Hercules VS Sentry: Armwrestle

Originally posted by Brutacus
Well how will the writters let hulk destory a planet???

They let him take a dump all over common sense and good writing, so why not?

The dude can't even fly.
How would he be possible to move to a other planet???
Jumping from astroid to astroid??? (that might be even possible since there is no real friction in outer space, so he would keep moving)

That doesn't mean he can destroy a planet.

He hold a planet to gether now that's a good feat.
Maybe not a planet busting feat.

WWH is not the one who held a planet together. Can't interchange other versions of hulks feats with this one. WWH is NOT the strongest version of hulk, he's just the one with the biggest jobber aura.

And it's wasn't really a fight where they both used there powers heck sentry has way to many powers, speed, flight you name it.
It was simple and just a slugfest.

So that part where energy was being released and destroying buildings was...what?

You still have to keep in mind that it's just a comic, so they showed hulks strenght by taking sentry on in a slugfest.

Except in showing hulks strength, they jobbed out Sentry something fierce.

They may not have destroyed a lot of buildings, but you just have to except that or stop reading comics.

When not even going all out he's in danger of destroying a planet, but then against hulk and going all out he destroys a few buildings? Sorry, the "comics are comics" excuse doesn't fly, its just straight up horrible writing. Sure, badly written comics aren't uncommon, but you don't try to use them in arguments.

But wenn it only come's down to strenght I guess these two are about the same.
Or atleast they made them the same since not one really won and they both burned out.

In reality, Sentry would own Hulk.

But sure, the version of sentry WWH fought, who forgets to use his speed and is for some reason heavily depowered in almost every way, yeah..hulk beat his ass.

WWH is the same Hulk that held Sakaar together, just stronger.

Originally posted by Mindset
WWH is the same Hulk that held Sakaar together, just stronger.

I was actually thinking of a completely different feat..involving an asteroid larger than the earth..

It still doesn't change the fact that Sentry holding back and fighting Genis..nearly destroys the planet..sentry going all out against hulk..destroys some buildings. I mean they could of said something like Sentry can't go all out so he doesn't destroy the planet..but no.

Just like Sentry is unphased by a punch from Terrax, who is a planet buster, and yet hulk who supposedly just held a planet together, beats him to a bloody pulp?

Sentry ftw.

Originally posted by Surtur
I was actually thinking of a completely different feat..involving an asteroid larger than the earth..

It still doesn't change the fact that Sentry holding back and fighting Genis..nearly destroys the planet..sentry going all out against hulk..destroys some buildings. I mean they could of said something like Sentry can't go all out so he doesn't destroy the planet..but no.

Just like Sentry is unphased by a punch from Terrax, who is a planet buster, and yet hulk who supposedly just held a planet together, beats him to a bloody pulp?

Why is it so hard to believe that hulk in due time or angry enough can't be stronger than sentry just because he hasn't destroyed a planet??

I mean sure at his base strenght hulk is much weaker.
But the more angry he get's the stronger he get's.

And this hulk had a lot of control over that anger or strenght.

And maybe they should have destroyed the planet with all that raw power they where dealing out on each other, but hulk was there to take over the earth or at least punish the people who send him to that other planet and destroyed that planet in his eye's.

They need to make a story so that they sell comics even iff it's a bad story, but iff they let hulk destroy earth with all that raw power the minute he showed up on earth they wouldn't have a WWH series.

And the one who held that planet together was weaker.

Yes he did destroy a asteroid twice the size of earth, that was even his weakest version the grey hulk, but he had some help since he couldn't jump that high and fast.
So not sure iff that would only count as a strenght feat it's at the same time a durability feat since he was shot at the asteroid like a missle.
Iff he wasn't durable enough he would have been a grey spot on the asteroid.

And Sentry should win he's much faster than herc so before herc would even start his hand would allready have hit the table.

Originally posted by Surtur
WWH is not the one who held a planet together. Can't interchange other versions of hulks feats with this one. WWH is NOT the strongest version of hulk, he's just the one with the biggest jobber aura.

Dr. Strange says that Hulk is stronger than he's ever been during World War Hulk. And writer Greg Pak also said that WWH is the strongest Hulk to date.

About Sentry, I hate him too. But what's this about nearly destroying a planet? His battle with Photon was destroying multiple planets, and both were stated as holding back by Captain America. 😉

Why can't the Hulk beat Sentry? Doomsday did it to Superman.
Sentry was in fact using his super speed in the battle against WWH. Badabing explained Sentry vs WWH arc.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=493627&highlight=userid%3A115286

Sentry stopped Terrax axe at the handle mid-swing, The panel show Sentry grabbing to Terrax hands with amp yellow/orange energy blocking both characters hands. Sentry used his exploding sun ability & super strength to overpower Terrax.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/ts-01-016.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/ts-01-017.jpg
I am sure Sentry because of his super speed/strength, can also destroy a planet, but Hulk on the other hand is stronger then Sentry physically, but lack projectile speed to shatter a planet. 😮

Back to the thread. This is just armwrestling, so even without Sentry using his energy ability. He has shown better strength feats against WWH then Herc. SENTRY FTW

Originally posted by vansonbee
Why can't the Hulk beat Sentry? Doomsday did it to Superman.
Sentry was in fact using his super speed in the battle against WWH. Badabing explained Sentry vs WWH arc.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=493627&highlight=userid%3A115286

Sentry stopped Terrax axe at the handle mid-swing, The panel show Sentry grabbing to Terrax hands with amp yellow/orange energy blocking both characters hands. Sentry used his exploding sun ability & super strength to overpower Terrax.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/ts-01-016.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/CapztehLumby/ts-01-017.jpg
I am sure Sentry because of his super speed/strength, can also destroy a planet, but Hulk on the other hand is stronger then Sentry physically, but lack projectile speed to shatter a planet. 😮

Back to the thread. This is just armwrestling, so even without Sentry using his energy ability. He has shown better strength feats against WWH then Herc. SENTRY FTW

Exactly, if we look deeper into the WWHulk arc, Colossus lasted longer than Herc, on top of it all the Hulk was holding back, and wasn't really trying to kill anyone as we all saw when he buried Amadeus Cho, he just knew that Herc could take it so he gave him enough to put him down. All the same Sentry was able to match King Hulk for nearly an entire book until he was eventually overcome by the Hulk's strength.

