Are there any notable non-biblical christians in the 1st century?

Started by Grand-Moff-Gav3 pages

Originally posted by lord xyz
One question still remains that I forgot to include in my first post:

Did any of them follow the Bible?

Well, yes and no.

They followed the teachings of the people of the Bible, like Saint Paul- he sent letters to Christian Communities all across the known world and so teachings were fairly uniform- of course as the religion grew a need for a more concrete scripture became apparent.

However, the did not follow our Biblical Canon of today and instead relied on continuing revelation from the Holy Spirit for their faith.

Thank you for strengthening the Roman Catholic/Eastern Orthodox Cause.

🙂

Originally posted by lord xyz
Not much of a book by God, then.
How did you come to this quick and illogical conclusion?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Well, yes and no.

They followed the teachings of the people of the Bible, like Saint Paul- he sent letters to Christian Communities all across the known world and so teachings were fairly uniform- of course as the religion grew a need for a more concrete scripture became apparent.

However, the did not follow our Biblical Canon of today and instead relied on continuing revelation from the Holy Spirit for their faith.

Thank you for strengthening the Roman Catholic/Eastern Orthodox Cause.

🙂

You mean, provide an argument to use the non-distorted scripture?

I guess I did do that, didn't I?

Originally posted by lord xyz
You mean, provide an argument to use the non-distorted scripture?

I guess I did do that, didn't I?

Scripture is irrelevant. its who wrote it that's important. Anyone can give a command and put it in a nice wee parable.

Originally posted by lord xyz
It does question the origin of the stories.

If Jesus was real, believers of Jesus would've been recorded as far back as the first century, yet, there aren't any.

I've heard that the Bible was wrote at around 1/200 years after as well.

Not necessarily. Recording methods of the day were largely oral, which was how Christianity survived the century or two before it came to be standardized. We also have non-Christian sources that mention the existence of Jesus. Briefly, granted, but they do.

And the Bible wasn't "written." It was pieced together using texts that range from well before Jesus to well after him.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You mean, provide an argument to use the non-distorted scripture?

I guess I did do that, didn't I?

What do you know about the Bible? Honestly.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
We also have non-Christian sources that mention the existence of Jesus. Briefly, granted, but they do.
No we don't.

Originally posted by lord xyz
No we don't.

XYZ, what do you know about the Bible.

Who wrote the NT?
When?
When was the book assembled?
Who assembled it?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
XYZ, what do you know about the Bible.

Who wrote the NT?
When?
When was the book assembled?
Who assembled it?

Who wrote the NT?
Unknown witters posing as disciples, but mostly Paul.

When?
Between 60 to 120 years after the death of Jesus.

When was the book assembled?
325 AD

Who assembled it?
The First Council of Nicaea.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Who wrote the NT?
Unknown witters posing as disciples, but mostly Paul.

When?
Between 60 to 120 years after the death of Jesus.

When was the book assembled?
325 AD

Who assembled it?
The First Council of Nicaea.

Good job, xy.....wait a minute...you are that smelly kid that always sits in the corner and raises his hand for every teacher's question cause he mistakes the annoyed moans of his classmates for affection.

(Also, the author of the Gospel of Luke and Acts (believed to be the same person) wrote most of the NT).

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
XYZ, what do you know about the Bible.

Who wrote the NT?

Mark, Matt, Luke, John and whoever wrote Corinthians etc. I'm guessing the others were collections of stories, scriptures etc.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
When?
Don't know.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
When was the book assembled?
You said the 4th century, so I'll say that.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Who assembled it?
As I recall, it was a group of christian leaders who got together in Rome or wherever and decided what should go in and what shouldn't.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Mark, Matt, Luke, John and whoever wrote Corinthians etc. I'm guessing the others were collections of stories, scriptures etc.

Don't know.

You said the 4th century, so I'll say that.

As I recall, it was a group of christian leaders who got together in Rome or wherever and decided what should go in and what shouldn't.

In short, you don't have a clue do you?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
In short, you don't have a clue do you?
I would say I have a vague idea.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I would say I have a vague idea.

You have an incredibly vague grasp of what the Bible is and how it was made and when all that took place.

You don't even know that Christians were well known in the 1st Century- as shown by Nero's persecution and Tacitus' records of their activities or the fears in Rome that they were cannibals...

However you still think you have the ability to challenge the Bible's legitimacy even though you don't know the facts you would need to know to undermine them?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Mark, Matt, Luke, John and whoever wrote Corinthians etc. I'm guessing the others were collections of stories, scriptures etc.

You've never ever crack open a Bible have you? Corinthians is "Paul's Letter to the Corinthians" would you like to try a guess about the writer?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You've never ever crack open a Bible have you? Corinthians is "Paul's Letter to the Corinthians" would you like to try a guess about the writer?

Are you suggesting that lord xyz should read a bible? 😱

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Are you suggesting that lord xyz should read a bible? 😱

If he wants to have any sort of understanding he should know more than bits of isolated rhetoric.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If he wants to have any sort of understanding he should know more than bits of isolated rhetoric.

That's true, but I think better advice might be; stick to what you know. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That's true, but I think better advice might be; stick to what you know. 😉

The Bible should never have been given to the uneducated masses...