is going to be taken care of by the lightning itself." Please tell me that you realize that makes no sense.

We've already provided you numerous scans of Wonder Woman dealing with opponents far faster than Storm AND reflecting MULTIPLE attacks that travel just as fast as a bolt of lightning. SHE'S NOT GETTING HIT. Scenario 1 isn't working. You are trying to argue this 'locking into the nervous system' strategy, when you yourself admit you don't understand it. EVEN IF we buy that Storm can do this to Diana, Diana will be moving faster than Storm can THINK!! When you show me a scan of Storm locking into someone's nervous system, tracking them and hitting them with a bolt of lightning while they are moving faster than she can see, then I will concede. Until then, you fail.

As for Storm putting up her shield, again I want to see evidence of what it can withstand. A punch from someone of Diana's strength may be all that it takes. IF you can provide me with that, then I want you to explain to me why Diana, who is tactically superior to everyone on that field, is just going to stand their bashing a shield IF her first attempt fails. I also need you to tell me how the bolt of lightning STILL isn't deflected if Storm tries to summon it because as we addressed in scenario 1 DIANA'S REFLEXES ARE TOO FAST. I've already shown you a scan of Diana dealing with Superman's HV, when she wasn't even remotely prepared, so please don't feed be that "she'll be distracted" argument. I never said that Diana just stands there and bashes at Storm's shield.

After you've managed to do all that, then repeat and rinse for She Hulk and LDS. lol

You've got a lot of explaining to do, dont you? 💃 😆

And is Diana bloodlusted? If she is, this thing ends even more quickly.

Originally posted by resolution
faster than thought?

Faster than any 3 of those ladies can think? Yes.

I'm still waiting for you to adequately address Diana taking on the JLA while blindfolded. Do you honestly think a single bolt of lightning is more of a threat than the Flash? That Black Canary and Batman pose less of a challenge than LDS and that She-Hulk >>> Martian Manhunter?

Wow.

How far this forum has fallen....

🙁

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
You're scenario isn't plausible. What part of you isn't getting this. Everyone in here (minus lolStormultt) has told you that Diana moves too fast for Storm to lay any of this on here. Of course I'm going to keep mentioning it because you have YET to show me how Storm is able to hit Diana. YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED A SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE.

You are also trying to are also trying to argue two different scenarios at the same time. Either she goes for a bolt of lightning at the start or she puts up a shield. DIANA IS TOO FAST FOR BOTH OF THESE SCENARIOS. Everything you say afterwards is useless. "The speed is going to be taken care of by the lightning itself." Please tell me that you realize that makes no sense.

We've already provided you numerous scans of Wonder Woman dealing with opponents far faster than Storm AND reflecting MULTIPLE attacks that travel just as fast as a bolt of lightning. SHE'S NOT GETTING HIT. Scenario 1 isn't working. You are trying to argue this 'locking into the nervous system' strategy, when you yourself admit you don't understand it. EVEN IF we buy that Storm can do this to Diana, Diana will be moving faster than Storm can THINK!! When you show me a scan of Storm locking into someone's nervous system, tracking them and hitting them with a bolt of lightning while they are moving faster than she can see, then I will concede. Until then, you fail.

As for Storm putting up her shield, again I want to see evidence of what it can withstand. A punch from someone of Diana's strength may be all that it takes. IF you can provide me with that, then I want you to explain to me why Diana, who is tactically superior to everyone on that field, is just going to stand their bashing a shield IF her first attempt fails. I also need you to tell me how the bolt of lightning STILL isn't deflected if Storm tries to summon it because as we addressed in scenario 1 DIANA'S REFLEXES ARE TOO FAST. I've already shown you a scan of Diana dealing with Superman's HV, when she wasn't even remotely prepared, so please don't feed be that "she'll be distracted" argument. I never said that Diana just stands there and bashes at Storm's shield.

After you've managed to do all that, then repeat and rinse for She Hulk and LDS. lol

You've got a lot of explaining to do, dont you? 💃 😆

And is Diana bloodlusted? If she is, this thing ends even more quickly.

Well, at least there's one voice of sanity.

Originally posted by Draco69
Well, at least there's one voice of sanity.

