Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Jesus was pretty violent sometimes...
Yeah, there was the whip incident in the temple, and when he was ten he turned some kid into a bird as a punishment, but he at least preached peace. Maybe his own hypocrisy set up his millions of followers for failure as well.
Originally posted by Null ARC Avis
But Jesus can make you burn in eternal hell flame. id rather have my hurt ripped out. Jesus is WAY more badass!
Can he? I think that's more up to God directly.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus was just a man, and nothing more.
Just like Lincoln was only a man or Buddha was only a man or Hitler was only a man. Your phrasing sells short the power an influence of a single person. Someone like Jesus is hard "just a man" in anything but an literal biological sence.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
...Just like Lincoln was only a man or Buddha was only a man or Hitler was only a man. Your phrasing sells short the power an influence of a single person. Someone like Jesus is hard "just a man" in anything but an literal biological sence.
That is true, but I was replying to someone who said "But Jesus can make you burn in eternal hell flame. id rather have my hurt ripped out. Jesus is WAY more badass!". They were speaking as if Jesus was divine, or a super hero.
Originally posted by Null ARC Avis
HOLY SHIT!!! I want that!!!!
Null, maybe you need to pull back a little, try and be less enthusiastic about your "logic and reason". Its great that you believe what you do and want to learn more about it...
However, just because its what makes most sense to you doesn't make it right, and being all evangelical about it doesn't help your credibility with other users...
I'm not trying to attack you or anything but you are comming across as a bit of a "know it all"...and from what I've seen, people aren't really reacting that well to it- and that includes the atheists...
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-GavWhat do you mean? I would be the first to admit i know next to nothing, but who doesn't (Socrates FTW)? But i am passionet on the subject of religion. Read Sam Harris' The End of Faith and you'll see what i mean. Religion is a dangerous thing, and we can't be quiet about it. Not any longer. The only way to defeat religion is to use logic and reason. Tell me, what am i saying that is so ridiculous? Maybe something doesn't make sense to someone because they dont understand it. Or maybe i'm missing something...
Null, maybe you need to pull back a little, try and be less enthusiastic about your "logic and reason". Its great that you believe what you do and want to learn more about it...However, just because its what makes most sense to you doesn't make it right, and being all evangelical about it doesn't help your credibility with other users...
I'm not trying to attack you or anything but you are comming across as a bit of a "know it all"...and from what I've seen, people aren't really reacting that well to it- and that includes the atheists...
Originally posted by Null ARC Avis
What do you mean? I would be the first to admit i know next to nothing, but who doesn't (Socrates FTW)? But i am passionet on the subject of religion. Read Sam Harris' The End of Faith and you'll see what i mean. Religion is a dangerous thing, and we can't be quiet about it. Not any longer. The only way to defeat religion is to use logic and reason. Tell me, what am i saying that is so ridiculous? Maybe something doesn't make sense to someone because they dont understand it. Or maybe i'm missing something...
Anyways, i want that comic!!!
Logic and Reason...is that your religion?
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Logic and Reason...is that your religion?
'A religion is a set of beliefs and practices often organized around supernatural and moral claims, and often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law.'
Source: Wikipedia ( hell yeah it's reliable)
I don't think logic and reason fall in that category.
EDIT- Null has the right idea. Religion is dangerous, especially since it provides a safe atmosphere for fundamentalism. Religion is also happy with the status quo. If we had allowed Religion to dominate over science, logic, skepticism, and reason we would all be huddled around a campfire as opposed to driving cars and flying planes.