I need to add that Herc was getting beaten by a less amped Hulk, and Sentry went the distance with King Hulk at a level far beyond the one that he was at when he nearly put Herc into a coma.

Sentry for the easy win.

Originally posted by Stoic
Exactly, if we look deeper into the WWHulk arc, Colossus lasted longer than Herc, on top of it all the Hulk was holding back, and wasn't really trying to kill anyone as we all saw when he buried Amadeus Cho, he just knew that Herc could take it so he gave him enough to put him down. All the same Sentry was able to match King Hulk for nearly an entire book until he was eventually overcome by the Hulk's strength.

I need to add that Herc was getting beaten by a less amped Hulk, and Sentry went the distance with King Hulk at a level far beyond the one that he was at when he nearly put Herc into a coma.

Sentry for the easy win.

Herc wasn't fighting back.
He just took it.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Herc wasn't fighting back.
He just took it.

So are you saying that if he was fighting back that he would have looked better than he did, while he was lying down looking like a bruised prune?

Herc's body is strong, but the Sentry, and King Hulk were on another level. This is why Sentry is stronger than herc.

Yes Herc towed Manhattan, King Hulk shifted a continent, and he was stronger than when he did the shifting when he and Sentry was going at it. if you think about it on that level you come to appreciate just how strong the Sentry really is.

Let's face it if Herc was the most powerful guy in the universe the government and Ironman would have sent him in to stop King hulk and not Bob.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Herc wasn't fighting back.
He just took it.

Sentry would win though.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Good thing Herc didn't fight, he would of got one shot-ed. Herc had trouble with the old incarnation of WWH, Cho did explain Hulk was controlling the battle field making sure everyone still alive, but defeated in a sense.

Yep!

Originally posted by Stoic
So are you saying that if he was fighting back that he would have looked better than he did, while he was lying down looking like a bruised prune?

Herc's body is strong, but the Sentry, and King Hulk were on another level. This is why Sentry is stronger than herc.

Yes Herc towed Manhattan, King Hulk shifted a continent, and he was stronger than when he did the shifting when he and Sentry was going at it. if you think about it on that level you come to appreciate just how strong the Sentry really is.

Let's face it if Herc was the most powerful guy in the universe the government and Ironman would have sent him in to stop King hulk and not Bob.

First of all already said that sentry would win.
You say colossus hold out longer, even tho colossus with others fought back he was not his main attention, wenn he fought hulk alone he got his arms snapt like it was nothing. herc took few punches from the hulk right in to his face.

Even tho herc is weaker than sentry you even think he would respond to the call since he was there to help the hulk in the first place.

Originally posted by Brutacus
First of all already said that sentry would win.
You say colossus hold out longer, even tho colossus with others fought back he was not his main attention, wenn he fought hulk alone he got his arms snapt like it was nothing. herc took few punches from the hulk right in to his face.

Even tho herc is weaker than sentry you even think he would respond to the call since he was there to help the hulk in the first place.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Good thing Herc didn't fight, he would of got one shot-ed.

Oh my god. Seriously? You just said that? Herc was taking multiple shots from WWH without being put down. He swung at Hulk once and ended up knocking Hulk through a building IIRC.

How would he have taken multiple shots without defending himself, yet be one-shotted when in an actual fight with him. Do you know what you're talking about at all?

Originally posted by Stoic
I was just making a point, that if hercules was the most poweful guy in the universe or even in the running he would have been mentioned... he wasn't.

Did I say he was no, just that you pointed out that colossus hold out longer than herc.
While one (colossus) was really fighting him and the other (herc) didn't fight back.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh my god. Seriously? You just said that? Herc was taking multiple shots from WWH without being put down. He swung at Hulk once and ended up knocking Hulk through a building IIRC.

How would he have taken multiple shots without defending himself, yet be one-shotted when in an actual fight with him. Do you know what you're talking about at all?

Bro he never knocked King Hulk through a building... you are speaking of The Incredible Hulk issue 107 right? If so Herc only knocked him down, Sentry was the one that punched him through the building.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh my god. Seriously? You just said that? Herc was taking multiple shots from WWH without being put down. He swung at Hulk once and ended up knocking Hulk through a building IIRC.

How would he have taken multiple shots without defending himself, yet be one-shotted when in an actual fight with him. Do you know what you're talking about at all?

Originally posted by Stoic
Bro he never knocked King Hulk through a building... you are speaking of The Incredible Hulk issue 107 right? If so Herc only knocked him down, Sentry was the one that punched him through the building.

👆 Kay - I only read World War Hulk and its linked issues once. And tried to forget it as soon as possible with lots and lots of alcohol. (Especially the final issue...that artwork in the Sentry/Hulk battle was HORRIBLE!)