More. Read the thread. There really is just a few Insane voices in the thread.

Originally posted by Draco69
Well, at least there's one voice of sanity.

I a made humble 🙂 I'm quite a fan! 💃

Fangirl and others have done an excellent job as will. Although, at times it feels as if we're trying to reason with the Borg. hehe

but but but...did'nt storm already beat wonderwoman with teh lightning? cough * dc vs marvel * cough 💃

plus teh galactic storm thingy??!... 😛

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
but but but...did'nt storm already beat wonderwoman with teh lightning? cough * dc vs marvel * cough 💃

plus teh galactic storm thingy??!... 😛

That was a fan determined outcome. It has no bearing on this fight whatsoever. They would have found a way for Wolverine to beat GL 😛

The OP did not specify "galactic storm" and she still wouldn't be at the level of some of the foes WW has taken on.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
That was a fan determined outcome. It has no bearing on this fight whatsoever. They would have found a way for Wolverine to beat GL 😛

The OP did not specify "galactic storm" and she still wouldn't be at the level of some of the foes WW has taken on.

well...they did find a way for wolverine to beat lobo LOL!!!

just saying that there are some who would mention that storm is so powerful that she can control teh galactic storm. LOL 😆

but for the record. my moneys one wonder woman

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
You're scenario isn't plausible. What part of you isn't getting this. Everyone in here (minus lolStormultt) has told you that Diana moves too fast for Storm to lay any of this on here. Of course I'm going to keep mentioning it because you have YET to show me how Storm is able to hit Diana. YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED A SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE.

You are also trying to are also trying to argue two different scenarios at the same time. Either she goes for a bolt of lightning at the start or she puts up a shield. DIANA IS TOO FAST FOR BOTH OF THESE SCENARIOS. Everything you say afterwards is useless. "The speed is going to be taken care of by the lightning itself." Please tell me that you realize that makes no sense.

We've already provided you numerous scans of Wonder Woman dealing with opponents far faster than Storm AND reflecting MULTIPLE attacks that travel just as fast as a bolt of lightning. SHE'S NOT GETTING HIT. Scenario 1 isn't working. You are trying to argue this 'locking into the nervous system' strategy, when you yourself admit you don't understand it. EVEN IF we buy that Storm can do this to Diana, Diana will be moving faster than Storm can THINK!! When you show me a scan of Storm locking into someone's nervous system, tracking them and hitting them with a bolt of lightning while they are moving faster than she can see, then I will concede. Until then, you fail.

As for Storm putting up her shield, again I want to see evidence of what it can withstand. A punch from someone of Diana's strength may be all that it takes. IF you can provide me with that, then I want you to explain to me why Diana, who is tactically superior to everyone on that field, is just going to stand their bashing a shield IF her first attempt fails. I also need you to tell me how the bolt of lightning STILL isn't deflected if Storm tries to summon it because as we addressed in scenario 1 DIANA'S REFLEXES ARE TOO FAST. I've already shown you a scan of Diana dealing with Superman's HV, when she wasn't even remotely prepared, so please don't feed be that "she'll be distracted" argument. I never said that Diana just stands there and bashes at Storm's shield.

After you've managed to do all that, then repeat and rinse for She Hulk and LDS. lol

You've got a lot of explaining to do, dont you? 💃 😆

And is Diana bloodlusted? If she is, this thing ends even more quickly.

It seems you are not keeping up with the convo, at this point we were dealing with one scenario, please go back and check out what it was, your just cheerleading through most of this post. Oh and what I have argued was that WW wouldn't take 10/10 nothing more, I am actually not the only person that made that claim besides Stormulti.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
You're scenario isn't plausible. What part of you isn't getting this. Everyone in here (minus lolStormultt) has told you that Diana moves too fast for Storm to lay any of this on here. Of course I'm going to keep mentioning it because you have YET to show me how Storm is able to hit Diana. YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED A SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE.

You are also trying to are also trying to argue two different scenarios at the same time. Either she goes for a bolt of lightning at the start or she puts up a shield. DIANA IS TOO FAST FOR BOTH OF THESE SCENARIOS. Everything you say afterwards is useless. "The speed is going to be taken care of by the lightning itself." Please tell me that you realize that makes no sense.

