Gladiator w/Gem of Cytorrak Vs SMP

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Gladiator w/Gem of Cytorrak Vs SMP

Gladiator has Juggernauts gem.

Vs

Current SMP with the solarsuit

Who wins?

Glads. Its kind of unfair to give him that gem.

Would/could the Gem boost his strength?

It seems he'd either be Juggernaut strength with Juggernaut durability (plus Glad's powers), or he'd be Glad's strength with Juggernaut's durability (depending on who you think is stronger).

I know it can power up, but I can't see it multiplying strength.

The gem grants a potion of cyttorak's power in addition to the wielders strength, it's a additivce in sense. A boast like this would compliment a powerset like Glads quite incredibly and although he would certainly be apporaching skyfather level I remain convinced it wouldnt be enough to take SMP....SMP for the solid majority.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
The gem grants a potion of cyttorak's power in addition to the wielders strength, it's a additivce in sense. A boast like this would compliment a powerset like Glads quite incredibly and although he would certainly be apporaching skyfather level I remain convinced it wouldnt be enough to take SMP....SMP for the solid majority.
What?

Current SMP is w/o the Guardian upgrade, and you think he is skyfather?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
The gem grants a potion of cyttorak's power in addition to the wielders strength, it's a additivce in sense. A boast like this would compliment a powerset like Glads quite incredibly and although he would certainly be apporaching skyfather level I remain convinced it wouldnt be enough to take SMP....SMP for the solid majority.
Can you give me a scan?

Anyway, I really can't see Glads losing if that's what it does...

so now glads is alot harder to slow down and stop

plus cant be hurt by physical force anymore and since he can fly he's not gonna be BFR'd, and he cant get tired.

yea glads wins

doesnt the gem also give the wielder a healing factor

Originally posted by jalek moye
so now glads is alot harder to slow down and stop

plus cant be hurt by physical force anymore and since he can fly he's not gonna be BFR'd, and he cant get tired.

yea glads wins

doesnt the gem also give the wielder a healing factor

yes

He'd be essentially immortal.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
The gem grants a potion of cyttorak's power in addition to the wielders strength, it's a additivce in sense. A boast like this would compliment a powerset like Glads quite incredibly and although he would certainly be apporaching skyfather level I remain convinced it wouldnt be enough to take SMP....SMP for the solid majority.
jobbing on Glad and does quickie on SMP?

Glad flying toward SMP with cytorrak momentum knock smp out cold....

Originally posted by Mindset
What?

Current SMP is w/o the Guardian upgrade, and you think he is skyfather?

SMP still has PC Supes level attributes, with or without the amp he is still a imposing figure.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SMP still has PC Supes level attributes, with or without the amp he is still a imposing figure.
Yes, but skyfather, no.

I'd put him on the same level as this Glads, except Glads has the advantage imo.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Can you give me a scan?

Anyway, I really can't see Glads losing if that's what it does...

There isn't really any"Scans", just what's stated about the gem in bio's and handbooks. It's all inferential to be perfectly honest, although it does state that the gem"granst a portion of cytorraks power"it could mean a number of things. I just prefer to think of it as a additive since that seems like the more logical route to take.

Whoever wields the power of Cyttorak can't be killed unless you seperate him from the power or the being your fighting is more powerful than Cyttorak and can simply over-power the enchantment.

Current SMP is capable of neither.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, but skyfather, no.

I'd put him on the same level as this Glads, except Glads has the advantage imo.

I'd say skyfather, maybe not "peak skyfather"but a skyfather character regardless...even if it is on it's lower ranks. Anyhow Glad's would be good with this amp but enough enough to overcome SMP IMO...good effort but he would fall short for the majority.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Whoever wields the power of Cyttorak can't be killed unless you seperate him from the power or the being your fighting is more powerful than Cyttorak and can simply over-power the enchantment.

Current SMP is capable of neither.

I don't really see anything from Glad's that can effect SMP in any serious manner, lesser foes like onslaught have proven the ability to KO juggy and that is good enough for secure a victory IMO.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I'd say skyfather, maybe not "peak skyfather"but a skyfather character regardless...even if it is on it's lower ranks. Anyhow Glad's would be good with this amp but enough enough to overcome SMP IMO...good effort but he would fall short for the majority.
How would Glads fall short?

He can already punch apart planets, now add the strength of the gem that had Juggs at equal strength with WWH.

Glads would also have immortality and a healing factor. Invulnerability to most damage.

I don't even see how SBP is beating him. Only thing he has over Glads is maybe combat speed.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I don't really see anything from Glad's that can effect SMP in any serious manner, lesser foes like onslaught have proven the ability to KO juggy and that is good enough for secure a victory IMO.

SMP > Onslaught lol how scary
lame
Onslaught beating Jugg has nothing to do with SMP O_O

Originally posted by Mindset
How would Glads fall short?

He can already punch apart planets, now add the strength of the gem that had Juggs at equal strength with WWH.

Glads would also have immortality and a healing factor. Invulnerability to most damage.

I don't even see how SBP is beating him. Only thing he has over Glads is maybe combat speed.

Glad's can trash planets within a couple of blows but SMP>>>Superman in all aspects. It's highly that that Gladiator is even comparable to Supes and SMP is essentially supes with his silver age attributes. Glad's has invulnerabtility but it isn't like Juggs hasnt been physically hurt before...Glads feats still havnt convinced me that he can compete with regular Supes let alone SMP.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Glad's can trash planets within a couple of blows but SMP>>>Superman in all aspects. It's highly that that Gladiator is even comparable to Supes and SMP is essentially supes with his silver age attributes. Glad's has invulnerabtility but it isn't like Juggs hasnt been physically hurt before...Glads feats still havnt convinced me that he can compete with regular Supes let alone SMP.

when has juggs been phsyically hurt when fully powered and not attacked by a psionic bein?

SMP could burn Gladernaut down to the skeleton and it wouldn't do any good.