We've already provided you numerous scans of Wonder Woman dealing with opponents far faster than Storm AND reflecting MULTIPLE attacks that travel just as fast as a bolt of lightning. SHE'S NOT GETTING HIT. Scenario 1 isn't working. You are trying to argue this 'locking into the nervous system' strategy, when you yourself admit you don't understand it. EVEN IF we buy that Storm can do this to Diana, Diana will be moving faster than Storm can THINK!! When you show me a scan of Storm locking into someone's nervous system, tracking them and hitting them with a bolt of lightning while they are moving faster than she can see, then I will concede. Until then, you fail.

As for Storm putting up her shield, again I want to see evidence of what it can withstand. A punch from someone of Diana's strength may be all that it takes. IF you can provide me with that, then I want you to explain to me why Diana, who is tactically superior to everyone on that field, is just going to stand their bashing a shield IF her first attempt fails. I also need you to tell me how the bolt of lightning STILL isn't deflected if Storm tries to summon it because as we addressed in scenario 1 DIANA'S REFLEXES ARE TOO FAST. I've already shown you a scan of Diana dealing with Superman's HV, when she wasn't even remotely prepared, so please don't feed be that "she'll be distracted" argument. I never said that Diana just stands there and bashes at Storm's shield.

After you've managed to do all that, then repeat and rinse for She Hulk and LDS. lol

You've got a lot of explaining to do, dont you? 💃 😆

And is Diana bloodlusted? If she is, this thing ends even more quickly.

Originally posted by fangirl101
More. Read the thread. There really is just a few Insane voices in the thread.

Insanity to question the majesty of Diana.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Yes. before Storm can think to raise a shield, she's already blitzed and dead.

lol you guys seem to both be depending on some idea that thinking "up" (relative to a sheild) is some kind of less than instantaneous process. It isn't.
Diana must both decide to act and then follow up with an action as well, so there are two elements involved, one happens at the speed of light (the act, which is the equivalent of the electromagnetic phenomena ) and the other at what ever speed it happens at. Will Diana "think" faster than Storm independently of her actions? Once again, we are only talking about Storm thinking "up" at the sound of the bell. Can one simple thought be faster than another extremely simple thought? And how could we even gage that? Once again, we are not talking about whether WW thinks faster than Storm in general in some other scenario that requires complex thought, only in this scenario.

Originally posted by resolution
lol you guys seem to both be depending on some idea that thinking "up" (relative to a sheild) is some kind of less than instantaneous process. It isn't.
Diana must both decide to act and then follow up with an action as well, so there are two elements involved, one happens at the speed of light (the act, which is the equivalent of the electromagnetic phenomena ) and the other at what ever speed it happens at. Will Diana "think" faster than Storm independently of her actions? Once again, we are only talking about Storm thinking "up" at the sound of the bell. Can one simple thought be faster than another extremely simple thought? And how could we even gage that? Once again, we are not talking about whether WW thinks faster than Storm in general in some other scenario that requires complex thought, only in this scenario.

Actually Wonder Woman can move Faster than Thought. And She will think faster than Storm will on the Battle field.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Actually Wonder Woman can move Faster than Thought. And She will think faster than Storm will on the Battle field.

The issue is whether or not she can think faster than thought (WW must also think here). It is the elctromagnetic phenomena that is going up against her physical speed.
And once again, we are not talking about these two thinking in some other scenario where complex thought is required, just this one. Storm need only think "up" .

Originally posted by resolution
The issue is whether or not she can think faster than thought (WW must also think here). It is the elctromagnetic phenomena that is going up against her physical speed.
And once again, we are not talking about these two thinking in some other scenario where complex thought is required, just this one. Storm need only think "up" .

You've still yet to address any of the points I've made and you still don't seem to grasp that Storm is dead by the time she thinks "up" or "lightning." Why don't you give this up? Anyone who knows anything about WW or comics in general has already told you how this ends. Now you are just sounding desperate. You continually show your lack of knowledge about the character (news flash, WW thinks as fast as she's moving).

You made a poor thread. Just accept it and move it on.